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Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun Pun
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:04 pm
by Lumbermancer
Someone spawned like 10 monkeys, probably from cubes, and since I didn't want to fight blob I decided to butcher them all. As I was skinning my 7th monkey, it struck me how braindead monkeys are. Pete would at least try to hoof me the fuck up, they just stood in spot and took it.
Make them more alive. Make them run away when harmed, maybe even go full chimp-out berserk mode. Real chimpanzee would be able to rip off your arms and beat you to death with them. It wouldn't affect genetics or kitchen, because monkeys would allow you to grab and handle them anyway (but not choke). And I can imagine the possibility of some tator shenanigans, like dumping a locker full of them in brig and coaxing them into attack.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:14 pm
by PKPenguin321
one time i spawned about a hundred or so monkeys in xenobiology because the monkey recycler is busted with upgrades
if i could weaponize this it would be hilarious
nah but real talk monkeys aren't that much of a threat, since a normal human punch has like a 1/4 chance of KOing them for an hour
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:53 pm
by Screemonster
Fun fact
Last time I tried it, monkey cubes in the same container as a water grenade (such as a box, locker or crate) are activated and cause the monkeys to spill out of said container.
As soon as I discovered this naturally my first response was to roll cargotech and mail monkeybomb boxes to every destination on the mailing system.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:48 pm
by DemonFiren
YOU EVIL GENIUS.
Doing this now.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:53 pm
by lumipharon
New traitor item:
Rabid monkey cube.
Exactly the same as a normal cube, but the monkey that comes out runs around biting the shit out of people. Misc diseases optional.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:04 pm
by DemonFiren
Well, I put a handful of monkey cubes into a box with a mousetrap-triggered grenade containing one small beaker full of water.
Nada, nothing.
It did work when placed into the world, though. I suppose that means lockers and crates will be OK.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:23 pm
by ShadowDimentio
Goon did this, and now whenever you try to perform the ~secret monkey technique~ the monkey's innate bloodrage awakens and tries to murder you.
And guess what we have that Goon doesn't? Xenobio. Guess what xenobio does all day? Abuse monkeys.
Don't.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:28 pm
by MMMiracles
Make on-station monkeys actually care to an extent about their existence, leave cube-monkeys lobotomized.
Maybe even make a potion/chemical that activates the cube-monkey's higher functions so you can still have monkey shenanigans.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:30 pm
by Screemonster
DemonFiren wrote:Well, I put a handful of monkey cubes into a box with a mousetrap-triggered grenade containing one small beaker full of water.
Nada, nothing.
It did work when placed into the world, though. I suppose that means lockers and crates will be OK.
Damnit, must have been changed. It was like a year ago when I did it.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:58 pm
by LiamLime
NO NO NO N ON ON O NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!
I still have PTSD from monkeys with metal rods! DO NOT. EVER. BRING. BACK. MONKEY. SELF. PRESERVATION... EVER.
Monkeys used to have self preservation AI. Basically when you hit them, they became aggressive and hit anyone around them. At the time, metal rods were the most robust melee item in the game, so what people would do was to drag a monkey out of med-sci (now genetics), drag it to some public corridor, give it a metal rod, whack it once and run awaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy. From that point on, that corridor become a death trap as the monkey would attack ever unsuspecting crew member who went by.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 12:01 am
by Zilenan91
How much damage did metal rods do?
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 12:06 am
by LiamLime
I don't remember exact numbers, but if memory serves, it was in the 20-30 damage per hit range. Basically in a hit or two, you'd be on the floor and waiting to die.
The damage various things did used to be much higher though. The e-sword was a 1 hit kill, extinguishers did 20ish damage, etc. So PvP damage was much higher and you could get killed very quickly. I wouldn't say it was better or worse, it was just different. Whether you think it was better or worse is more down to personal preference.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 12:51 am
by ThanatosRa
That just makes me want this More.
EDIT: I kind of vaguely remember this too. It's been a long time.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 11:27 am
by Lumbermancer
ShadowDimentio wrote:Guess what xenobio does all day? Abuse monkeys.
Last time I done Xenobo all I needed to do is put monkeys into disposal. Don't see how it will affect it at all.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 10:50 am
by Lumbermancer
2016 is the year of the monkey.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 10:57 am
by 1g88a
Give pun pun a knife, bait a greyshirt into punching pun pun, assassination goal completed.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:15 pm
by Lumbermancer
How do I bump threads?
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:26 pm
by cancer_engine
Allow red slimes to produce an aura of beserk rage, like a moth of wrath from DCSS.
>Make a grenade with thr red slime core and apropriate regeant
>Throw at a group of monkies (armed with weapons)
>Get stabbed/blundgeoned to death by the horrifyingly robust simple mob ai
>proceed to watch the entire station collapse to monkies as a ghost
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 6:27 pm
by Cobby
The issue with Xenobio monkeys is nonexistent because of the new consoles.
If you want to try to coax a monkey into it's death by slime then yeah, it should be able to fight back.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:20 pm
by Ezel
New traitor objective:Kill pun pun
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:59 am
by Davidchan
Goonstation has something like this, monkeys will fight back when pissed off, even going as far to attack you for attacking other monkey mobs in line of sight. The worst part was they'd grab weapons too, so trying to toolbox a monkey to death could result in it grabbing a surgical saw or something and going apeshit on you, no pun intended. Glass shards at least tripped them up, since they don't' have shoes.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:14 am
by Cheimon
That actually sounds pretty good, so long as it's on a person by person basis. Punch a monkey in genetics? Hope you're okay being cloned.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:32 am
by lumipharon
Yes please.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:38 pm
by Cuboos
LiamLime wrote:NO NO NO N ON ON O NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!
