/tg/Station 13

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:39 pm**

Basically, a fusion engine that is dangerous as fuck and tedious as fuck to maintain, but if maintained correctly, lets you get massive amounts of power.
the only problem is i have no idea how it works because i havn't found a single wiki entry on how it works.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:40 pm**

kevinz000 wrote:if maintained correctly, lets you get massive amounts of power.

this is meaningless, power is essentially binary at this point, you have it or you don't.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:42 pm**

Remie Richards wrote:
kevinz000 wrote:if maintained correctly, lets you get massive amounts of power.
this is meaningless, power is essentially binary at this point, you have it or you don't.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:47 pm**

Kor wrote:
Remie Richards wrote:
kevinz000 wrote:if maintained correctly, lets you get massive amounts of power.
this is meaningless, power is essentially binary at this point, you have it or you don't.

Fuck, I guess I shouldn't of abandoned porting the power transmission laser..?

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:59 pm**

Yeah, bring back the PTL and this. Also give engineering a small aux engine room specifically for sm/rust engines.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:20 pm**

No more engines tbh, we have plenty

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:01 pm**

We need an entire power refactor before thinking about a new engine(so it actually matters instead of being have/not have power).

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:13 pm**

Right now the only effect power production has is how fast the SMES fill. Even that's trivial with how much power the tesla puts out.

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:11 am**

Eh yeah this is all true.
Wish we had something to put excess power into...

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:14 am**

Death ray coming when?

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:35 am**

ShadowDimentio wrote:Death ray coming when?

Get me 6x3 directional sprites.

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:40 am**

Perhaps we should brainstorm some power sinks first (the non-syndicate kind).

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:01 am**

engineering as a whole needs to be overhauled, probably mostly from scratch (barebones stuff like construction, engines can stay)

whole department is essentially deprecated at this point, essentially useless and almost worthless for survival in most rounds, when they should be as important as security in preventing everyone from dying a horrible death of decompression, overcompression, freezing to death, being blown out airlocks, running out of air, having too much air, repairing breaches, etc.

all of these activities are de facto useless in current ss13.

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:23 am**

isntead replace the sigulo with a warp/chaos engine and when it fails it summons a bunch of hostile mobs or a bubblegum or something

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:24 am**

>Replace the singulo

Get the fuck out of this server. HERETIC!

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:32 am**

Cik wrote:engineering as a whole needs to be overhauled, probably mostly from scratch (barebones stuff like construction, engines can stay)

whole department is essentially deprecated at this point, essentially useless and almost worthless for survival in most rounds, when they should be as important as security in preventing everyone from dying a horrible death of decompression, overcompression, freezing to death, being blown out airlocks, running out of air, having too much air, repairing breaches, etc.

all of these activities are de facto useless in current ss13.

ZAS which isn't happening.

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:41 am**

max power generated / total power generated stats would be fun

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:10 am**

Luke Cox wrote:Perhaps we should brainstorm some power sinks first (the non-syndicate kind).

I've suggested being able to alter SMES' to be able to function like a power sink. Like, cutting some wires to isolate a department, hook it up to a SMES you built in an out of the way area and set it to drain the APCs in a department dry.

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:13 am**

ShadowDimentio wrote:>Replace the singulo

Get the fuck out of this server. HERETIC!

megafauna are basically the same as singulo but you can fight it so its more fun

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:08 am**

You can't turn an ash drake into fuel for the station you fool.

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:13 am**

We need to improve the current power system here's a small idea that would help a lot

Console in the SMES room that displays current power draw from the power grid so you know how much power you need to be outputting, the amount of power outputting, the peak power draw for the shift, and the average power draw for the shift

Then make a bunch of machines like cryo tubes and microwaves and auto/protolathes and cloners and botanys gene machine take more significant amounts power when used so if engineering is outputting bare minimum power to meet the average and then somebody turns on a microwave while somebody is being cloned then bam brief short range power outage

Make it happen gamers

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:17 am**

ShadowDimentio wrote:You can't turn an ash drake into fuel for the station you fool.

heat power is a thing irl though?

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:32 am**

Stop insulting my codebase by calling it /VG/ you TG era ass mofo.

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:31 pm**

Do we need more dangerous as fuck engines?

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:46 pm**

There is such a thing as a stupid question after all.

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:04 pm**

Lumbermancer wrote:Do we need more dangerous as fuck engines?

Not until what pk says or something else happens so we have somewhere for the power to go otherwise you just have millions of watts sitting there doing nothing.

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:09 pm**

Then why not low power, low threat, high maintenance. This way engineers have to do things or risk getting lynched. Without blowing up the station.

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:24 pm**

Lumbermancer wrote:Then why not low power, low threat, high maintenance. This way engineers have to do things or risk getting lynched. Without blowing up the station.

Tell that to the singularity...

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:49 pm**

Lumbermancer wrote:Then why not low power, low threat, high maintenance. This way engineers have to do things or risk getting lynched. Without blowing up the station.

It's called solars. But seriously, would YOU enjoy being bound to tedious maintenance on the engine the entire shift? The current engines are fine we just need something to use all the energy for.

