Limited Loadout System

[Aeri]

Okay, here's the pitch.


I play an engineer most rounds,


My go-to round start loadout is as follows

- Glasses: Engineering Scanner Goggles on my face, typically swapped out with Sechuds if I can nab em later

- Helmet: Nothing, Fuck that stupid hardhat, if it comes up and I need to go outside I'll get a hardsuit and use its built in helmet which means I have to ditch it anyways

- Tie: Would be nice, but they're rare enough that I'm unlikely to get one

- Mask: I typically sport a breath mask for when the powder keg we call a station goes up

- Earpiece: My headset, duh

-I_Clothing: Engineer Hazard jumpsuit (The orangier copy of the normal one)

-O_Clothing: Empty, but Engineers tend to start near enough to a hardsuit if they're planning on going for a walk outside

Just to name a few.

ID inside my PDA, obviously, Why does even it start outside my PDA?

Geiger counter in my pocket, the other free for whatever I need it for later

Empty the emergency oxygen box, keep the pen and spare oxygen, ditch the breath mask since I already have one



The problem here is that any given round it's annoying to have to waste a bunch of time getting all this shit that is freely available from the vending machine I spawn two feet away from. I realize not ALL of it should be in my inventory, that'd be too powerful, but I do wind up with a ton of useless fucking garbage I have no use for. So I'm proposing that you can choose what you spawn with within reason. The staff types could define reason themselves, but generally things that you would expect a job to be able to get within minutes of starting a shift ANYWAY.


This is a low level not-super-important idea, but it is annoying to have to toss a jumpsuit, grab the stuff I actually want to carry, and then get on with my life.

[RaveRadbury]

Moving around the station to pick up your gear is a part of player movement, to give players mostly/exactly what they want cuts out a lot of roundstart motion. While it may be tedious, it's a part of the stupid ant farm life that is shift start.

[annoyinggreencatgirl]

Moving around the station to pick up your gear is a part of player movement, to give players mostly/exactly what they want cuts out a lot of roundstart motion. While it may be tedious, it's a part of the stupid ant farm life that is shift start.

Most other servers have loadout systems in place, especially true for cosmetic and marginally useful items, and don't seem to be suffering for it.
What makes TG different, and why is players having to fritter away a couple minutes scrambling around to department lockers and the dorms an interesting gameplay mechanic?

I actually made a similar argument about why hygiene was good and should have been kept in (we have to go to the dorms once or twice a shift to do something simulation-y like shower, almost like we're, you know, inhabiting a space station together) but people called me a dummy.

[EOBGames]

I feel like this makes sense for items that are purely cosmetic- good examples include the hazard jumpsuit, or a sec beret. However, I'd say any job critical items (mesons, sechuds, that sort of stuff) should remain the way they are- that way, you're still getting suited up for doing your job, but you skip the unnecessary step of getting cosmetic clothing.

[Mickyan]

https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/41835

[Aeri]

I feel like this makes sense for items that are purely cosmetic- good examples include the hazard jumpsuit, or a sec beret. However, I'd say any job critical items (mesons, sechuds, that sort of stuff) should remain the way they are- that way, you're still getting suited up for doing your job, but you skip the unnecessary step of getting cosmetic clothing.

I agree, which is why I said "I realize not ALL of it should be in my inventory, that'd be too powerful"

[oranges]

yeah probably wouldn't sign off on this.

I try to cleave as much as possible to the new round, new you deal.

[Super Aggro Crag]

if people arent going to shove each other over insuls i'll poop my damn pants

[Tarchonvaagh]

Moving around the station to pick up your gear is a part of player movement, to give players mostly/exactly what they want cuts out a lot of roundstart motion. While it may be tedious, it's a part of the stupid ant farm life that is shift start.

Most other servers have loadout systems in place, especially true for cosmetic and marginally useful items, and don't seem to be suffering for it.
What makes TG different, and why is players having to fritter away a couple minutes scrambling around to department lockers and the dorms an interesting gameplay mechanic?

I actually made a similar argument about why hygiene was good and should have been kept in (we have to go to the dorms once or twice a shift to do something simulation-y like shower, almost like we're, you know, inhabiting a space station together) but people called me a dummy.

Why was it removed again

[Aeri]

yeah probably wouldn't sign off on this.

I try to cleave as much as possible to the new round, new you deal.

Just saying, I DO typically grab the same shit anyways.

[cacogen]

I've wanted the ID to start in the PDA but I daren't make a PR even for that. Pens used to start in your pocket before a brave soul decided to change it to start in the PDA. It used to be every round the first thing you'd do was put your pen and ID in your PDA. Now it's just the latter. Why? Why that every round? Someone will go "well new players won't know where it is!" but a) who cares (i cobbled together wayfinding before i knew all the maps, when only meta got significant playtime) and b) it could be a preference that defaults off so people can't use this excuse to favour the status quo over a triviality. My point is you'll have to fight a bunch of idiots to try to get it so you can start with the shit you always get roundstart in a given job that starts right there anyway. And people will accuse you of wanting to start with stuff that gives you an unfair advantage, like an RCD as an engineer. Which obviously isn't the goal. It's to reduce tedium and carpal tunnel.

[XivilaiAnaxes]

yeah probably wouldn't sign off on this.

I try to cleave as much as possible to the new round, new you deal.

You mean like how you get to select your bag in character creation instead of hunting down an elusive leather bag?