The syndicate suicide disguise kit.
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The syndicate suicide disguise kit.
You've just clacked your target in xenobiology with a revolver.
But oh no! What's this? The AI saw you!
Security are running to your position.
Luckily, you ordered the SSDK!
After a progress bar finishes, you have enough time to chuck your revolver in a disposal bin and wash off the blood.
Security comes rushing in, and you point at the body.
"He was a suicide. Was just extracting blood for slimes!"
Security search you, and let you go. The body is left for you to use for slime blood.
Nobody is none the wiser.
The Syndicate Suicide Disguise Kit!
A small box of essential tools to disguise a corpse as a suicide to any examination.
Make sure to clean up the blood on your jumpsuit!
Costs 3 TC, and changes examine text to suicide, is a one use item that is consumed on use.
Optional: Allows you to pick a suicide and alters the body to make it look like that. Ie: tank suicide, telebaton.
Perfect for keeping suspicion low and being the stealthy traitor hiding in plain sight.
But oh no! What's this? The AI saw you!
Security are running to your position.
Luckily, you ordered the SSDK!
After a progress bar finishes, you have enough time to chuck your revolver in a disposal bin and wash off the blood.
Security comes rushing in, and you point at the body.
"He was a suicide. Was just extracting blood for slimes!"
Security search you, and let you go. The body is left for you to use for slime blood.
Nobody is none the wiser.
The Syndicate Suicide Disguise Kit!
A small box of essential tools to disguise a corpse as a suicide to any examination.
Make sure to clean up the blood on your jumpsuit!
Costs 3 TC, and changes examine text to suicide, is a one use item that is consumed on use.
Optional: Allows you to pick a suicide and alters the body to make it look like that. Ie: tank suicide, telebaton.
Perfect for keeping suspicion low and being the stealthy traitor hiding in plain sight.
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Re: The syndicate suicide disguise kit.
He committed suicide with two shots at the back of his head, nothing to see here.
As for the idea itself, the suicide message is also meta-slang for "i can't be cloned". Unless that changes, this will probably be a too effective cloning prevention strategy since even with decapitation someone might try podcloning.
As for the idea itself, the suicide message is also meta-slang for "i can't be cloned". Unless that changes, this will probably be a too effective cloning prevention strategy since even with decapitation someone might try podcloning.
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Re: The syndicate suicide disguise kit.
Suicidees can be borged.
And I think they actually can be cloned.
Even then, meta breaking traitor items are wonderful, it's why we can print shit from an emagged computer, it forces situations where the meta is challenged.
And I think they actually can be cloned.
Even then, meta breaking traitor items are wonderful, it's why we can print shit from an emagged computer, it forces situations where the meta is challenged.
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Re: The syndicate suicide disguise kit.
When I saw the title I thought it was a kit to let you fake your own death.
(faking your death and swapping identities with your murder-ee would... okay, that's just being a changeling at that point)
(faking your death and swapping identities with your murder-ee would... okay, that's just being a changeling at that point)
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Re: The syndicate suicide disguise kit.
Actual suicide puts a NOCLONE flag on your body, so even if you're present cloning automatically fails to scan. Brains are not affected, so brain transfer or borging can work, but even then suicide effectively means a DNR.
Unlike other stuff that we want to metabreak, like antag items and such, this is meant to be taken as an ooc hint - that person left the game and does not want to come back. Metabreaking that means that people would lose time trying to revive suicides and potentially annoying people who just want to observe with resuscitation pings.
If we moved to a system where suicide did not set NOCLONE and it was instead a ghost pref, with the suicide message instead simply indicating the person suicided voluntarily, this item would be really nice.
Unlike other stuff that we want to metabreak, like antag items and such, this is meant to be taken as an ooc hint - that person left the game and does not want to come back. Metabreaking that means that people would lose time trying to revive suicides and potentially annoying people who just want to observe with resuscitation pings.
If we moved to a system where suicide did not set NOCLONE and it was instead a ghost pref, with the suicide message instead simply indicating the person suicided voluntarily, this item would be really nice.
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Re: The syndicate suicide disguise kit.
As opposed to non-voluntary suicideXDTM wrote:with the suicide message instead simply indicating the person suicided voluntarily
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Re: The syndicate suicide disguise kit.
Couldn't you just make it where it does say suicide but they can actually be cloned?
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Re: The syndicate suicide disguise kit.
Not sure I'm a fan of this
As mentioned before the suicide message is mainly to show "they can't be cloned" (and no, they can't be cloned/defibbed), it feels a bit weird to mess with that
@ above post, you could set that up, I'm sure, but it's a question of "do we want to" and not "is it possible"
As mentioned before the suicide message is mainly to show "they can't be cloned" (and no, they can't be cloned/defibbed), it feels a bit weird to mess with that
@ above post, you could set that up, I'm sure, but it's a question of "do we want to" and not "is it possible"
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Re: The syndicate suicide disguise kit.
at this point while shitty it's an OOC comment that says THIS GUY WANTED TO DIE, DO NOT ARREST PEOPLE INVOLVED AS THEY WEREN'T INVOLVED, AND LEAVE THIS GUY BE AND DONT EVER CLONE/BORG THEM.
Don't want too much confusion if this is changed.
Don't want too much confusion if this is changed.
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Re: The syndicate suicide disguise kit.
On the one hand, it seems like just an easy gib with extra OOC protection. On the other hand, its stupidly easy to gib people anyway so meh.
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Re: The syndicate suicide disguise kit.
The moment you described that scenario secfags have updated their metagame to arrest everybody on the scene just in case.
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Re: The syndicate suicide disguise kit.
not a fan, for the same reason i dislike giving traitors the ability to send centcomm messages. metabreaking items can be good, but certain messages (for example: like the suicide line, braindead line, centcomm messages) that are intended to give some hint of OOC knowledge (following the previous examples: this person bowed out and doesn't want to play/isn't clonable, this person is disconnected, the admins want you to know this) don't need to be metabroken.
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Re: The syndicate suicide disguise kit.
yeah the intended part is the key word
while metagaming can be obnoxious, things like suicide/braindead are specifically created because it's hard to otherwise address OOC concepts IC
while metagaming can be obnoxious, things like suicide/braindead are specifically created because it's hard to otherwise address OOC concepts IC
Limey wrote:its too late.
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Re: The syndicate suicide disguise kit.
This idea can go in the garbage can then
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