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They're all stupid memes and fuck up combat.

>try to hit the dual e-sworer with a desperate disarm
>click the engraving
>"hey fam mind standing stock still for a moment while I load up the TGUI for this engraving and make it so that it's your active window and you have to spend another moment to click back so you can start moving again?"
>didn't have time to finish all that because in that split-second he's de-legged you and dragged you to the crematorium and permanently removed you from the round



Nah it's a great feature perfectly balanced I'm not even slightly mad that this shit has gotten me fucked more times than a fifty cent hooker in hell's kitchen the day a US Navy ship's shoreleave starts

or just make it an alt-click to open

>Managing to get your dumb asses dunked by floortext

Lmaoing at your life

I dont think they really matter that much for combat, they just look ugly as sin and clutter the station up while adding nothing of value

Wyzack wrote:I dont think they really matter that much for combat, they just look ugly as sin and clutter the station up while adding nothing of value

This, it's an eyesore on par of clown scribbles everywhere except the station starts with them.

a janitor can run around and remove all of these on a map

I thought you needed another soapstone to remove them

The janitor starts with an empty soapstone in their closet that they can use to destroy engravings permanently.

They cancel your jaunt as a Nightmare and take a silly number of hits to break considering they are floor scribbles

Kor wrote:They cancel your jaunt as a Nightmare

thats very clearly a bug

and take a silly number of hits to break considering they are floor scribbles

this was added intentionally because you're supposed to have the janitor clean them up

I'm going to be honest I was a little bored adminning during a quiet round once so I went around and deleted a tonne of them around the station because so many of them are stupid.

Rustledjimm wrote:I'm going to be honest I was a little bored adminning during a quiet round once so I went around and deleted a tonne of them around the station because so many of them are stupid.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Rustledjimm wrote:I'm going to be honest I was a little bored adminning during a quiet round once so I went around and deleted a tonne of them around the station because so many of them are stupid.

Why didn't you mass delete them

Armhulen wrote:

Rustledjimm wrote:I'm going to be honest I was a little bored adminning during a quiet round once so I went around and deleted a tonne of them around the station because so many of them are stupid.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

i thought i had a lot more problems with this than i did but i forgot janitors can do this at almost the same pace

Anonmare wrote:

Rustledjimm wrote:I'm going to be honest I was a little bored adminning during a quiet round once so I went around and deleted a tonne of them around the station because so many of them are stupid.

Why didn't you mass delete them

Some of them were funny and so kept, especially if they had a lot of upboats.

But going to be honest so many of them are stupid and they are such an eyesore. I found 10 within the Bridge alone. Why the fuck should that many be allowed.

do they not delete if they are downvoted enough? that seems like a no brainer way to limit shit ones.

I'd like to see them removed. They're 99% shit memes they do in fact mess up combat.

Couldn't you just limit the amount to weed out the shitty ines and keep the more beloved? Or, you know, to make the oldest get erased upon making a new one, so we can cycle fresh ones every now and again/feel more angry at losing a good one to a shitty one and lynch the faggot responsible?

Maybe they could last for x rounds + the number of upvotes they have, so shitty ones would expire rapidly and good ones would stay longer (but not forever)

As for the combat/accidental clicking issue, make it such that the interface only appears on examination, and clicking it directly shows the written message. If you are bothered by the number of messages on a map, use the solution provided in-game: Pester the janitor for his soapstone.

Dgl convinced me to give him a sdql query to wipe engravings across everything.

Changing it to examination or alt clicking is reasonable imo.

Zarniwoop wrote:Changing it to examination or alt clicking is reasonable imo.

So is removing them.

Sounds like someone needs to git gud

memes aside, just give the curator less charges for the stone

why do they even get three?

How about making them be forced to be atleast a paragraph long, and make them look like a regular tile just engraved DF-style, like a square "spiral" thingy that gives the message when you altclick it.

Changing how they are clicked does not change the fact that they are ugly as hell visual clutter that serves very little purpose beyond dumb memes

EDIT: Unless a toggle is added so that they can be hidden from view on a per-player basis, in which case i dont give a shit I just dont want to have to see signs plastered all over the floor everywhere

https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/34826 I made it require exaniming it. I don't think I'd get away with a full removal but this should make it less painful at least.

itt people who can't let a little RP get in the way of their powergame clicking on people until they fall horizontal

I like engravings but misclicking on them being basically a stun until you close/click off the window is pretty unfortunate so I'm glad that's fixed. However, now it's impossible to read the engraving at all without opening the window where previously one could examine them to read them offhand. Here's a possibility: get rid of the window entirely and move the up/downvote buttons and the admin info to the chat window similar to sechuds.

One time I found a sneaky engraving hidden underneath a drink dispenser in the bar and it got me wondering who left it there and why
I like engravings they are cool

oranges wrote:itt people who can't let a little RP get in the way of their powergame clicking on people until they fall horizontal

please dont imply engravings are roleplay at all.

Nothing like that FUCK BLACKS engraving outside the arrivals shuttle for new players to experience huh

How the fuck is magical nonsensical shitposts from past rounds RP at all? It seems about as OOC as it gets