Minor Suggestions

AseaHeru · Post by **AseaHeru** » Thu May 29, 2014 1:18 pm #9740

Bottom post of the previous page:

Or add in baymed, where you can technically take a few rounds and keep going because the silly bugger only hit your arm.

Because unless that sort of thing is added the damage isint goina get buffed, due to balance.

Remie Richards · Thu May 29, 2014 9:09 pm

kosmos wrote:We had a thread about glowing party sticks and other pretty lights, right?

The Singularity and Gravity Generator should produce a beautiful, shimmering ambience light.
Purple light from the Singularity (although theoretically shouldn't a black hole be sucking light? Maybe it could produce just darkness...) and green ambient lightning from the Gravity Generator Room would be so cool.
And Nar'Nar could produce an alarming, strong, red light aura!
Tcomms, AI Upload and AI Chamber could have a light blue ambience because of the blue floors.

And on another note it would be awesome if the rotating sun would actually produce light outside in space, instead of whole space being a lighted up environment.

LAG

Lighting is fucking TERRIBLE.

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Sat May 31, 2014 1:46 pm #10206

kosmos wrote:We had a thread about glowing party sticks and other pretty lights, right?

The Singularity and Gravity Generator should produce a beautiful, shimmering ambience light.
Purple light from the Singularity (although theoretically shouldn't a black hole be sucking light? Maybe it could produce just darkness...) and green ambient lightning from the Gravity Generator Room would be so cool.
And Nar'Nar could produce an alarming, strong, red light aura!
Tcomms, AI Upload and AI Chamber could have a light blue ambience because of the blue floors.

And on another note it would be awesome if the rotating sun would actually produce light outside in space, instead of whole space being a lighted up environment.

Oh and it should be made possible to build the TEG (Thermo Electric Generator) on any station through supply crates and assembling or by manually building them from scratch.

i'll leave rewriting our entire lighting system to support colored light up to you.
this is just going to be ass to do, but it would be really cool if it could happen :v

Reimoo · Post by **Reimoo** » Sat May 31, 2014 9:58 pm #10353

There should be a disposals bin next to/near every vending machine. I mean, really.

Kavaloosh · Post by **Kavaloosh** » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:52 am #10439

Miauw wrote:
kosmos wrote:We had a thread about glowing party sticks and other pretty lights, right?

The Singularity and Gravity Generator should produce a beautiful, shimmering ambience light.
Purple light from the Singularity (although theoretically shouldn't a black hole be sucking light? Maybe it could produce just darkness...) and green ambient lightning from the Gravity Generator Room would be so cool.
And Nar'Nar could produce an alarming, strong, red light aura!
Tcomms, AI Upload and AI Chamber could have a light blue ambience because of the blue floors.

And on another note it would be awesome if the rotating sun would actually produce light outside in space, instead of whole space being a lighted up environment.

Oh and it should be made possible to build the TEG (Thermo Electric Generator) on any station through supply crates and assembling or by manually building them from scratch.
i'll leave rewriting our entire lighting system to support colored light up to you.
this is just going to be ass to do, but it would be really cool if it could happen :v

doesn't v500 or whatever make it easy?

paprika · Post by **paprika** » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:57 am #10442

No, coding is still extremely difficult!

kosmos · Post by **kosmos** » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:49 am #10668

Psyentific (from the Wires Shock on Contact -thread) wrote:Wood station 13 when?

There should be a small homemade-looking wooden derelict or dj-station of some sort floating in space because the thought of it amuses me greatly.

AseaHeru · Post by **AseaHeru** » Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:52 pm #10696

I /was/ going to point out why that was silly, then realized this is home to ClownCombat!

Add it.

MedicInDisquise · Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:34 am

Why the fuck can't we type in BPM.

As someone with wireless, it takes 2 years to put in 218 BPM.

Psyentific · Post by **Psyentific** » Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:59 am #10846

MedicInDisquise wrote:Why the fuck can't we type in BPM.

As someone with wireless, it takes 2 years to put in 218 BPM.

