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Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 2:12 am
by BeeSting12
They're annoying and OP. One greytider can kill a bunch of innocent people just by being stupid and throwing something at a shocked grille.

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 2:13 am
by Alarmclock
Yep they are stupid.

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 10:36 am
by Actionb
Utilizing shocked grilles is a staple of the robust gentleman.
Only cremating people via shocked vending machines has more style.

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 12:38 am
by Armhulen
weird that only grilles do it, really. Should we remove it? prolly, yes.

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 1:01 am
by Bawhoppennn
>people still complaining about tesla grilles

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 2:18 am
by BeeSting12
From what I can tell, they're not that popular. I don't know why anyone would want them. Also, never seen someone use them in a robust way besides a nuke op who blew himself up and the limbs hit a grille, shocking the guy who killed him to death.

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 2:29 am
by PKPenguin321
BeeSting12 wrote:Also, never seen someone use them in a robust way besides a nuke op who blew himself up and the limbs hit a grille, shocking the guy who killed him to death.
that's fucking amazing

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 2:32 am
by Armhulen
I'd be fucking pissed

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 3:04 pm
by Anonmare
Should only shock the person who throws something at it tbh

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 3:18 pm
by Atlanta-Ned
Anonmare wrote:Should only shock the person who throws something at it tbh
Why are other people being punished for someone doing something stupid?

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 3:28 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
because the coders think it's funny

if you stand 4 tiles away it doesn't even shock the person who threw it, i use it to grief hoplines by smashing the window and firing a pneumo cannon of paper at the grille to fry everyone.

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 3:54 pm
by Davidchan
Super Aggro Crag wrote:because the coders think it's funny

if you stand 4 tiles away it doesn't even shock the person who threw it, i use it to grief hoplines by smashing the window and firing a pneumo cannon of paper at the grille to fry everyone.
Basically the only thing its good for is grief.

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 6:25 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
this is the third thread by my reckoning about this. i made the first one because i was ticked it wasn't in the changelog because "hrrr just check da git when he add in huge new changes to da gameplay :^)"

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 7:37 pm
by PKPenguin321
Atlanta-Ned wrote:
Anonmare wrote:Should only shock the person who throws something at it tbh
Why are other people being punished for someone doing something stupid?
this is the spirit of ss13
engineers fucked up containment? station-eating singulo.
science slipped up in toxins? science is now a plasma fire.
some chucklefuck in atmos opened the wrong pump when setting the turbine up? the whole station is now a plasma fire.

not to mention it doesn't always have to be accidental. stuff like this being used against you intentionally is part of what makes this game unique.

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 8:09 pm
by Not-Dorsidarf
Need to escape? Fuck your knowledge you need glove or die

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 8:09 pm
by Drynwyn
Not-Dorsidarf wrote:Need to escape? Fuck your knowledge you need glove or die
Or to throw a thing from more than 4 tiles away

Or to attack the grille with a Noconduct item

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 8:13 pm
by Not-Dorsidarf
Drynwyn wrote:
Not-Dorsidarf wrote:Need to escape? Fuck your knowledge you need glove or die
Or to throw a thing from more than 4 tiles away

Or to attack the grille with a Noconduct item
Many things (like o2 tanks) can't be thrown more than 3 tiles. Often there is no room to throw 3 tiles. Glass shards are more or less the only nonconducting items and hurt you on use.

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 8:19 pm
by PKPenguin321
oh no a whole 5 brute on my left arm im dead glass shards op


edit: you dont even take any damage if you're wearing ANY gloves, even fingerless ones or latex ones

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 9:46 pm
by BeeSting12
It just feels wrong that anyone besides the greytider gets killed for the greytider's actions. Maybe make it only affect the moron who threw it as anonmare said

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 10:57 pm
by Saegrimr
I'm not sure why you think some "random greytider" is going to be sticking around for long if he just killed a line full of people as a nonantag.

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 11:00 pm
by Reece
Yeah, there's a difference between being a shithead and blatantly breaking the rules, greytiding is breaking into engineering to nick the gloves, not setting the bloody singularity loose. I actually like tesla grilles, they make the station more dangerous, which feels like the whole point.

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 11:02 pm
by paprika
Saegrimr wrote:I'm not sure why you think some "random greytider" is going to be sticking around for long if he just killed a line full of people as a nonantag.
le admins will just ban him meme

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 2:32 am
by lumipharon
There's a difference between interesing, dangerous features and getting 1 sheet of metal and a wire and making an infinite death rape machine with it.

