Minor Suggestions

Incoming · Post by **Incoming** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 5:10 pm #125184

Bottom post of the previous page:

Steelpoint wrote:I suggest that if you click a station layout sign (those two tiled one's near arrivals) that it opens a overall image of the station, not only telling you the name (and colour code) of each department but telling you where you are.

E: This should change for each unique station, to help newer people figure out where everything is.

We already have minimap generation, so we could use that, that way it auto updates if the map is physically changed and everything. Frankly I've already tried to do this. The minimap system is just a LITTLE mystic to me right now.

AnonymousNow · Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:53 pm

Goon has some neat stuff, but everything looks like it has nothing close to an UDD - coloured lights, single-celled blobs, cyborgs with more limbs, pods, shuttle detailing, decent water... why don't we see more things like that around?

Incoming · Post by **Incoming** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:01 pm #125555

AnonymousNow wrote:Goon has some neat stuff, but everything looks like it has nothing close to an UDD - coloured lights, single-celled blobs, cyborgs with more limbs, pods, shuttle detailing, decent water... why don't we see more things like that around?

Goonstation is a closed source project, we literally can't get to the code for those things and would have to basically make our own versions from scratch.

For comparision Tgstation is open source, which is why you might see some things that originated here appear on other codebases later.

Also the fact that goonstation has been off doing their own versions of things for so long means that many of their features would be a real pain to port even if we had access to their code.

(also I always really thought colored lights looked like garbage)

Remie Richards · Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:25 pm

Incoming wrote: (also I always really thought colored lights looked like garbage)

it DOES look rubbish

AnonymousNow · Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:30 pm

I'm aware of the closed-source nature of Goonstation, but that hasn't stopped some features from being roughly hewn out of it, forcibly inserted into the least comfortable orifice of our codebase and messily attached with wall staples, elephant dung and hope copied over or cloned.

That said, some things might be worth copying, like multiple cyborg limbs and col-

Remie Richards wrote:
Incoming wrote: (also I always really thought colored lights looked like garbage)
it DOES look rubbish

It's a shame we can't port taste.

I'm kidding, mileage varies.

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:07 am #125595

Colored lights are good as long as you don't oversaturate it.

Seriously a ~10% red tint coming from a fire compared to full on JUST #FFFF00UCK MY SHIT UP FAM is pretty nice.

Incoming · Post by **Incoming** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:08 am #125596

well yeah that's the problem, they ALWAYS overdo it, and all those sprites turn into monocolored shitfests

Screemonster · Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:53 am

so basically exactly what happened with quake 2 and unreal
"oh shit we can actually render coloured lighting in real time LET'S PUT THAT SHIT FUCKING EVERYWHERE"

invisty · Post by **invisty** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:17 am #125658

Remove all the implant breaker nonsense and have EMP break implants or activate "triggerable" implants based on severity.

in b4 ion rifles exploding nuke ops.

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:50 am #125661

Screemonster wrote:so basically exactly what happened with quake 2 and unreal
"oh shit we can actually render coloured lighting in real time LET'S PUT THAT SHIT FUCKING EVERYWHERE"

Gooooood fucking christ I forgot how hilarious OpenGL mode was once you had a computer that supported it. Damn that was cool for its time though.

Spoiler:

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 5:37 pm #125816

whiskey sour is not an actual drink in game what the actual shit why

Gun Hog · Post by **Gun Hog** » Wed Oct 14, 2015 1:26 am #125975

Allow blue, normal flashlights to be attached to guns like the Seclites can. Tacticool should not be limited to Sec!

tuypo1 · Post by **tuypo1** » Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:01 am #125981

allow blue flashlights to let off (reduced) light when in a belt the janitor needs more light.

AnonymousNow · Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:12 am

Gun Hog wrote:Allow blue, normal flashlights to be attached to guns like the Seclites can. Tacticool should not be limited to Sec!

I do wonder why we haven't added gaffer tape yet.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:42 am #126054

Update mini or remove it from the rotation, it is missing so many things like a clothesmate and a dresser which is mildly irritating and the maint is tiny and worthless

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:44 am #126069

>Ministation is tiny

you don't say

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:40 pm #126189

Birdboat station is small but maintenance is still a little more expansive and has good loot

TheNightingale · Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:57 pm

Birdboat station has too much loot in maintenance. Science can walk five metres and get a free set of Security gear, for one. (And the Brig cells are all-access, and the Armory's open to Sec Officers, and...)

