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Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 5:21 pm
by panvxv
First of all I think I need to add that SS13 has gore, cannibalism, beheading, exploding bodies, cutting limbs, sawing bodies, head, eating organs, crashing people with doors and much more.
Thats for people that thinks my proposals don't fit the SS13. But still I am writing all in NSFW.
NSFW:
Now into ideas:
Surgeries we have now are boring and for game like this poor looking. My idea is to add surgeries that not only gruesome but also draw from memes. Some of those have to be research. Let's go to examples:

Stitching lips together- simple and effective, you can do it everywhere if person is resting but if you are mime you can do it even to people that are standing and you are doing it faster. Slaps drapes and use hemostat and then cables or pipe cleaners.

Skin ripping- thats where the fun begins: you can cut off skin from any limb and doing so you gain experience in this surgery. First time you will hurt person and he will bleed but doing it more and more will cause surgery to be almost painless and not a single drop of blood will spill from body. Person with no skin will receive more damage and will bleed more and walking will be nightmare but he will after living like that be able to resist pain more- more max health and more stamina pool.
Skin can be put attach to person with surgery and person that got benefits from it will keep it.

Human centipede- do I need to say more? Attach person to another person(most likely moths) and make biggest (moth)centipede in the entire galaxy. Comes with achievement for being part of it and for attaching people. Be best in leaderboard.
As with skin ripping this to comes with benefits for both sides. Doc with get better- person in front when eating will better split nutrients to others. Getting better with surgery gives you option to modify existing subjects.
Now for other side, I mean benefits for centipede- you all will be resting and you can't get up but you will get faster and speed of gaining experience depends on lenght of centipede. If someone dies when attach to other everyone will move slower. Well the person on front is "driver" others can attach tho and guns as super effective as all of them are resting. To do such surgery drape groin of one person and mouth of other person. And as before you keep benefits so faster moving while on ground.
Those are some of my ideas and what I want more is Med-R&D cooperation with those so do you remember notes from dissection? Welp, something like this but those unlock nodes in research tree.

Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 6:23 pm
by Omega_DarkPotato
ew what the fuck I don't want people trying to get into med to act out their torture porn fetishes

Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 6:26 pm
by Armhulen
The first one seems pretty good though kinda niche, the second one just seems pointless and needlessly hard to code for what you're getting, the third one is too far.

Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 6:43 pm
by panvxv
When I look at med I see nice place where doctors are here just to fix you. I have no bad thoughts when going there and that what I want to change. Even kitchen is more scary than med.
Acting as psycho doc has no place there either. Only thing you can do is massive lobotomy to change your patient. I want doctors like in movies that can refers to their creations as their own "childs". Add some kind of horror to this place.
After all this is MED!

Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 1:00 am
by PKPenguin321
human centipede wouldnt even work because spacemen dont poop (anymore). the toilets are decorative

Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 2:04 am
by RaveRadbury
The guy with the I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream avatar is really delivering on body horror here.

Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 4:17 am
by cacogen
PKPenguin321 wrote:human centipede wouldnt even work because spacemen dont poop (anymore). the toilets are decorative
I've often thought toilets should be usable. It wouldn't be hard to do it in a tasteful way.

Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 4:45 am
by bastardblaster
cacogen wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:human centipede wouldnt even work because spacemen dont poop (anymore). the toilets are decorative
I've often thought toilets should be usable. It wouldn't be hard to do it in a tasteful way.
you underestimate the degeneracy of this playerbase

Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 5:52 am
by cacogen
I just wouldn't give them anything more than a grey 'waste cube' and a flush sound. Toilets were hooked up to disposals on early /tg/ maps. Seems like an idea that never came to fruition. I want them to bear fruit.

Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 6:48 am
by PKPenguin321
cacogen wrote:I just wouldn't give them anything more than a grey 'waste cube' and a flush sound. Toilets were hooked up to disposals on early /tg/ maps. Seems like an idea that never came to fruition. I want them to bear fruit.
if by bear fruit you mean shit poop lol

Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 7:12 am
by cacogen
Exactly, pun intended. But it would be a boring cube that's less interesting to stick to people than a urinal cake.

Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 8:27 am
by panvxv
PKPenguin321 wrote:human centipede wouldnt even work because spacemen dont poop (anymore). the toilets are decorative
We don't poop for this to work. Human centipede would work like, hmm, PIPES! You know, if pipe attach to another pipe receives gas part of it also goes to that another pipe. With human centipede this would work almost the same just with timers of receiving nutrients, vitamins and chems. The better a doc is at centipede surgery the timers are shorter.

Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 8:55 pm
by RaveRadbury
Some sort of forced-chaining (perhaps with a loss of an arm for both parties) might be interesting from a gameplay perspective?