It's basically an electric fence - you touch it and it zaps you. Now, something touches it, it sends FUCKHUGE energy balls everywhere to pound the face of anyone unfortunate enough to dare stand next to a window.
If that's what an electrified grille does, touching a live wire should just ash you.

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 2:17 pm
by Saegrimr
CosmicScientist wrote:BRB, inserting dust() on wire touch.
Only above 2 mil power or something.

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 3:38 pm
by Armhulen
Saegrimr wrote:
CosmicScientist wrote:BRB, inserting dust() on wire touch.
Only above 2 mil power or something.
teach those damn rats

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 6:52 pm
by Wyzack
Saegrimr wrote:
CosmicScientist wrote:BRB, inserting dust() on wire touch.
Only above 2 mil power or something.
This is actually a fun idea, someone do it

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 9:29 pm
by Ezel
PKPenguin321 wrote:oh no a whole 5 brute on my left arm im dead glass shards op


edit: you dont even take any damage if you're wearing ANY gloves, even fingerless ones or latex ones
And since clothesvendor is a infinite source of gloves

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 9:32 pm
by BeeSting12
It doesn't even make sense that touching the grill gives you a minor shock while throwing something at it shocks everyone within a three tile radius, killing them. I know this is 2D spessmens and we don't strive for realism, but that's ridiculous.

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 9:39 pm
by lumipharon
BeeSting12 wrote:It doesn't even make sense that touching the grill gives you a minor shock while throwing something at it shocks everyone within a three tile radius, killing them. I know this is 2D spessmens and we don't strive for realism, but that's ridiculous.
Pretty much this. It's a meme change that's simply completely inconsistant with how electricity works in the rest of the game.

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 4:23 pm
by DrPillzRedux
For the love of all that is tide


GET RID OF THIS SHIT

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 8:25 pm
by ThanatosRa
Leave them in. The salt sustains me.

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 8:26 pm
by WarbossLincoln
Saegrimr wrote:
CosmicScientist wrote:BRB, inserting dust() on wire touch.
Only above 2 mil power or something.

As a drone one time I 'upgraded' the power net, smes, everything I could involving the engine. The station had a shitload of power but I think some grey tiders had a bad time on the other end cutting the wrong wire.

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 8:41 pm
by ShadowDimentio
Goonstation actually does a thing where if there's enough power in the systems doors straight up ash you.

Wearing gloves doesn't save you either

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 8:50 pm
by ThanatosRa
ShadowDimentio wrote:Goonstation actually does a thing where if there's enough power in the systems doors straight up ash you.

Wearing gloves doesn't save you either
Makes me miss engineering and wiring the singularity straight to the mains.

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 11:45 pm
by kevinz000
Stop whining and git gud.

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 12:12 am
by DrPillzRedux
kevinz000 wrote:Stop whining and git gud.
>run down bridge hallway
>pass by an assistant who hits a bridge grille
>get oneshotted because of a shitter fucking around

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 12:16 am
by lumipharon
>breaking a window now causes explosive decompression and near instantly spaces and kills anyone in the room
Git gud

>An airlock closing on you now gibs you as a real airlock has sufficient force to completely crush a human body
git gud

>getting shot now has a chance to hit a key artery or important internal organ, resulting in instant or rapid death
git gud


Making things super lethal for no particular reason is not fun, it's memetastic shittery, especially when it's literally inconsistant with the same mechanics everywhere else in the game.

I am all for having any electric shock ash you if engineering have wired in their quintuple supermatter engine into the grid or whatever, but it makes absolutely zero sense that every electric shock in the game zaps on touch, while grilles (when thrown at, but not touched??) cause FUCKHUGE energy balls to fly around the room raping people.

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 12:34 am
by Saegrimr
lumipharon wrote: >An airlock closing on you now gibs you as a real airlock has sufficient force to completely crush a human body
git gud
For real though I think the airlock safeties should just be off by default so assnuggets stop standing in doorways, and gives some plausible deniability to rogue AIs doorcrushing people.

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 1:16 am
by BeeSting12
Anyone saying "git gud", get out. You have no valuable input to add to this thread. When you feel like you can give a legit reason other than "git gud" for why this should not be removed, come back. I'm all for stopping greytide(the reason this was added, I think), but this can instakill people just walking by.

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 5:41 am
by DemonFiren
lol git gud

Re: Remove Tesla Grilles

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 5:16 pm
by Armhulen
lol git gud