Minor Suggestions

Rolan7 · Post by **Rolan7** » Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:39 am #15494

Bottom post of the previous page:

Capsaicin oil from peppers and nova flowers does nothing when sprayed at people. It ought to be the same as the "condensed capsaicin" in pepper sprays.

ChangelingRain · Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:00 am

Capsaicin oil and condensed capsaicin are different things! If you want condensed capsaicin, you have to condense capsaicin oil with chemistry stuff.

Cipher3 · Post by **Cipher3** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:28 am #15703

Anonus wrote:Capsaicin oil and condensed capsaicin are different things! If you want condensed capsaicin, you have to condense capsaicin oil with chemistry stuff.

Sure, if you want to bother proposing a formula to condense it. Which would be kinda strange to figure out how adding different chemicals just condenses the oil, and there's no currently existing machine that would make sense to be used for the job.

ChangelingRain · Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:38 am

There already is a formula to condense it, 1 capsiacin oil, 5 ethanol for 5 condensed capsiacin.
Which, admittedly, isn't condensing, it's diluting, but >SS13 chemistry

Rolan7 · Post by **Rolan7** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:00 am #15713

That's kinda dumb yeah, but alright.
However it's only working with pure ethanol, not the alcoholic drinks (which are children of the /ethanol/ type, now). /ethanol/ drinks ought to count for the reaction, so maybe I'll fix that. Then botany can cooperate with the bartender or chef to make it, eventually. (Kitchen can brew various boozes with universal enzyme).

kosmos · Post by **kosmos** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:54 am #15753

Incredible viruses made by the virologist should be researchable and give loads of different R&D levels. Same with mutations genetics finds.

Terminutter · Post by **Terminutter** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:26 pm #15989

Stop the RCD from being a steaming pile of shit. It's 100% useless unless you want a tile to space.
1) 30 mass capacity is shit. You can construct a grand total of 6 walls or so, or deconstruct 6 things. Whoop-tee-fucking-do. Increase this to 120 at least. Maybe have a super RCD that holds 300 or so, make that the tator objective and also give one to the CE. (even though item objectives are terrible) Or add even better ones as R&D items. Hell, with a high enough bluespace, electric and construction make a super RCD that stores 500 mass.
2) Make mass cartridges fit in boxes, make them fill 30 mass each at least.
3) Provide engineers with a full RCD and 2 spare cartridges each in engineering lockers. Want to know why so few people fix breaches? It takes forever and shuttle call anyway. That's why. Making it faster makes it more likely they'll do it.
4) Stop mass cartridges from being prohibitively expensive. They require a huge amount of metal and glass for what they are, so there's no point using them ever atm, especially since RCD is basically an instant lynch item.

Worried about engineers drilling holes in the floor? It's basically the only way to do it without bombing or welder bombing, so tough. Or remove it from the standard RCDs because no fun allowed and keep it on the EVA RCD.

Lo6a4evskiy · Post by **Lo6a4evskiy** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:36 pm #15997

Terminutter wrote:Want to know why so few people fix breaches? It takes forever

Rods in one hand. Floor tiles in other.
Click, X, Click, X, Click, X, Click, Move, repeat

Stickymayhem · Post by **Stickymayhem** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:32 pm #16002

Could the vent system be improved?

It's a nightmare to change vents because the window refreshes and sends you back to the top with every change, making the task tedious and take far far more time than it needs to. This makes it pretty painful for atmosians and plasmafiring AIs.

SingularByte · Post by **SingularByte** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:56 pm #18929

Make antimov laws red instead of black. They look so similar to asimov laws that it can take a while for the silicons to notice them.

Reimoo · Post by **Reimoo** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 10:39 am #19163

Remove the ability to talk in space without a hardsuit helmet on because it's a vacuum.

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:04 pm #19203

Lo6a4evskiy wrote:
Terminutter wrote:Want to know why so few people fix breaches? It takes forever
Rods in one hand. Floor tiles in other.
Click, X, Click, X, Click, X, Click, Move, repeat

If its a large breach you can even set 9 rods in 9 clicks and then 9 tiles on top. Full 3x3 breach covered in 10 second.

MrMindless · Post by **MrMindless** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:45 pm #19263

considering all stuns were reduced and the AI pretty much has no way to fight back against rogue/syndicate cyborgs could a mode be added to the AI turrets that turns them "indiscriminate" and causes them to fire on cyborgs as well?
I mean its a bit silly a character who literally cannot move can be killed by emagging even a single cyborg

Wesdo · Post by **Wesdo** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:29 pm #20205

You can break pens by using a screwdriver on it, and using it again on it would fix it.

Kelenius · Post by **Kelenius** » Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:07 am #20214

Wesdo wrote:You can break pens by using a screwdriver on it, and using it again on it would fix it.

And what's the point?

Rose-chan · Post by **Rose-chan** » Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:55 am #20225

Kelenius wrote:
Wesdo wrote:You can break pens by using a screwdriver on it, and using it again on it would fix it.
And what's the point?