This is also making me realize that we can't handcuff people to each other. Sad! Handcuffing people together is a classic crime trope.

Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 3:29 am
by cacogen
I'm thinking about how that would work. You'd have to stay adjacent to the other person. Which means you could move around them. Moving away from them wouldn't work. So you would have to take turns moving forward to go anywhere. You also couldn't use one hand. It could lead to some interesting escapes. Especially if you add more people to the chain. It would be a sub-optimal denial of greentext strategy so would see minimal use in the brig but may still be used in the field if you don't have enough handcuffs. Come to think of it, handcuffs would have to take what each end is attached to into account. I'm not sure how that would work as an item.

Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 1:16 pm
by Jonathan Gupta
This sounds like actual horror gore fantasy, please man who had the idea. Get some help I'm not saying this as a bit or a joke I mean it. You obviously need some help dog the only people who imagine this shit are psychos and gore fetish. Though moth centipede would be funny(We already have it)

Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 1:27 pm
by Agux909
Jonathan Gupta wrote:This sounds like actual horror gore fantasy, please man who had the idea. Get some help I'm not saying this as a bit or a joke I mean it. You obviously need some help dog the only people who imagine this shit are psychos and gore fetish. Though moth centipede would be funny(We already have it)
Wait Gupta, the OP might be abhorrent, but the train of thought after somehow got a good idea out of it, so don't boicot it. Because you won't deny that multiple/chain cuffing sounds hilarious as fuck as a new mechanic.

Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 1:34 pm
by Jonathan Gupta
Agux909 wrote:
Jonathan Gupta wrote:This sounds like actual horror gore fantasy, please man who had the idea. Get some help I'm not saying this as a bit or a joke I mean it. You obviously need some help dog the only people who imagine this shit are psychos and gore fetish. Though moth centipede would be funny(We already have it)
Wait, Gupta, the OP might be abhorrent, but the train of thought after somehow got a good idea out of it, so don't boicot it. Because you won't deny that multiple/chain cuffing sounds hilarious as fuck as a new mechanic.
it would, the clown would go around cuffing people and it would probably turn into a conga line of prisoners.

Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 2:15 pm
by Stickymayhem
Countdown to this freaky torture porn guy getting banned for some weird ERP shit starts now

Place your bets, I'm going for 5 days.

Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 3:53 pm
by panvxv
Wow people here love talk about porn.
Maybe I don't get it but we HAVE horror games and movies with gore and no one is going crazy about it. You are trying to pin on me that I am just some kind of fetishist and I am doing ERP XD

As I told before with have already gore in SS13 and it is big part of it. You can't deny that kitchen isn't a place where human are gibbed just to make hamburgers, organs are fried and served. Someone came with that idea, maybe he liked concept of cannibalism or just think that would fit a game.

I like concept of crazy doctors that are doing experiments to fulfill their intellect and creativity. We have already small amount of it: abductors and Cat Doctor that is NPC. Also don't tell me no one from SS13 coders didn't think about it XD

We have anesthetic in surgery rooms with muzzle/breath mask (that was just changed recently to be muzzle aswell) and its only purpose is to keep kidnaped people on table when doing surgeries.

Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 4:33 pm
by Jonathan Gupta
panvxv wrote:Wow people here love talk about porn.
Maybe I don't get it but we HAVE horror games and movies with gore and no one is going crazy about it. You are trying to pin on me that I am just some kind of fetishist and I am doing ERP XD

As I told before with have already gore in SS13 and it is big part of it. You can't deny that kitchen isn't a place where human are gibbed just to make hamburgers, organs are fried and served. Someone came with that idea, maybe he liked concept of cannibalism or just think that would fit a game.

I like concept of crazy doctors that are doing experiments to fulfill their intellect and creativity. We have already small amount of it: abductors and Cat Doctor that is NPC. Also don't tell me no one from SS13 coders didn't think about it XD

We have anesthetic in surgery rooms with muzzle/breath mask (that was just changed recently to be muzzle as well) and its only purpose is to keep kidnaped people on table when doing surgeries.
human centipede and gibbing people are two different things. XD I mean one of them is a simple grinder and the other is putting another human in the ass for a torture method, cat doctor is a doctor that wants to make cat hybrids out of humans(psycho), abductors want to experiment with humans. This isn't an experiment this is something a psycho(cat doctor) would come up with, at least the cat doctor doesn't fucking ERP. Please get some help. Gibbing humans is not as bad as a full-on human centipede skin ripping is a maybe, when you made this post you had to think of the mechanics. XD I hate getting serious and getting out of my autism mode(how I usually am) because I lose a part of myself. The gibbing humans fits SS13 cause it's just a fucking hellscape. Crazy doctors is a nice concept but don't go immediately towards gore porn, nobody cares about the horror and gore movies because it's MADE to be gore, and horror ss13 is a Roleplaying game where everybody is a fucking spaceman, muzzle is made to restrain people(to silence them) Otherwise people would have to use mute toxin.