I still have PTSD from monkeys with metal rods! DO NOT. EVER. BRING. BACK. MONKEY. SELF. PRESERVATION... EVER.
Monkeys used to have self preservation AI. Basically when you hit them, they became aggressive and hit anyone around them. At the time, metal rods were the most robust melee item in the game, so what people would do was to drag a monkey out of med-sci (now genetics), drag it to some public corridor, give it a metal rod, whack it once and run awaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy. From that point on, that corridor become a death trap as the monkey would attack ever unsuspecting crew member who went by.
Fuck you, that shit sounds hilarious, merge now.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:20 pm
by Lumbermancer
Davidchan wrote:Goonstation has something like this, monkeys will fight back when pissed off, even going as far to attack you for attacking other monkey mobs in line of sight. The worst part was they'd grab weapons too, so trying to toolbox a monkey to death could result in it grabbing a surgical saw or something and going apeshit on you, no pun intended. Glass shards at least tripped them up, since they don't' have shoes.
Goonmonkeys when.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:33 pm
by iamgoofball
i might do this with the Animal Farm PR
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:42 pm
by Zilenan91
Oh heck yeah, can you make it so that the monkies in containment are carnivores too for reasons?
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:00 am
by Davidchan
I can see it now, Assistants make a glass cage every round in the bar, Pete and Pun Pun are locked inside, placing bets on who wins.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:09 am
by Zilenan91
Or xenobiologists spamming monkies and dumping 900 of them into the bar
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:35 am
by iamgoofball
Zilenan91 wrote:Oh heck yeah, can you make it so that the monkies in containment are carnivores too for reasons?
due to how farm animal code that I've been working on functions, totally
Davidchan wrote:I can see it now, Assistants make a glass cage every round in the bar, Pete and Pun Pun are locked inside, placing bets on who wins.
already expecting this with chickens but that works too
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:40 am
by Wyzack
Can we breed loyal attack dogs? And tastier cows with supervaluable beef? Also you should make a thread for it
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:47 am
by iamgoofball
Wyzack wrote:Can we breed loyal attack dogs? And tastier cows with supervaluable beef? Also you should make a thread for it
I'll make a thread when I have a working alpha I can show off, shit's still in dev. I got a PR up but it's missing a lot of stuff.
I have most the framework finish but GITHUB IS DOWN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:37 am
by M0nsoon
iamgoofball wrote:Wyzack wrote:Can we breed loyal attack dogs? And tastier cows with supervaluable beef? Also you should make a thread for it
I'll make a thread when I have a working alpha I can show off, shit's still in dev. I got a PR up but it's missing a lot of stuff.
I have most the framework finish but GITHUB IS DOWN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
God speed you glorious bastard
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:47 am
by lumipharon
Let monkeys use guns again. Seriously pulling a trigger is not a complex thing to do. If they can do it in planet of the apes, they should be able to do it in ss13.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 3:55 pm
by Lumbermancer
lumipharon wrote:Let monkeys use guns again. Seriously pulling a trigger is not a complex thing to do. If they can do it in planet of the apes, they should be able to do it in ss13.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:36 pm
by ThanatosRa
iamgoofball wrote:Zilenan91 wrote:Oh heck yeah, can you make it so that the monkies in containment are carnivores too for reasons?
due to how farm animal code that I've been working on functions, totally
Davidchan wrote:I can see it now, Assistants make a glass cage every round in the bar, Pete and Pun Pun are locked inside, placing bets on who wins.
already expecting this with chickens but that works too
Wait, literal cock fighting? hell yes!
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:37 pm
by PKPenguin321
Lumbermancer wrote:lumipharon wrote:Let monkeys use guns again. Seriously pulling a trigger is not a complex thing to do. If they can do it in planet of the apes, they should be able to do it in ss13.
holy fuck lmao
this video alone is reason enough to give monkeys guns imo
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:01 am
by Davidchan
lumipharon wrote:Let monkeys use guns again. Seriously pulling a trigger is not a complex thing to do. If they can do it in planet of the apes, they should be able to do it in ss13.
Sadly our monkeys aren't infected with a super virus that makes them extremely intelligent and evolves them to be capable of speech. Now a monkey picking up a gun and using it to bash people with a random chance of it discharging. That'd be funny.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:31 am
by Cheimon
Going by the Planet of the Apes metric, I look forward to seeing monkeys learn to time travel and change the species of significant past politicians.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:43 am
by Ezel
Ape poeple when?
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:39 am
by Lumbermancer
They're called people.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:33 am
by The Ultimate Chimera
Ezel wrote:Ape poeple when?
Never.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:06 pm
by Lumbermancer
Take a stance now.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 11:51 am
by Lumbermancer
Here's your BZ use, it would make monkeys chimp out and go apeshit
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:57 pm
by FantasticFwoosh
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:04 pm
by ShadowDimentio
ShadowDimentio wrote:Goon did this, and now whenever you try to perform the ~secret monkey technique~ the monkey's innate bloodrage awakens and tries to murder you.
And guess what we have that Goon doesn't? Xenobio. Guess what xenobio does all day? Abuse monkeys.
Don't.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:44 pm
by Lumbermancer
Just sedate monkeys with n2o beforehand you twit.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 6:03 pm
by ShadowDimentio
>That much extra work every time someone wants to grab a monkey
Literal retardation
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:49 pm
by Dagdammit
Just have monkeys work like cucoos in Zelda.
Re: Give monkeys sense of self-preservation - Revenge of Pun
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:33 am
by PKPenguin321
Dagdammit wrote:Just have monkeys work like cucoos in Zelda.
fund it
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