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:01 pm #126296

Brig Cells are always all access if there's no time set. The armory being open to everyone is likely because bird boat is meant for low population.

BillWilson · Post by **BillWilson** » Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:05 am #126457

Make it so you can screwdrive an e-sword and put a crayon or pen in it and the color should change to correspond.

Rainbow E-sword for the clown crayon.

TheNightingale · Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:52 am

Zilenan91 wrote:Brig Cells are always all access if there's no time set. The armory being open to everyone is likely because bird boat is meant for low population.

Even if the timer's set. You can put someone in for five minutes, walk away, and they just open the door and stroll out.

Not-Dorsidarf · Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:33 am

TheNightingale wrote:
Zilenan91 wrote:Brig Cells are always all access if there's no time set. The armory being open to everyone is likely because bird boat is meant for low population.
Even if the timer's set. You can put someone in for five minutes, walk away, and they just open the door and stroll out.

Known issue with the permissions on the left cell, apparently

Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:03 am

Zilenan91 wrote:Brig Cells are always all access if there's no time set. The armory being open to everyone is likely because bird boat is meant for low population.

This is not the correct place to report bugs.

One Seven One · Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:44 am

Blank bullets

What's the best way to screw with a clown or security?
Give 'em a gun full of non-lethal bullets and watch them try to use it.

Screemonster · Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:57 am

Now I'm thinking of that scene from In Bruges where Colin Farrell's character blinds someone by shooting him in the face with a blank from like an inch away.

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:22 am #126848

One Seven One wrote:Blank bullets

What's the best way to screw with a clown or security?
Give 'em a gun full of non-lethal bullets and watch them try to use it.

Stalk him and arrest him for every crime it inevitably commits?

Fragnostic · Post by **Fragnostic** » Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:28 pm #126958

Explosions inside containers could scatter the items that were inside before the container was destroyed by the explosion.
A trash bag full of glass shards and screwdrivers with a weak grenade/C4 could be a nightmare for people 1 or 2 tiles away and just bleeding for anyone standing within view. Duffelbags dropped near a trial or rage cage or concert could force shuttle calls while causing massive harm as a whole, but little damage to the station. People could be held hostage with an array of prox sensors and emitters surrounding the hostage seats and a few duffel bags surrounding them.

DaemonBomb · Post by **DaemonBomb** » Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:57 pm #126969

Fragnostic wrote:Explosions inside containers could scatter the items that were inside before the container was destroyed by the explosion.
A trash bag full of glass shards and screwdrivers with a weak grenade/C4 could be a nightmare for people 1 or 2 tiles away and just bleeding for anyone standing within view. Duffelbags dropped near a trial or rage cage or concert could force shuttle calls while causing massive harm as a whole, but little damage to the station. People could be held hostage with an array of prox sensors and emitters surrounding the hostage seats and a few duffel bags surrounding them.

+1 for trashbags of bricks and glass.
I like it the same reason I like pneumatic cannons. They allow for player experimentation.

AnonymousNow · Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:33 pm

DaemonBomb wrote:They allow for player experimentation.

...could you make an inefficient ballistic healing bomb using a container filled with bottles of contact medicine?

Gun Hog · Post by **Gun Hog** » Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:06 pm #126981

Geiger counters! Have them built into hardsuits, the radiation suit, and a handheld device given to engineering lockers, possibly wearable as a jumpsuit accessory.

They respond to rad_act() by warning the user about the severity of the radpulse. The handheld version can scan current rad levels of any mob the user wants to scan.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:24 pm #126986

Isn't that what halogen counters essentially are? And they never do jack?

tuypo1 · Post by **tuypo1** » Sat Oct 17, 2015 12:21 am #127040

a nice traitor buff that d20 has make syndicate tookboxes fit inside backpacks.

In fact even knowing fuck all about ss13 code i know how to make that change myself.