TL;DR there is a difference between abductors cat doctor and this shit, none of them dwelve into sticking humans into other humans.

Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 5:33 pm
by cacogen
anything to make me feel again

Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 12:39 am
by Capsandi
I like the stitched lips surgery(though the mime part is op), and I like the idea of a surgery in which you can remove all of the skin off another player, leaving them a constantly bleeding mess who must take the blood of others or die like that one guy from resident evil. Human centipede doesn't work because TG doesn't have butts, try goon

Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 12:41 am
by RaveRadbury
cacogen wrote:I'm thinking about how that would work. You'd have to stay adjacent to the other person. Which means you could move around them. Moving away from them wouldn't work. So you would have to take turns moving forward to go anywhere. You also couldn't use one hand. It could lead to some interesting escapes. Especially if you add more people to the chain. It would be a sub-optimal denial of greentext strategy so would see minimal use in the brig but may still be used in the field if you don't have enough handcuffs. Come to think of it, handcuffs would have to take what each end is attached to into account. I'm not sure how that would work as an item.
Couldn't you piggyback off of current grab mechanics?

Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 3:20 am
by oranges
panvxv wrote:Wow people here love talk about porn.
function of having a large american playerbase I'm afraid

Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 4:48 am
by cacogen
RaveRadbury wrote:
cacogen wrote:I'm thinking about how that would work. You'd have to stay adjacent to the other person. Which means you could move around them. Moving away from them wouldn't work. So you would have to take turns moving forward to go anywhere. You also couldn't use one hand. It could lead to some interesting escapes. Especially if you add more people to the chain. It would be a sub-optimal denial of greentext strategy so would see minimal use in the brig but may still be used in the field if you don't have enough handcuffs. Come to think of it, handcuffs would have to take what each end is attached to into account. I'm not sure how that would work as an item.
Couldn't you piggyback off of current grab mechanics?
Don't know. I just think it would be a fascinating mechanic and was interested to figure out how it could work. Unless it's changed you can already handcuff people to pipes but if the two cuffs worked separately I think it would open up a lot of different configurations. Other than arms, you could have them attachable to pipes, beds and chairs. You could open up legs as well. A temporary legcuff like beartraps that slows you down, except if attached to something it forces you to stay adjacent to it.

Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 7:50 am
by panvxv
I really like the idea with handcuffs. When thinking how they should work I assume the best way would be something like this:

On default handcuffs are set to cuff both hands. When you used them in hand (like pressing Z) they go to one arm mode. In this mode you can left click someone to cuff his left arm or right click them to cuff right arm.

That opens a lot of other ideas: what if you cuff left hand of one person with left hand of other one and then the same thing with right hands. With that you could make them unable to use hands and both of them would be stuck together.
You could even expend on this and make a circle. Having 4 persons and all of their hands are cuffed to other person hand but every hand of person would be cuffed to a diffrent person. How would they move? How dragging would work with them? Simple visualisation below(XD):
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_|__ |___________|-a person that is cuffed to 2 other persons
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Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 7:52 am
by PKPenguin321
oranges wrote:
panvxv wrote:Wow people here love talk about porn.
function of having a large american playerbase I'm afraid
wait i thought we were the "weirdly puritanical but also very accepting of violence" one
in which case americans would love these proposed surgery additions if you think about it

Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 9:52 am
by Stickymayhem
PKPenguin321 wrote:
oranges wrote:
panvxv wrote:Wow people here love talk about porn.
function of having a large american playerbase I'm afraid
wait i thought we were the "weirdly puritanical but also very accepting of violence" one
in which case americans would love these proposed surgery additions if you think about it
The implication is that because you're super puritanical you're all extremely fucked up and desperate for an outlet in private. Plus americans love violence so the skinrip erp features are a win win for our NA playerbase

Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 11:36 am
by cacogen
New Zealand is a backwards shithole masquerading as a progressive country internationally so the idea of people being open about porn use here is of course shocking

Re: Gruesome surgeries

Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 1:09 am
by PKPenguin321
Stickymayhem wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
oranges wrote:
panvxv wrote:Wow people here love talk about porn.
function of having a large american playerbase I'm afraid
wait i thought we were the "weirdly puritanical but also very accepting of violence" one
in which case americans would love these proposed surgery additions if you think about it
The implication is that because you're super puritanical you're all extremely fucked up and desperate for an outlet in private. Plus americans love violence so the skinrip erp features are a win win for our NA playerbase
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