If someone tries to use the broken pen they get ink all over them. HONK!

Cipher3 · Post by **Cipher3** » Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:51 pm #20327

Rose-chan wrote:
Kelenius wrote:
Wesdo wrote:You can break pens by using a screwdriver on it, and using it again on it would fix it.
And what's the point?
If someone tries to use the broken pen they get ink all over them. HONK!

Do it now.

c4g · Post by **c4g** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:36 am #20405

let people put hats on beepsky

Cavoglave · Post by **Cavoglave** » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:16 pm #23198

Minebots should follow verbal commands a la the slimes.

...Do any of the coders even look at these?

Remie Richards · Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:06 pm

Cavoglave wrote:Minebots should follow verbal commands a la the slimes.

...Do any of the coders even look at these?

This will be easy to do once Miauw's Say() Rewrite goes through.

kosmos · Post by **kosmos** » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:43 am #23283

Station bounced radios would be a lot cooler if they had the walkie-talkie tshhk-sound effect played to anyone near it whenever they're used. Or have a "Tshhk!" typed out.

And...
Getting shocked by electrified doors or grilles should make you go all looney tunes, as in getting stuck and convulsing for a few seconds before falling over (and making your hair stand up, as in bedhead-hair, except if you're bald), duration depending on the power in powergrid, if someone touches you without insulated gloves, they get stuck and convulse too. This could lead into huge train of people convulsing when there's a lot of power in the powergrid. This might be a shitty idea.

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:48 am #23285

kosmos wrote: Getting shocked by electrified doors or grilles should make you go all looney tunes, as in getting stuck and convulsing for a few seconds before falling over (and making your hair stand up, as in bedhead-hair, except if you're bald), duration depending on the power in powergrid, if someone touches you without insulated gloves, they get stuck and convulse too. This could lead into huge train of people convulsing when there's a lot of power in the powergrid. This might be a shitty idea.

IMPLEMENT HE POSTHASTE

Raven776 · Post by **Raven776** » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:28 pm #23297

Stickymayhem wrote:Could the vent system be improved?

It's a nightmare to change vents because the window refreshes and sends you back to the top with every change, making the task tedious and take far far more time than it needs to. This makes it pretty painful for atmosians and plasmafiring AIs.

Same thing for filters. The only trick I've come up with is opening the window as large as it could go.

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:52 pm #23302

Somebody was working on nanoUI for vents some time ago, but nothing ever came of it, sadly.

Kelenius · Post by **Kelenius** » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:50 pm #23307

/vg/ has really cool vents, and even cooler scrubbers.

Reimoo · Post by **Reimoo** » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:23 pm #23347

kosmos wrote: Getting shocked by electrified doors or grilles should make you go all looney tunes, as in getting stuck and convulsing for a few seconds before falling over (and making your hair stand up, as in bedhead-hair, except if you're bald), duration depending on the power in powergrid, if someone touches you without insulated gloves, they get stuck and convulse too. This could lead into huge train of people convulsing when there's a lot of power in the powergrid. This might be a shitty idea.

Oh my god. This is genius.

Metafive · Post by **Metafive** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 5:59 pm #23773

I take no credit for this, but I sadly can't recall who first came up with it:

Medbay should have a box of lollipops to give to good patients. Make them equippable as face-slot items like cigarettes, except they can also be added as an accessory to clown masks.

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 11:38 am #23860

Metafive wrote:I take no credit for this, but I sadly can't recall who first came up with it:

Medbay should have a box of lollipops to give to good patients. Make them equippable as face-slot items like cigarettes, except they can also be added as an accessory to clown masks.

I'd add this if somebody made sprites.
(Making them both wearable on your mask slot and edible is impossible (not worth the effort, anyway), though)

Kelenius · Post by **Kelenius** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:14 pm #23870

Miauw wrote:
Metafive wrote:I take no credit for this, but I sadly can't recall who first came up with it:

Medbay should have a box of lollipops to give to good patients. Make them equippable as face-slot items like cigarettes, except they can also be added as an accessory to clown masks.
I'd add this if somebody made sprites.
(Making them both wearable on your mask slot and edible is impossible (not worth the effort, anyway), though)

Make them like cigarettes? Add some nutriment? Add a lollipop stick that is left behind when it's done?

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:49 pm #23894

Yeah, can't they work like cigarettes? Imbued cigs dose the smoker with whatever they were imbued with.

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:24 pm #23906

meh, you'd have to light your lollipop.

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 11:20 pm #23938

Unwrap?

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:33 pm #23977

Scott wrote:Unwrap?

how did i not think of this.

they'd slowly be consumed even while not in your mouth tho

now i just need sprites

kosmos · Post by **kosmos** » Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:03 am #24073

The Detective's Forensic Scanner could maybe look a little cooler. WIth all the updates to gun sprites, it still shares the same sprite with Cargo's Destination Tagger (they both look like they're from beyond r4407). I dunno if I should post this to a spriting thread instead.