:e: I never actually put the idea

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Sat Oct 17, 2015 12:25 am #127043

What are you trying to say? Make the toolboxes work how? They work just fine

Xhuis · Post by **Xhuis** » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:44 am #127063

Syndicate toolboxes are already fairly powerful. You get a full toolset (minus cable coils) and insulated gloves. On top of that, you also get a robust weapon that only does 3 less damage than an energy pen and is less conspicuous because you can find Syndicate toolboxes so easily in space. There have been times when I legitimately buy the toolbox and wander around with it equipped and Security just throw it on my record that I went space exploring.

tuypo1 · Post by **tuypo1** » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:43 am #127092

oh fuck I missed half that sentence I will edit my post as such

Takeguru · Post by **Takeguru** » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:33 am #127313

Godot themed clothing for the Lawyer's wardrobe, with the visor to go along.

One Seven One · Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:02 pm

Someone was talking about Shadowrun in OOC and this got me thinking

OOC: Torsion: CFD is this nanite-based disease in Shadowrun that like
OOC: Torsion: Makes an AI take over your body

What if the AI had an ability to infect random players who would then be replaced by ghosts loyal to the AI?
The AI would then have some hidden team mates to work with who could cause diversions or even make more borgs in secret.

Helios · Post by **Helios** » Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:56 pm #127466

One Seven One wrote:Someone was talking about Shadowrun in OOC and this got me thinking

OOC: Torsion: CFD is this nanite-based disease in Shadowrun that like
OOC: Torsion: Makes an AI take over your body

What if the AI had an ability to infect random players who would then be replaced by ghosts loyal to the AI?
The AI would then have some hidden team mates to work with who could cause diversions or even make more borgs in secret.

Sounds like a neat Malf round ability idea
What's the current malf win percentage anyways?

TheNightingale · Sun Oct 18, 2015 10:22 pm

Why have it replace the player with a ghost? You could just give them a "You have been MALFIFIED!" popup and send them on their merry way.
(The winrate is 31% AI victory, apparently.)

One Seven One · Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:37 am

TheNightingale wrote:Why have it replace the player with a ghost? You could just give them a "You have been MALFIFIED!" popup and send them on their merry way.
(The winrate is 31% AI victory, apparently.)

Yeah just popping them with a message and maybe a HUD icon would probably be better.

I was thinking of them being replaced mostly, if not entirely, so the new person won't have any memory of the person they're taking over. Making them at least somewhat suspicious and since some people may not notice/may choose to ignore the text in their chat saying they've been malfified.

Also since it may work a little better having someone who wants to work with you, rather than someone being forced to work with you.

Ezel · Post by **Ezel** » Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:10 pm #127682

Lets give the clown a RES (Rapid egg Shooter)
Which shoots egg THE ULTIMATE PRANK!

TheNightingale · Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:17 pm

Give removing embedded objects a verb (currently, you have to click yourself and then click 'remove object', which has a wonderful habit of killing BYOND). Also, allow removing embedded objects from other people without surgery.

Xhuis · Post by **Xhuis** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:34 pm #127948

Make explosions shoot out actual shrapnel, which have almost no damage upon impact but a high chance of embedding, and delete when they hit something else or are removed.

Cheimon · Post by **Cheimon** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:12 pm #127982

Speaking of clicking crashing byond, is there a verb for responding to admin pms? Will adminhelp do the job, or will that just send a generic to all admins instead of the one you want to talk to?

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:15 pm #127984

Just click the name of the admin who responded to you.

invisty · Post by **invisty** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:56 pm #127992

DemonFiren wrote:Just click the name of the admin who responded to you.

He just said he needed a verb. I suffer the same problem - clicking any chat links crashes/freezes BYOND. It makes dealing with admins nigh impossible.

I created a thread for discussing this issue.

FantasticFwoosh · Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:55 pm

More or custom ice cream flavours - Id be down for making some chocolate ice cream or even making my own custom mix with different methods and flavours.

confused rock · Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:49 am

Laser guns should have more ammo than energy guns and there should be a bullet type for some guns like the smg that embed.

Gun Hog · Post by **Gun Hog** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:37 am #128105

Robotics HUD: Given to the Roboticists and the RD to see the health bars of cyborgs, the AI, and bots (such as Beepsky).

Helios · Post by **Helios** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:51 pm #128297

Let Artificers spawn Cultist Bedsheets

DaemonBomb · Post by **DaemonBomb** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:13 pm #128364

When you "use" the blueprints, make it show a map of the station a la crew monitors.
Make the editing blueprint window come up when you use a pen/crayon on them.