Idea: Laser Automated Defense System (LADS)

Attached to engineering, this marvel of science requires some work to put together and maintain, but once it's complete there are plenty of uses for it including destroying invasive ships, incoming asteroids, mining on lavaland, and destroying megafauna.

Warning: Emagging the system disengages the safeties that prevent it from firing on the station. Keep syndicates away!

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:37 pm**

PKPenguin321 wrote: Then make a bunch of machines like cryo tubes and microwaves and auto/protolathes and cloners and botanys gene machine take more significant amounts power when used so if engineering is outputting bare minimum power to meet the average and then somebody turns on a microwave while somebody is being cloned then bam brief short range power outage

Make it happen gamers

This seems like the best approach to me. It seems a little silly that they're about as significant as lightbulbs in terms of how much power they require. Medical and Science especially should be gigantic power sinks, which could serve as a pretty major nerf to science too. Perhaps engineering could have a console that allows them to cut off power to individual departments until they can meet the demand, which could also make for some fun traitoring.

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:25 am**

While I do like the R-UST engine it is basically just a complicated Super matter chamber to heat gas for the TEG.

http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/R-UST

In and of itself its a fine engine and decently fun to play with. But with set and forget engines like Singulo and Tesla in the game R-UST just doesn't have much of a place since it actually requires a fair bit of maintaining. And as already stated, making more than 300kW of power is pointless unless you're trying to overload the grid, which any of the other engines can already do.

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:26 pm**

ShadowDimentio wrote: would YOU enjoy being bound to tedious maintenance on the engine the entire shift?!

It could be as easy as pushing a button on the collector regularly.

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:15 pm**

Lumbermancer wrote:
ShadowDimentio wrote: would YOU enjoy being bound to tedious maintenance on the engine the entire shift?!
It could be as easy as pushing a button on the collector regularly.

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:37 pm**

I still maintain the idea that porting the PTL would give engineers a use for creating and maintaining powerful engines. It's a laser that uses up all the unused extra energy that engineering creates, and then beams it off station for credits depending on the amount sent. You could still expand this later on with ideas from this thread, like the ability to point the PTL away from the collector station and instead aim at an anti meteor satelite that needs large amounts of power to operate.

As for the engine, I want to point out that you will likely need to redo the current TEG in the code if you were to add this new engine. Our TEG has a lot of issues, like creating infinite amounts of energy using R&D heaters&freezers or breaking atmos occasionally.

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:40 pm**

There's nothing to do with credits.

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:49 pm**

Lumbermancer wrote:There's nothing to do with credits.

Can't you buy crates in cargo with credits? I'm sure cargo would be very interested in buying extra engine parts for engineering if they were getting extra points from their department.

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:44 pm**

But that's just spending credits to make credits.

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:35 pm**

Honestly I should of titled the thread how to make engineering not the most boring department next to medical. No offence if you disagree but these are my opinions. They need more features to be more fun.

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:12 pm**

Glad you're aware it's all opinion considering the fact that I find medical one of the more interesting departments

I'm a big fuckin' softie tho and I get my kicks from saving other people

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:20 pm**

Qbopper wrote:Glad you're aware it's all opinion considering the fact that I find medical one of the more interesting departments

I'm a big fuckin' softie tho and I get my kicks from saving other people

Medical rework soon(tm)

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:29 pm**

Qbopper wrote:Glad you're aware it's all opinion considering the fact that I find medical one of the more interesting departments

I'm a big fuckin' softie tho and I get my kicks from saving other people

>push button
>magic healing chems come out
>most interesting

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:32 pm**

Qbopper wrote:I'm a big fuckin' softie tho and I get my kicks from saving other people

[youtube]IdHTnpgpLDc[/youtube]

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:44 pm**

ShadowDimentio wrote:>Replace the singulo

Get the fuck out of this server. HERETIC!

the singulo has been shit for 90% of its lifespan

it literally and figuratively sucks

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:16 pm**

the singulo is exactly like you, then
still iconic and shouldn't go

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:23 pm**

DemonFiren wrote:the singulo is exactly like you, then
still iconic and shouldn't go

>unfun round derailing piece of shit
>its good and shouldnt be replaced because nostalgia!
i knew you were stupid but not this stupid

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:44 pm**

i mean by that logic we might as well remove players

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:57 pm**

H E L L F I R E
E N G I N E

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:39 pm**

captain sawrge wrote:
Qbopper wrote:Glad you're aware it's all opinion considering the fact that I find medical one of the more interesting departments

I'm a big fuckin' softie tho and I get my kicks from saving other people
>push button
>magic healing chems come out
>most interesting

did you not fucking read the "all opinion" part

Believe it or not I find medical interesting

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:44 pm**

DemonFiren wrote:i mean by that logic we might as well remove players

I'm only one man. I can do only so much.

Posted: **Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:16 am**

Qbopper wrote:
captain sawrge wrote:
Qbopper wrote:Glad you're aware it's all opinion considering the fact that I find medical one of the more interesting departments

I'm a big fuckin' softie tho and I get my kicks from saving other people
>push button
>magic healing chems come out
>most interesting
did you not fucking read the "all opinion" part

Believe it or not I find medical interesting

It isn't all opinion though, it's objectively shallow gameplay.
It's all fine and good if you enjoy it but that doesn't really excuse it.

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