Oh and DNA Injectors feel weird with their way of dissapearing after use. Nothing else in the game vanishes like that, leaving no evidence. Maybe they could just turn into normal syringes for muh realisms, maybe an added "trace of a DNA..." for Detective snoopings.

bandit · Post by **bandit** » Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:57 pm #24147

kosmos wrote:Oh and DNA Injectors feel weird with their way of dissapearing after use. Nothing else in the game vanishes like that, leaving no evidence. Maybe they could just turn into normal syringes for muh realisms, maybe an added "trace of a DNA..." for Detective snoopings.

Oh god no. They already ruined botany this way.

Antimattercarp · Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:51 am

Color psychology sec edition!
Blue sec uniforms as an option.
Color at least one of the cells a bright pepto bismol pink like a a Drunk tank.

TheWiznard · Post by **TheWiznard** » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:15 am #24237

what if getting a good roll on a dice increased your chances to perform minor tasks significantly better; such as using a wired coin on a vending machine or kicking a grille without insulated gloves. roll a d20 and get a nat 20 for increased win rates at a slot machine or something who knows.

Rose-chan · Post by **Rose-chan** » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:29 am #24240

What would keep people from just rolling the dice until they got a natural 20?

Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:04 am

TheWiznard wrote:what if getting a good roll on a dice increased your chances to perform minor tasks significantly better; such as using a wired coin on a vending machine or kicking a grille without insulated gloves. roll a d20 and get a nat 20 for increased win rates at a slot machine or something who knows.

Wrong thread: http://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=32

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:04 pm #24274

TheWiznard wrote:what if getting a good roll on a dice increased your chances to perform minor tasks significantly better; such as using a wired coin on a vending machine or kicking a grille without insulated gloves. roll a d20 and get a nat 20 for increased win rates at a slot machine or something who knows.

even if this was not a bad idea, it would still be literally impossible to implement.

Remie Richards · Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:32 pm

Code: Select all

/mob/living/carbon/human
    var/luck = 0

/some/dice/shit/roll(var/mob/living/carbon/human/roller)
    var/roll = rand(1,6)
    if(roller)
        roller.luck = roll*10//as percentage

/some/thing/that/uses/luck(var/mob/living/carbon/human/H)
    if(H)
        if(prob(H.luck))
            H << "You won"
        else
            H << "You suck"

Something to that extent

and that's terrible code I just spewed up because it's late.
Not exactly "literally impossible"

Rolan7 · Post by **Rolan7** » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:00 pm #24340

The impossible part is finding and replacing all the appropriate calls to rand()

Not literally impossible, but it won't happen.

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:17 pm #24422

its about as literal as hitler but yeah nobody will ever do that and it wont ever be accepted either :V

TheWiznard · Post by **TheWiznard** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:12 pm #24527

give traitor implants a verb tab like wizard spells or something because trying to type out *twitch_s in the heat of battle to stop a borg from robusting you is insane. it's not like it makes anything any easier in the long run because you still only get like 2-3 uses out of them, so why can't they actually be useful and have a tab-mabob

Reimoo · Post by **Reimoo** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:34 pm #24547

Why can't we hide things under floor tiles yet? Like come on, guys.

Lo6a4evskiy · Post by **Lo6a4evskiy** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:03 pm #24551

Because that would be really hard to find?

It's hard enough to track things as is.

Cipher3 · Post by **Cipher3** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:10 pm #24552

Lo6a4evskiy wrote:Because that would be really hard to find?

It's hard enough to track things as is.

Make it so mesons detect it and only a certain size of item can be hidden.

Lo6a4evskiy · Post by **Lo6a4evskiy** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:20 pm #24553

Pff, mesons. Hide an item in arrivals, cover with locker and nobody will ever see it.

This idea is about the same thing as "make crowbar knock out with one hit and kill with three". Crowbar isn't meant to be a weapon, hidden storage isn't supposed to be everywhere.

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:30 am #24602

Hiding stuff under floor tiles is actually a pretty good idea but it's weird to do and maybe a little op.

bandit · Post by **bandit** » Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:03 pm #24627

I know it's been brought up, but hiding things in vents instead? Let crewmen be tacticool spies

Fragnostic · Post by **Fragnostic** » Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:03 am #24764

Improvised Firebombs should have a chance of exploding when wiring it. Also, before filling it with welderfuel, you should be able to fill it with 10 glass shards/10 bullets(any cal)/5 syringes(may be filled with chems) as shrapnel or a payload to have objects to propel at victims. The glass shards should stab and must be surgically removed, the bullets should have their primers ignited by the explosion(thus firing them), and syringes that hit people not wearing protective clothing will be injected instantly like syringe gun. Really, I'm just tired of all of the explosives in this game causing structural damage, but no real propulsion of loose items or even fragments created by the explosion. There needs to be some sort of shrapnel to create high damage/chem exposure easily towards humans while minimizing the amount of damage done to the station in general.