/tg/Station 13

The Ninja shouldn't be able to invisibly teleport behind someone and gib them in a split second before they can move or do anything, it's incredibly broken and in bad spirit.

Yes, I'm mad, because I had an antag round of mine fucked over by an admin spawned ninja who ghosted in behind me and removed me from the round without any chance of escaping at all.

That is all.

Ninja's been quite the hot topic.

Here are two other recent threads on the Space Ninja.

Can we make Space Ninja less stupidly broken? Please?
Ninja Improvement Ideas

Ah! Missed those!

Please disregard.

Once the feature freeze is over, I'm working on something to address this.

Kwisatz wrote:an admin spawned ninja who ghosted in behind me and removed me from the round without any chance of escaping at all.

admins rarely spawn ninjas, are you sure

I thought ninjas were admin spawn only?

Kwisatz wrote:I thought ninjas were admin spawn only?

Noooooo

Almost all ninjas are random events.

They're a random event that happens pretty rarely, and it's even more rare for it to be enjoyable. Most ninjas that know the mechanics use their visor to antag hunt and "accidentally" gib the AI.

Ninjas waste less power by throwing a dart at someone and eswording them to death instead of using cloak to go around them. That's a fundementally flawed system. Ninja is supposed to be super hardmode, but not hard enough that it makes you not want to even do your objectives. Ninja should also be incredibly more stealth-capable, telefragging should be outright removed and the sword should be nerfed. Darts, the less powerful and more spammable magic missile, will likely be nerfed as well.

Whoever thought 70 brute esword that acted like an emag and could slice tables in half was a totally rad idea needs to be strung up already.

That is pretty rad. It's just awful in a video game.

It would be fantastic for a single player game, but this ain't one.

Stop asking about everything being nerfed. Thank you.

These discussions aren't getting very far. What's needed is for someone to code the changes, tell everyone what they are, get the instant thumbs-up they will probably get, and implement them.