Announcement on lavaland and off station content.

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Announcement on lavaland and off station content.

Postby oranges » Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:46 pm #545872

Okay so this has been something spinning around in my head for a while.

Basically, I think we're in a situation where people are spending a lot of time focusing on stuff that isn't on the station and doesn't interact with our core gameplay. We have lost a lot of focus, and it's hampering our momentum in terms of actually changing and improving things about the station, where most of the playerbase spends most of their time.

So as such, I am asking all maintainers to deny things that are not laser focused on the station and crew.

We will not carry code or content outside of the station unless it's burden is very small and minimal, that means lavaland ruins, space ruins and away missions.

You will notice I have already killed off lavaland dwarves and icemoon PR's, both are endemic of the focus on stuff that is outside the station.

Note: This does not mean these ideas are dead forever or the content they have is not useable.

space has already expressed interest in taking a station and putting it on the icemoon. This is totally acceptable, because the content is now focused in on the the station and the crew and I think we are past overdue such an idea.

Mixing the content in with the station makes carrying all the sprites and code worth it, because it's much more approachable.

anyway, that's it, feel free to complain here I guess, please don’t' be rude.



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Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.

Postby Shadowflame909 » Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:25 pm #545878

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Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.

Postby Flatulent » Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:03 pm #545903

does that mean miner is now a dead job that will never(read-in the near future) get updated
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Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.

Postby annoyinggreencatgirl » Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:40 am #545927

oranges wrote:So as such, I am asking all maintainers to deny things that are not laser focused on the station and crew.

We will not carry code or content outside of the station unless it's burden is very small and minimal, that means lavaland ruins, space ruins and away missions.
Does this apply only or mostly to new things going forward, or does this mean some existing content might be getting the axe? Things like Charlie station, ashlwalkers/free golems/seed vault, lone comms agent.

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Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.

Postby oranges » Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:50 am #545930

So as such, I am asking all maintainers to deny things that are not laser focused on the station and crew.

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Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.

Postby JusticeGoat » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:50 am #545935

People work on these sides projects because it interests them, I'm not sure if this will push anything new station side from people who would rather work on expanding exploration content rather just reduce getting anything from certain individuals. While i respect that you want to have more done to make the core experience improved, forcing anyone who does not have anything to add or have no interest to direct their attention to one part of the game will not produce spectacular results.

It was a major letdown to see this myself after admittedly working on my first bit of content for the game for a long few months thus why i am complaining, like any of this will mean anything in the end except be a way to vent my frustrations.

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Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.

Postby annoyinggreencatgirl » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:57 am #545936

oranges wrote:
So as such, I am asking all maintainers to deny things that are not laser focused on the station and crew.
OK.
I guess my question was does "So as such, I am asking all maintainers to deny things that are not laser focused on the station and crew." go hand-in-hand with asking maintainers to APPROVE PRs that remove existing things deemed not focused enough on the crew experience.

I'm not trying to stir the pot or even voice a complaint, I was just looking for clarification on what might be expected from this.

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Postby SpaceManiac » Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:38 am #545941

annoyinggreencatgirl wrote:I guess my question was does "So as such, I am asking all maintainers to deny things that are not laser focused on the station and crew." go hand-in-hand with asking maintainers to APPROVE PRs that remove existing things deemed not focused enough on the crew experience.

I am sure that if that was meant then it would have been said.

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Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.

Postby nianjiilical » Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:18 am #546128

imo you should at least approve the dwarf guy's stuff as-is since he seemingly finished most of it before this freeze went into effect
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Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.

Postby Armhulen » Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:35 am #546130

nianjiilical wrote:imo you should at least approve the dwarf guy's stuff as-is since he seemingly finished most of it before this freeze went into effect

his pr needs a lot of work right now just FYI
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Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.

Postby wesoda25 » Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:57 am #546133

nianjiilical wrote:imo you should at least approve the dwarf guy's stuff as-is since he seemingly finished most of it before this freeze went into effect

this but for ice moon
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Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.

Postby Armhulen » Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:00 am #546135

wesoda25 wrote:
nianjiilical wrote:imo you should at least approve the dwarf guy's stuff as-is since he seemingly finished most of it before this freeze went into effect

this but for ice moon

the madman is listening to oranges and now moving the entire station to icemoon

lets see how this shakes up
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Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.

Postby NoxVS » Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:02 am #546146

rather than just leave things in a state of being unable to be touched, all off station content should just be axed

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Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.

Postby CDranzer » Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:58 am #546158

So do we know where we are going or is it just going to be a blanket ban on offstation stuff on the hopes that somehow we'll get good content
Like I don't even disagree but this seems kind of aimless

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Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.

Postby confused rock » Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:30 am #546167

NoxVS wrote:rather than just leave things in a state of being unable to be touched, all off station content should just be axed
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Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.

Postby nianjiilical » Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:26 pm #546222

confused rock wrote:
NoxVS wrote:rather than just leave things in a state of being unable to be touched, all off station content should just be axed


delete lavaland, put a bunch of runescape mining rocks on the station that give infinite mats when hit with a pickaxe

make miners have to level up mining to hit the higher tier ores
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Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.

Postby oranges » Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:40 pm #546251

I like how you guys think

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Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.

Postby CDranzer » Fri Feb 28, 2020 5:24 pm #546323

Wasn't there that one station that was literally partially built into an asteroid? Maybe all stations need to be like that, just embed them in resource rich asteroids and massively rework the mining game

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Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.

Postby Skillywatt » Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:08 pm #546586

Lavaland is only used by power gamers looking for gamer gear, a place to feel like you “won”when you escape there after nuke ops get the disk, and gulag.

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Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.

Postby Kel-the-Oblivious » Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:34 pm #546816

Skillywatt wrote:Lavaland is only used by power gamers looking for gamer gear, a place to feel like you “won”when you escape there after nuke ops get the disk, and gulag.

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Or remove the power gamer gear. Kinda feels like throwing the baby out with the bath water to just cut it all.
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Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.

Postby Shadowflame909 » Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:35 pm #546817

every department has gamer gear bro

Just buff yours so everyone can have equally op fun.

antags start off with gamer gear, thus the power houses of each department ending up with BETTER gamer gear, is just progress.

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