What?

kosmos · Post by **kosmos** » Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:53 am #10882

MedicInDisquise wrote:Why the fuck can't we type in BPM.

As someone with wireless, it takes 2 years to put in 218 BPM.

You mean BPM in the musical instruments? While you import a song, you can type in the BPM.

ThanatosRa · Post by **ThanatosRa** » Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:37 pm #11091

Mice should be able to randomly chew power cables. Maybe make it so it shocks them to death when they do.

kosmos · Post by **kosmos** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:59 am #12799

Surgical tools should be start stored in an Operating Theatre locker, in one big mess, so before a surgery they should be assembled on to the table if the surgeon wants to be efficient (so people can get a small feel what it's like to be a real life nurse muh realisms).

AseaHeru · Post by **AseaHeru** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:13 pm #12873

That sounds good, but is a mapping thing more of a coding thing.

Unless a surgical tool crate gets added...

Kelenius · Post by **Kelenius** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:46 pm #12890

So we do surgery even more rarely than now?

AseaHeru · Post by **AseaHeru** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:29 pm #12916

People do surgery at all?

kosmos · Post by **kosmos** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:55 am #13056

AseaHeru wrote:That sounds good, but is a mapping thing more of a coding thing.

This is the ideas-forum, not tied to coding or mapping.

AseaHeru wrote:People do surgery at all?

Btw I made the ghetto surgery -section on the wiki a lot easier to follow for the ghetto surgeon, in hopes of people doing surgery more, even if it's just ghetto gender reassignments on the dirty maintenance tunnel floor!

Kelenius · Post by **Kelenius** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:05 am #13108

kosmos wrote:Btw I made the ghetto surgery -section on the wiki a lot easier to follow for the ghetto surgeon, in hopes of people doing surgery more, even if it's just ghetto gender reassignments on the dirty maintenance tunnel floor!

Ngh

People shouldn't be looking for regular and ghetto surgery guides in different places.

AseaHeru · Post by **AseaHeru** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:35 pm #13129

I know theres the guide, bust most people just ingnore it.

Perhaps when we have a more robust medical system...

Cipher3 · Post by **Cipher3** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:56 am #13269

Metastation doesn't even have anesthetic tanks in its surgery anymore - only in maintenance medbay.

paprika · Post by **paprika** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 2:38 am #13422

They should be in the surgery locker, does that not exist?

Cipher3 · Post by **Cipher3** » Sun Jun 15, 2014 11:26 pm #13743

Well, there isn't one for robotics - I don't frequent medbay surgery as much.

AseaHeru · Post by **AseaHeru** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:08 pm #13928

Robotics dosent have the vender on metastation, does it?

Remie Richards · Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:16 pm

Speaking of Surgery, I just got this coded and it works for all surgeries:

Mute has grabbed Unknown passively!
Unknown has been laid on the operating table by Mute.
Mute drapes the surgical drapes over Unknown's groin to prepare for a gender reassignment.
You should make a small incision.
Mute begins to make an incision in Unknown's groin.
Mute succeeds!
You should clamp some bleeders in the patient.
Mute begins to clamp bleeders in Unknown's groin.
Mute succeeds!
You should shape the patient's genitals.
Mute begins to reshape Unknown's genitals to look more feminine.
Mute has made a woman of Unknown!
You should close the wound.
Mute begins to mend the incision in Unknown's groin.
Mute succeeds!

The bold sections are what's new.

Wanted?

miggles · Post by **miggles** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:43 am #14090

i dunno
it seems too hand-holding for surgery
if you dont know surgery procedures you can easily just look at the wiki and do all of them

Post by **MisterPerson** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:59 pm #14219

miggles wrote:i dunno
it seems too hand-holding for surgery
if you dont know surgery procedures you can easily just look at the wiki and do all of them

What? I'm literally baffled by your logic here. Why should looking things up on an external site be mandatory? It's the same information just displayed in a more user-friendly way.

