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Improve cryo cells

Postby Thundercoot » Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:29 am #166824

The temperature of someone in a set-up cryo cell will slowly reach about -3.15 degrees within 20 seconds, just enough for cryoxadone to have any effect at all.
A freezing shower brings you down to -177 degrees in a couple of seconds, enough for cryoxadone to be most effective, and in the next 20 seconds you or your patient will be almost fully healed, having only some burns from the freezing water which will heal thanks to the cryoxadone.
Cold showers do have their drawbacks as they don't automatically give cryoxadone and will deal burn damage. However, cryo cells need to be as good, or better, at cooling people down so that they are useful.

Cryo cells should start off being very good at quickly freezing people as if they were our current cryo cells with full upgrades. Upgrades would instead focus on reducing recovery times (as they do now) and could offer new healing benefits to cryo, such as bandaging bleeding, removing embedded objects automatically and/or preventing overdosing with the cell beaker's chemicals.



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Re: Improve cryo cells

Postby Ezel » Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:31 pm #166829

ever tried jumping in space with cyro and oxygen and a firesuit?
also works
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Re: Improve cryo cells

Postby Scott » Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:42 pm #166832

They should freeze you instantly or almost instantly, but take some time to warm up back to room temperature.

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Re: Improve cryo cells

Postby Super Aggro Crag » Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:42 pm #166849

I asked them to fix cryo 8 times but they don't listen.
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Re: Improve cryo cells

Postby Cobby » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:09 pm #166869

you stick someone in cryo for the reagent multiply, you use showers [or space] for the cooling.

If you put salbu in the cryo mix you won't even have to worry about them dying from O2 dep.
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Re: Improve cryo cells

Postby Zilenan91 » Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:42 pm #166959

ExcessiveCobblestone wrote:you stick someone in cryo for the reagent multiply, you use showers [or space] for the cooling.

If you put salbu in the cryo mix you won't even have to worry about them dying from O2 dep.


Thing is though, it takes so long for people to cool down in cryo that's it's less efficient than sticking them in a shower for a reagent that's already easy as piss to make in the first place. I legitimately don't see why people hate cryo so much, it very badly needs to be fixed.
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Re: Improve cryo cells

Postby Super Aggro Crag » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:08 am #166968

if a med doctor doesn't set up quickcryo at the start of the round by wrenching the metastation shower/viro shower to cold then he's a bad med doctor because cryo is fucking doo doo poos at this point
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Re: Improve cryo cells

Postby kazeespada » Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:03 am #167228

The thing is I looked at the code, and cryo uses #realism, using heat capacity and shit to determine body temperature. Cold showers? Simple subtraction!
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Re: Improve cryo cells

Postby DemonFiren » Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:48 am #167237

Obviously, make cold showers realistic.
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Re: Improve cryo cells

Postby PKPenguin321 » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:39 pm #167388

DemonFiren wrote:Obviously, make cold showers realistic.


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Re: Improve cryo cells

Postby Cobby » Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:10 am #167401

If you make showers R E A L I S T I C then you'd just force people using space cryo [which would be funny], meaning you're indirectly feeding into memeculture

+1 to that suggestion tbh.
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Re: Improve cryo cells

Postby lumipharon » Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:09 am #167464

Just fix cryo. It used to not be retarded and shit.

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Re: Improve cryo cells

Postby Zilenan91 » Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:57 pm #167613

Yeah I tried cryo yesterday

It does L I T E R A L L Y F U C K I N G N O T H I N G
Takes like 2 minutes to heal a dude who just got cloned in cryo
Takes 20 seconds to heal a guy with a cold shower and cryox
Both use roughly the same amount of reagents

I legitimately don't know why people would say cryo is in a good spot right now
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Re: Improve cryo cells

Postby Super Aggro Crag » Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:48 am #167651

Zilenan91 wrote:Yeah I tried cryo yesterday

It does L I T E R A L L Y F U C K I N G N O T H I N G
Takes like 2 minutes to heal a dude who just got cloned in cryo
Takes 20 seconds to heal a guy with a cold shower and cryox
Both use roughly the same amount of reagents

I legitimately don't know why people would say cryo is in a good spot right now

because they're badcoders who say "JUST THROWING A GUY IN CRYO IS TOO EASY A SOLUTION FOR EVERYTHING, MEDBAY NEEDS TO BE MORE NUANCED" when 50 unit instaheal stypic/silver sulf patches exist. the only thing cryo does now is cure clone loss and its even shit at that. If you need to heal a critical patient its better to epinephrine them in the sleeper and smash the window into chemistry to make patches.
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Re: Improve cryo cells

Postby RandomMarine » Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:52 am #167653

Reminder that both the cryo cells themselves and the freezer can be upgraded to make things quicker.

Although this is irrelevant for clone damage, since if R&D has the parts they should already have the clone pod itself upgraded.

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Re: Improve cryo cells

Postby Super Aggro Crag » Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:57 am #167654

>R&D
>Upgrading anything but the ORM and their own mechs

cmon
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Re: Improve cryo cells

Postby Topham » Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:33 am #167710

Until we come to a decision on how to fix this shitstain, we should throw a shower in Box's medbay. I can probably do this myself tomorrow, come to think of it.
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Re: Improve cryo cells

Postby Luke Cox » Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:47 am #167713

Super Aggro Crag wrote:>R&D
>Upgrading anything but the ORM and their own mechs

cmon

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Re: Improve cryo cells

Postby Super Aggro Crag » Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:38 pm #167766

Topham wrote:Until we come to a decision on how to fix this shitstain, we should throw a shower in Box's medbay. I can probably do this myself tomorrow, come to think of it.

thank you superlative ham
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Re: Improve cryo cells

Postby Davidchan » Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:28 pm #167769

Coderbus plz.

I don't know if cryo being fucked over was a bug or intentional, but it's needed a fix for months now. I'd understand if it was harder for the freezer to work, but needing nearly a minute to just get someone down to 172k or what ever the magic number for it to start working is ridiculous, it should happen within 5-10 seconds, especially since their temperature restarts at 320k if they are removed and placed back in for any reason.
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Re: Improve cryo cells

Postby Super Aggro Crag » Thu Apr 14, 2016 9:23 pm #168682

THANK YOU BAWHOPPEN
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Re: Improve cryo cells

Postby Topham » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:34 am #168721

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Re: Improve cryo cells

Postby newfren » Fri Apr 15, 2016 8:49 am #168782

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Re: Improve cryo cells

Postby Bawhoppennn » Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:41 am #168803

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