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Please give engineering an early warning system

Post by Oldman Robustin » #251550

Engine is the biggest fucking antag in this game and its getting released WAY too often. Not even intentionally. Give it a system like the supermatter for the emitters/SMES/containment if they are incomplete or losing power, and it announces over Engi Radio.

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Post by Super Aggro Crag » #251664

Whitelist engineering when?
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Post by Weepo » #251678

I'm for it, anything for early warning that isn't SINGLOOSE SHUTTLE CALL
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Post by XDTM » #251699

I would even make releasing the engine require an equivalent of the nuke disk, it's hugely destructive for how easy it is to release.
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Post by D&B » #251731

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Post by Davidchan » #251749

You could easily remove engineering as a job and barely notice.
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Re: Please give engineering an early warning system

Post by Aloraydrel » #251763

Just check on it every 10 minutes not everything needs a hugbox alarm
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Re: Please give engineering an early warning system

Post by Oldman Robustin » #251776

What magical game are you playing where 10m checkups are sufficient to prevent a release.

95% of the crew doesnt have engine access and would be denied access since letting randos "check" the engine is a greeat way to have it sabotaged.
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Re: Please give engineering an early warning system

Post by CPTANT » #251799

Just replace the sing/tesla with suppermatter.
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Re: Please give engineering an early warning system

Post by Aloraydrel » #251800

Thats what the engineer/CE job is. To maintain the station and the engine :shades:
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Post by Cobby » #251817

The best answer is to just use solars because they power everything just fine.
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Post by danno » #251821

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the thing is intentionally lethal because the point of it is to get out and fuck stuff up
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Post by XDTM » #251844

Aloraydrel wrote:Thats what the engineer/CE job is. To maintain the station and the engine :shades:
A traitor engi or even CE will 100% release the engine if they feel like it, nobody's gonna stop them unless they're stupid and do it before people leave to go build autism forts.
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Post by Luke Cox » #251941

engine killed me nerf now
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Re: Please give engineering an early warning system

Post by PKPenguin321 » #251943

i remember when people actually took "CHECK THE ENGINE YOU CHUCKLEFUCKS" seriously now it's a meme and now somebody wants it automated
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Re: Please give engineering an early warning system

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30 second respawn timers next
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Re: Please give engineering an early warning system

Post by Oldman Robustin » #251983

Certain forms of sabotage will guarantee the engine gets loose, this is more to act as a check against incompetence and the lowest effort sabotage. Nobody wins when an idiot accidentally releases the Tesla 2 minutes into the round.
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Post by D&B » #252015

Deadchat does
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Re: Please give engineering an early warning system

Post by CPTANT » #252302

Sing/tesla is just boring because:

A: it is impossible to prevent someone from releasing it. (Unless of course you are completely autistic and check the emitters literally every minute because that is about how long the field lasts).

B: There is no counter play once it is released.



The engine inspires complete boredom instead of it's supposed terror.
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Post by Tokiko2 » #252303

You could add a machine that repels the singulo/tesla away from the station. To balance the added safety, you could also add a way to hack it in order to attract tesla/singulos instead of repeling it.
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Post by AnonymousNow » #252312

It's a difficult balance, because yes, the singularity should get out and fuck things up every so often, especially if it's intentionally released, but the number of rounds that it escapes because of engineering incompetence and ends those rounds is too damn high.
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Re: Please give engineering an early warning system

Post by Dagdammit » #253411

Automated warnings on engineering channel when emitters that were switched on go offline due to power outage, or when the relevant APC falls below 20% charge. Multiple ways for a saboteur to work either.
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Post by Steelpoint » #253413

The game lets you lock down emitters and similar, why not code it so if someone unlocks a emitter then a warning is sent to the Chief Engineer.

This incentivises you to remember to lock you're stuff down, but also allows a way for antagonists to better get away with sabotage by either hoping for engineering incompetence or by taking out the CE (or at least his head set)
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Post by Screemonster » #253438

Allow engineers to build "canary beacons". Fluff is that you turn them on and they have some radio ping that the telecomms server listens for. Once paired with the telecomms server and activated, the telecomms server will issue an alert a short time after it fails to receive a signal, something like "Canary failure in <location>".

Park some next to the containment field and they'll be the first things to get destroyed in a containment failure. Can set them up near potential bombing targets too.
If they need power, then you'll be alarted when equipment power fails.

tl;dr, you want an early warning system? Build one.
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Post by CPTANT » #253560

Steelpoint wrote:The game lets you lock down emitters and similar, why not code it so if someone unlocks a emitter then a warning is sent to the Chief Engineer.

This incentivises you to remember to lock you're stuff down, but also allows a way for antagonists to better get away with sabotage by either hoping for engineering incompetence or by taking out the CE (or at least his head set)
Not really useful because people just cut the wires.
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Re: Please give engineering an early warning system

Post by Steelpoint » #253561

Outplayed.

(Or just warn that power is draining)
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Re: Please give engineering an early warning system

Post by Tokiko2 » #255473

On a second thought, why not try porting goons power transmission laser instead? Maybe then engineers would have an actual reason to stay in engineering and optimize/expand the engine instead of wandering off.
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Post by cocothegogo » #255936

the replies in this thread are laughable get a grip
Oldman Robustin wrote:Certain forms of sabotage will guarantee the engine gets loose, this is more to act as a check against incompetence and the lowest effort sabotage. Nobody wins when an idiot accidentally releases the Tesla 2 minutes into the round.
make a machine like the one for announcing people coming to the station but for engineering so if you destroy that no more announcements, that means sabotage is still a good tactic and idiots cant pretend they let it out on "accident"
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