New movement mode for digitrade legged lizards

[Saul_Myers]

Here's my shitty idea.
Lizards with digitrade legs and empty hands can run on all fours
What it gives:
The good: speed boost. I'm thinking maybe 1.5x-1.7x, maybe 2x (but 2x might be just too overpowered)
The bad: Lizards smash into walls and airlocks if they fail to stop before hitting one, dealing minor damage to head with a chance of knockout and concussion (brain damage). Also they can't open airlocks in this mode. Hands become "busy" and they can't use them.
The other bad: One more reason to call lizards dirty animals ("Have you heard? Liggers are walking on all fours. I thought animals belong in the zoo, HONK"); Lizards hurting themselves
Picture for reference.

Discuss, please.

[Sweaterkittens]

Balance and mechanics aside, this is almost impossible to implement due to spriting issues. Every single piece of wearable clothing and gear would need to be resprited for crawling lizards, in addition to every new piece of gear that's added later.

[Saul_Myers]

Balance and mechanics aside, this is almost impossible to implement due to spriting issues. Every single piece of wearable clothing and gear would need to be resprited for crawling lizards, in addition to every new piece of gear that's added later.

Almost impossible you say...

I'll try to come up with workaround.

[Wyzack]

I honestly wouldn't bother. Aside from the massive spriting and maintenance ballache this would be there would be a fucking huge controversy over giving more snowflake power shit to lizards, especially digitigrade lizards, regardless of whatever downsides it carries

[Saul_Myers]

I honestly wouldn't bother. Aside from the massive spriting and maintenance ballache this would be there would be a fucking huge controversy over giving more snowflake power shit to lizards, especially digitigrade lizards, regardless of whatever downsides it carries

This, pretty much.

But for some reason, flaming skeletons are okay.
Add more disabilities for using that, maybe?

[TribeOfBeavers]

The general consensus seems to be that the other races should be downgrades to humans in the majority of situations, so people are pretty hesitant to buff them in any way.

Also, even minor speed boosts are super strong in this game.

[kevinz000]

The thing is movement speed is calculated in a way that decreasing your slowdown by even 1 will make you overpowered and increasing by 1 makes you unable to fight.

[D&B]

Slibbery slobe mems :-DDD

Stop buffing lizards or you'll force them to name it lizard station 13.

[Lumbermancer]

Slibbery slobe mems :-DDD.

It's not meme if it's true.

[Screemonster]

The thing is movement speed is calculated in a way that decreasing your slowdown by even 1 will make you overpowered and increasing by 1 makes you unable to fight.

that's 'cause everything's dealt with in terms of adding/subtracting rather than, say, multiplying by 1.05 or something

[kevinz000]

The thing is movement speed is calculated in a way that decreasing your slowdown by even 1 will make you overpowered and increasing by 1 makes you unable to fight.

that's 'cause everything's dealt with in terms of adding/subtracting rather than, say, multiplying by 1.05 or something

Has to do with how accurately movement delay is calculated.

[confused rock]

I don't hate liggers I hate lizard players and I need lizards to be nerfed to sleep well

[kevinz000]

Humans can move every tick/decisecond when running and once per 4 ticks when walking.
Adding 1 makes you twice as slow.
Subtracting one makes you move 2 tiles per tick/decisecond.
I say tick/decisecond because I am too lazy to find out which but the point stands.
Adding 1 halves your speed and makes combat impossible while subtracting 1 makes you unable to be hit.

[iamgoofball]

WHAT DID I SAY ABOUT SLIPPERY SLOPES

[iamgoofball]

WHAT DID I SAY ABOUT SLIPPERY SLOPES

[Incoming]

As the progenitor of most of the not objectively terrible lizard changes:

1. Lizards are supposed to be 90% cosmetic differences, they are not supposed to be dramatically different in terms of gameplay like how plasmamen are.
2. The snowflake is there intentionally to draw up ire, the legs are to out people who are so snowflake that they'd take a strategic loss to look different. They are also there to look nice of course.
3. None of the weird sex stuff is canon, stop it >:(.

[D&B]

Slibbery slobe mems :-DDD.

It's not meme if it's true.

I know it's true, I just wanted to beat goof in saying it.

[MrEousTranger]

He literally made an account just to spout his shitty idea.

The fuck

[iamgoofball]

He literally made an account just to spout his shitty idea.

The fuck

We call this a gimmick alt

[D&B]

Aren't those the lihzard sprites from terraria?

[confused rock]

As the progenitor of most of the not objectively terrible lizard changes:

the only lizard change I can remember you doing is adding digitigrades and the rectangle lizards what the fuck

Aren't those the lihzard sprites from terraria?

yea those are the same lizards who made a jew golem

[Weepo]

This is stupid and hard.

[captain sawrge]

WHAT DID I SAY ABOUT SLIPPERY SLOPES

you are retard

[Armhulen]

this isn't a bad idea

this is the worst idea, ever

[D&B]

The shed beckons

[Lumbermancer]

I'll believe that if this or another snowflake change gets through since slippery slopes are only visible

September 7th 2014 I said that if you make Lizards available as a race for everyone it will inevitably lead to another gimmick races. It's three years later and you can be a Plasma Person, a Fly Person (from setup), Lizard Person. And here we are discussing another flavor of Lizard.

We had pod people in botany, but I think slime people were added later.

In other words, we are way down the slippery slope and accelerating quickly.

[Bombadil]

I'll believe that if this or another snowflake change gets through since slippery slopes are only visible

September 7th 2014 I said that if you make Lizards available as a race for everyone it will inevitably lead to another gimmick races. It's three years later and you can be a Plasma Person, a Fly Person (from setup), Lizard Person. And here we are discussing another flavor of Lizard.

We had pod people in botany, but I think slime people were added later.

In other words, we are way down the slippery slope and accelerating quickly.

Slime people were a thing as far back as metroids. I mean it had to be applied by an admin but you could become a metroid person they became jelly people now iirc. Plant people got a radical expansion of look because before you used to look like a fucking potato with a green humanoid body. Also its 2 years and 4 months dingus.

[Lumbermancer]

it had to be applied by an admin

So were lizards. And fly person was a teleporting accident.

[captain sawrge]

and yet the majority still play as humans so who fucking cares

[Wyzack]

and yet the majority still play as humans so who fucking cares

Dammit sawrge the people need something to be outraged about

[captain sawrge]

out of all the mutantraces being whined about only one of them hasnt been in the game for like 4 years already

[Weepo]

Lizards used to be a thing that nuke-ops could be since it made it impossible for them to sneak. That was cool.