/tg/Station 13

There are only so many ways you can hide and be stealthy in this game, or any top down game for that matter. I have no idea how much this should cost but some ideas for functions I have are things like

Hiding under tables
Being invisible to people who are not facing you (toggleable)
Getting the skittish locker quickhide if you don't have it already but without the message of you diving inside
Being invisible to cameras if you stand under them
Taking things out of other people's pockets is twice as fast and has no alerts, maybe even let them see what's in the pockets

Feel free to suggest other stuff or tell me how dumb my ideas are.

Resting in shadow reduces your alpha based on darkness
You can rest and unrest instantly

The funny thing is that all of these would make you even more obvious as a traitor and wouldn't save you from the terror of a wanted level.

ShadowDimentio wrote:The funny thing is that all of these would make you even more obvious as a traitor and wouldn't save you from the terror of a wanted level.

We already have items that let you hide from wanted levels. Chameleon kits and the forged ID let you blend into the crowd, this is more of for ambushing, juking, evasion, etc.

Not showing action messages.

I think that most of these ideas should be able to be achieved without items, so anyone could potentially do these things. Inconsistencies make it difficult to keep things straight as a veteran player. I think for example hiding underneath a table would have some recovery time anyway, so it practically balances itself.

There should be ques or ways to counterplay of these stealth mechanics. Flashlights, for example, should reveal people who are stealthed (within the range of the flashlight).

Could make it a toggle, so you can choose to be stealthy and conspicuous on command

NanookoftheNorth wrote:Flashlights, for example, should reveal people who are stealthed (within the range of the flashlight).

*puts flashlights in pockets*
*puts flashlight in suit storage*
*puts flashlight on belt*
*wields seclites in hands*
*turns them all on*
pssh nothin personnel kid

Anonmare wrote:Could make it a toggle, so you can choose to be stealthy and conspicuous on command

Ironically not acting stealthy is a very effective form of stealth so I agree

Invisibility is a fat no

PKPenguin321 wrote:Invisibility is a fat no

I think invisibility in darkness is fair what's unfair about that

Armhulen wrote:

PKPenguin321 wrote:Invisibility is a fat no

I think invisibility in darkness is fair what's unfair about that

Nothing because that's completely useless you already can't see people if they're in the dark but

SpaceInaba wrote:Being invisible to people who are not facing you (toggleable)

no o o o

So sleeping carp but with stealth instead? Sounds pretty neat.

PKPenguin321 wrote:Invisibility is a fat no

notice how I never said straight up invisibility I said invisibility in certain contexts

SpaceInaba wrote:

PKPenguin321 wrote:Invisibility is a fat no

notice how I never said straight up invisibility I said invisibility in certain contexts

still no

also just turn around you dingdong if you spot somebody popping in out of nowhere you've just outed a traitor

PKPenguin321 wrote:

Armhulen wrote:

PKPenguin321 wrote:Invisibility is a fat no

I think invisibility in darkness is fair what's unfair about that

Nothing because that's completely useless you already can't see people if they're in the dark but

SpaceInaba wrote:Being invisible to people who are not facing you (toggleable)

no o o o

It blocks any form of night vision, including passive.

SpaceInaba wrote:also just turn around you dingdong if you spot somebody popping in out of nowhere you've just outed a traitor

Yeah just be aware of the person behind you who you cant see and therefore cant be aware of lol

PKPenguin321 wrote:

SpaceInaba wrote:also just turn around you dingdong if you spot somebody popping in out of nowhere you've just outed a traitor

Yeah just be aware of the person behind you who you cant see and therefore cant be aware of lol

it's no worse than people pulling out an ebow and shooting you before you react

*cloaks behind u*
*stuns u*
*cant turn around because ur stunned*
*die to somebody you cant even see*
even if you have a chance of being able to see them when they walk in, the fact that this even has a chance of happening at all is complete bullshit and should never happen
s t o p trying to readd cloakers
they are not fun

What if it's just invisibility while standing still in certain light levels, aka literally the thing you can get from genetics but weaker?

how about invisibility only while walking, ends when making physical contact with anyone or firing weapons/throwing shit

oh wait, that's pretty much cham projector, isn't it

SpaceInaba wrote:There are only so many ways you can hide and be stealthy in this game, or any top down game for that matter. I have no idea how much this should cost but some ideas for functions I have are things like

Hiding under tables
Being invisible to people who are not facing you (toggleable)
Getting the skittish locker quickhide if you don't have it already but without the message of you diving inside
Being invisible to cameras if you stand under them
Taking things out of other people's pockets is twice as fast and has no alerts, maybe even let them see what's in the pockets

Feel free to suggest other stuff or tell me how dumb my ideas are.

hell no.

until we remove stuns any kind of invisibility or near invisibility or anything that makes you unable to be clicked on and still lets you use items or attack is just dumb as fuck.

kevinz000 wrote:until we remove stuns any kind of invisibility or near invisibility or anything that makes you unable to be clicked on and still lets you use items or attack is just dumb as fuck.

time to wait for your rework

>Kevinz code
>Stuns are removed
>But an unpatched bug causes disarms to be no_click_delay harm punches

For the stripping thing, taking from pockets already has no message unless they move, maybe make it like vg's pickpocket gloves where it puts stripped stuff in your hands and no messages for nonpocket things unless you move

kevinz000 wrote:until we remove stuns any kind of invisibility or near invisibility or anything that makes you unable to be clicked on and still lets you use items or attack is just dumb as fuck.

You could be shot, maybe have that break invis for a while