Lo6a4evskiy · Post by **Lo6a4evskiy** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:23 pm #14242

MisterPerson wrote:Why should looking things up on an external site be mandatory?

Why the hell don't we just make everything magically spawn guidelines? Let people put at least SOME effort into the bloody thing. Surgery barely requires any skill already and you want to dumb it down even further?

Neerti · Post by **Neerti** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:40 pm #14248

I fail to understand how having to look up information on an external site makes you more pro and skillful, or rather, I don't understand how not having to look up things makes the game 'baby' you, when it's the same result, just one is ingame and takes less time for the end user to get that information.

Post by **Jacquerel** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:26 pm #14260

External resources being required should be avoided wherever possible, having a wiki page open in another tab really doesn't count as compelling gameplay rather than just "unclear game design".
This is a good change and the wording does not just say "use the scalpel", it leads you on. Maybe it could be a little more vague though, like describing the patient's condition as a clue rather than "you should x".

Perakp · Post by **Perakp** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:43 am #14294

I'd prefer instructions being shown on the computer next to the surgery table. It wouldn't feel as hamfisted, with enough creativity you could slip in some fluff about the patient's condition. (or just have the now useless computer link to the wiki

)

miggles · Post by **miggles** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:00 am #14299

thats a better idea
make it show up on the otherwise useless operating computer

Remie Richards · Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:47 pm

Alright, I'll move it to the Op computer, Provided there is an easy link between Surgery code and the table and comp that handle surgery.
Otherwise it'll require some more work.

Lo6a4evskiy · Post by **Lo6a4evskiy** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:55 pm #14355

Well then it's better to replace surgery with some magic machine, because at this point surgery steps are nothing but minor annoyance

What's the point in even having surgery

If you like it for flashy descriptions it spits out when you click, make it like a surgery robot that will do the same but you only have to press one button

Perakp · Post by **Perakp** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:58 pm #14356

You can do surgeries in other places besides robotics and surgery room though. I know particle accelerator code checks for nearby accelerator parts, you could modify that to check for nearby operating computers.

Gun Hog · Post by **Gun Hog** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:20 pm #14359

I like it that way. Newbie Robos and MDs can table a patient and read the recommended steps from the operating monitor. Once these players become more robust, they can do the procedures with just tools and a cleaver/hatchet/armblade.

Remie Richards · Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:41 pm

Perakp wrote:You can do surgeries in other places besides robotics and surgery room though. I know particle accelerator code checks for nearby accelerator parts, you could modify that to check for nearby operating computers.

The op computer has references to the Patient, so I simply went Patient --> Surgeries list --> Surgery --> Surgery steps.

Also, I went ahead and swapped the old White popup window on the Op computer with one of the slightly sexier black ones (Not NanoUI sadly, that's undocumented and way over my head)

Edit:

Rolan7 · Post by **Rolan7** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:59 pm #14367

Really cool 10/10
Having the instructions pop up in the message window kinda suggested that every spacemen is a trained doctor, this is a lot better.

At some point I should change the descriptions on R-walls to hint at the next step for construction/deconstruction. Stuff like "This is a reinforced wall. Its outer casing is gone. Heavy bolts are keeping the rods in place."

Gun Hog · Post by **Gun Hog** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:10 pm #14369

Make the descriptions more computer-ey! Example: "Recommended Procedure: cauterize wound" or similar.

Remie Richards · Wed Jun 18, 2014 7:10 pm

Gun Hog wrote:Make the descriptions more computer-ey! Example: "Recommended Procedure: cauterize wound" or similar.

I suppose that'd be something.

I kinda like the informality to it though.

Durkel · Post by **Durkel** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:53 pm #14405

Pineapple tree for botany.

Then you can add pineapple pizza and roasted ham with pineapple.

And when you mutate it you get a pineapple grenade tree which work like IEDS.

