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Karma and special races

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:40 am
by starmute
Here's a suggestion (just an idea, please no bully over this). I've noticed that some players are better at role playing or creating fun events. On another SS13 port (colonial marines) special roles are given (and taken away) based on past performance and the ability to follow special rules. For example I believe that drones were simply too hard for some people to grasp, however some other people could play them correctly.

So to allow a player to play a drone:
Allow players to write that they understand the rules of a drone and what drones are supposed to do ect, get it approved by a admin after the player has played for a long period of time with no notes. As a side benefit it would be the "carrot" for players to act nicely in game (whereas bans have always been the stick)


Lots of things could be added like this, and we could possibly expand our side antagonists, joke roles and fun roles a little more if we have people who understand the rules more seriously. We can test gamemodes with players who apply to do so on the forums and/or discord.

Just a thought.

Re: Karma and special races

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:25 pm
by Cobby
Getting roles based on how nice you are to the admins is probably a bit too much. As much as I hate it I’d rather blacklist people than whitelist

Re: Karma and special races

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:41 pm
by DemonFiren
>karma
we redditstation, after all

Re: Karma and special races

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:59 pm
by PKPenguin321
Pretty sure making admins peer review a hundred essays a day just so you can play drone isn't how karma works on other servers

Re: Karma and special races

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:48 pm
by NanookoftheNorth
I think that it's an interesting idea to restrict who plays drones to players who have a long play record with no major offenses. I think making one in favor of the admins is asking for people to go power hungry.

Re: Karma and special races

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:30 pm
by John_Oxford
PKPenguin321 wrote:Pretty sure making admins peer review a hundred essays a day just so you can play drone isn't how karma works on other servers
even more reason to ac me

Re: Karma and special races

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:19 pm
by Alipheese
So an application process? Thats not tg. Dumb idea.

Re: Karma and special races

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:34 pm
by Saegrimr
It's almost like my method of extremely heavy handed bans for shitter drones was working.

Re: Karma and special races

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:35 pm
by mysteryman sideburns
karma was a gay idea in 2010 and its a gay idea now

Re: Karma and special races

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:36 pm
by mysteryman sideburns
that being said add karma back in and have it do nothing except let me look at my -80 karma score

Re: Karma and special races

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:54 pm
by DemonFiren
Saegrimr wrote:It's almost like my method of extremely heavy handed bans for shitter drones was working.
why didn't you choose an heir before fucking off

Re: Karma and special races

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:57 am
by starmute
PKPenguin321 wrote:Pretty sure making admins peer review a hundred essays a day just so you can play drone isn't how karma works on other servers
To be fair I was half asleep when I made this. I just meant that a player should be whitelisted and vouched for by multiple admins before getting the fun stuff. Dunno though.

Re: Karma and special races

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:18 am
by BeeSting12
as an admin i can barely read the two paragraph OP let alone a bunch of essays begging to be allowd to play some role

Re: Karma and special races

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:53 am
by Doctor Pork
Saegrimr wrote:It's almost like my method of extremely heavy handed bans for shitter drones was working.
return to us saeg restore balance to the server

Re: Karma and special races

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:50 am
by Dr_bee
The fact all methods of drone production besides the derelict was turned off should tell if a role requires admins to pay attention to it they would rather it not exist.

I am still a tad salty about drone production being turned off.

Re: Karma and special races

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:24 am
by Saegrimr
Honestly I am too, was nice to drone around if you got dunked early in the round and spaced. Go off and build a fucking smoking lounge in maint and watch the assistants slowly congregate.

Re: Karma and special races

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:53 am
by starmute
BeeSting12 wrote:as an admin i can barely read the two paragraph OP let alone a bunch of essays begging to be allowd to play some role
To be fair, we both know being a admin is slightly masochistic. With great power comes..... ......everyone expecting you to be some sort of super human. Then again, this is the future you chose.

Re: Karma and special races

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:34 am
by EagleWiz
Drones were great, and removing them because a few idiots cant grasp obvious rules was stupid. Gate them behind time played like AI or Borg, apply a month ban immediately on suspicious drone behavior, and a year drone-ban or something if they do it again, you'd think that would weed out the people being bad drones pretty quickly.

Re: Karma and special races

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:24 am
by DemonFiren
EagleWiz wrote:Drones were great, and removing them because a few idiots cant grasp obvious rules was stupid. Gate them behind time played like AI or Borg, apply a month ban immediately on suspicious drone behavior, and a year drone-ban or something if they do it again, you'd think that would weed out the people being bad drones pretty quickly.
this tbh fam
like seriously it's not like permabans are permanent in any way

Re: Karma and special races

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:12 am
by Ayy Lemoh
CosmicScientist wrote:There was no drone logging and the drone laws were peculiar.
yeah, if i was admin and someone said 'hey guys drones are logged now for EVERYTHING' then I would spawn drones. Until then, I am never spawning a fucking drone unless it's about free drones.

Re: Karma and special races

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:49 am
by Shadowflame909
Honestly there were 89 dislikes on that pr, if I remember correctly and drones only got added because of a 1-2 headmin split. it was dumb

Re: Karma and special races

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:37 pm
by Anonmare
Drone laws were literally an IC way of saying:- Don't use your second life to fuck over someone else. I thought we were pretty clear that we would not accept any attempt to rulelawyer?

We could always make drones more like /vg/'s MoMMIs (Has hands but no inventory space besides their inbuilt on, remote interaction, need to recharge at chargers, can talk on binary but still obligated to not interfere, vulnerable to flashes etc.) Not a fan of being able to be emagged or them needing brains, though, that is what we have posibrains for.

Re: Karma and special races

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:24 pm
by Dr_bee
Anonmare wrote:Drone laws were literally an IC way of saying:- Don't use your second life to fuck over someone else. I thought we were pretty clear that we would not accept any attempt to rulelawyer?

We could always make drones more like /vg/'s MoMMIs (Has hands but no inventory space besides their inbuilt on, remote interaction, need to recharge at chargers, can talk on binary but still obligated to not interfere, vulnerable to flashes etc.) Not a fan of being able to be emagged or them needing brains, though, that is what we have posibrains for.
Pacifism might be a good thing to add to drones as well. as it did not exist when drones were added.