Cayce · Post by **Cayce** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:04 am #14418

Monkeys should be able to ride corgis, pugs, cats and goats.

miggles · Post by **miggles** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:33 am #14438

pineapples do not grow on trees
that is your infuriating fact for the day

Cipher3 · Post by **Cipher3** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:43 am #14450

miggles wrote:pineapples do not grow on trees
that is your infuriating fact for the day

Good job Miggles now I'm gonna go jump off a cliff.

Like a two-foot high one, but still a cliff.

kosmos · Post by **kosmos** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:25 am #14466

If you smell the bottom of the pineapple, you can tell if it's good. If the bottom has no smell, it won't taste sweet, but if it smells like pineapple, it's good.

Also: In zero gravity, lockers should be counted as walls (enabling you to move). It was awful to navigate through armory in zero g because I was getting stuck between lockers and I always had to throw shit to get myself moving again.
And zero gravity punching should project both targets in opposite directions.

Cipher3 · Post by **Cipher3** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:33 am #14467

kosmos wrote:If you smell the bottom of the pineapple, you can tell if it's good. If the bottom has no smell, it won't taste sweet, but if it smells like pineapple, it's good.

Also: In zero gravity, lockers should be counted as walls (enabling you to move). It was awful to navigate through armory in zero g because I was getting stuck between lockers and I always had to throw shit to get myself moving again.
And zero gravity punching should project both targets in opposite directions.

They stop your movement but don't count as walls. Very annoying.

Cheimon · Post by **Cheimon** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:20 pm #14824

Change the mech interface to use chemistry interface style buttons instead of the weird hyperlink style of thing. At the moment you can frequently click it and not actually have it affect anything. You have to spam any given command, which is silly and unnecessary.

ThanatosRa · Post by **ThanatosRa** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:31 am #14889

Since there's no bad idea thread...

There should be a minuscule chance that when a person is sent through telescience, either way, they get a traitor objective marking them as an Evil Twin of the person sent through.

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Sun Jun 22, 2014 2:15 pm #15160

Kavaloosh wrote:
Miauw wrote:
kosmos wrote:We had a thread about glowing party sticks and other pretty lights, right?

The Singularity and Gravity Generator should produce a beautiful, shimmering ambience light.
Purple light from the Singularity (although theoretically shouldn't a black hole be sucking light? Maybe it could produce just darkness...) and green ambient lightning from the Gravity Generator Room would be so cool.
And Nar'Nar could produce an alarming, strong, red light aura!
Tcomms, AI Upload and AI Chamber could have a light blue ambience because of the blue floors.

And on another note it would be awesome if the rotating sun would actually produce light outside in space, instead of whole space being a lighted up environment.

Oh and it should be made possible to build the TEG (Thermo Electric Generator) on any station through supply crates and assembling or by manually building them from scratch.
i'll leave rewriting our entire lighting system to support colored light up to you.
this is just going to be ass to do, but it would be really cool if it could happen :v
doesn't v500 or whatever make it easy?

you still have to code a system that properly mixes the colors and such. easy is not the word I would use. 500 makes it feasible because it makes us not need a sprite for every single possible color ever.

ThanatosRa wrote:Since there's no bad idea thread...

There should be a minuscule chance that when a person is sent through telescience, either way, they get a traitor objective marking them as an Evil Twin of the person sent through.

believe it or not, telescience originally had a chance to make you a rev.

bandit · Post by **bandit** » Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:34 pm #15192

ThanatosRa wrote:Since there's no bad idea thread...

There should be a minuscule chance that when a person is sent through telescience, either way, they get a traitor objective marking them as an Evil Twin of the person sent through.

http://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=32

ThanatosRa · Post by **ThanatosRa** » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:07 pm #15200

bandit wrote:
ThanatosRa wrote:Since there's no bad idea thread...

There should be a minuscule chance that when a person is sent through telescience, either way, they get a traitor objective marking them as an Evil Twin of the person sent through.
http://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=32

Oh. There it is. Thank you.

Rolan7 · Post by **Rolan7** » Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:39 am #15494

Capsaicin oil from peppers and nova flowers does nothing when sprayed at people. It ought to be the same as the "condensed capsaicin" in pepper sprays.