[HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
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[HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
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Banning admin: HotelBravoLima
Ban type (What are you banned from?): Server 1, 2 and #supportbus
Ban reason and length: "Warned to stay out of OOC if he's just going to sit on the lobby, as he has been many times before by other admins. Refuses to listen, so. Uh. Yeah. You can't say you weren't warned, fam."
Time ban was placed (including time zone): 2015-10-25 23:05:17 Server time
Your side of the story: I spent the majority of my time either in the lobby or observing, And while during this I repeatedly shitposted in OOC, deadchat and adminhelps. After being warned multiple times and banned twice (First for one day, next for two days) I eventually got permabanned by HBL.
I then got banned from IRC and the Forums for being a dick to a certain player in IRC, but the forum ban and some of the IRC ban has since been lessened.
Why you think you should be unbanned: I was a unhelpful arrogant cunt, and refused to listen to anybody (even when I was distrupting/ruining the rounds of admins and players alike). I believe I can actually play the game well (As I've actually never been banned for IC actions, even when I did play) and won't fuck with people OOC.
I don't mind if admins impose additional restrictions/probations either.
Can I please have a second chance? I just want to play spacemens again.
Banning admin: HotelBravoLima
Ban type (What are you banned from?): Server 1, 2 and #supportbus
Ban reason and length: "Warned to stay out of OOC if he's just going to sit on the lobby, as he has been many times before by other admins. Refuses to listen, so. Uh. Yeah. You can't say you weren't warned, fam."
Time ban was placed (including time zone): 2015-10-25 23:05:17 Server time
Your side of the story: I spent the majority of my time either in the lobby or observing, And while during this I repeatedly shitposted in OOC, deadchat and adminhelps. After being warned multiple times and banned twice (First for one day, next for two days) I eventually got permabanned by HBL.
I then got banned from IRC and the Forums for being a dick to a certain player in IRC, but the forum ban and some of the IRC ban has since been lessened.
Why you think you should be unbanned: I was a unhelpful arrogant cunt, and refused to listen to anybody (even when I was distrupting/ruining the rounds of admins and players alike). I believe I can actually play the game well (As I've actually never been banned for IC actions, even when I did play) and won't fuck with people OOC.
I don't mind if admins impose additional restrictions/probations either.
Can I please have a second chance? I just want to play spacemens again.
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
I feel like this appeal is way too soon.
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
I feel like a probation would be worth it here. Even though they've been a shitler, it seems like they are genuinely sorry about it now.
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
hahahahaha nope
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
You haven't changed punnches. Pls stay gone.
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
You've barely been gone for two months and all you do is shitpost on singulo about how awful everything is.
JUDICATOR REDEMPTION ARC
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
I'm pretty sure that we agreed a while ago that singulo does not actually count for any ban appeal/request.Docprofsmith wrote:You've barely been gone for two months and all you do is shitpost on singulo about how awful everything is.
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
Who is "we" here? Considering it shows you obviously haven't changed, I think it's perfectly valid to bring upPunnches wrote:I'm pretty sure that we agreed a while ago that singulo does not actually count for any ban appeal/request.Docprofsmith wrote:You've barely been gone for two months and all you do is shitpost on singulo about how awful everything is.
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
"We" as in a bunch of people around the start of 2015. Pretty sure it was pretty big.Shaps wrote:Who is "we" here? Considering it shows you obviously haven't changed, I think it's perfectly valid to bring upPunnches wrote:I'm pretty sure that we agreed a while ago that singulo does not actually count for any ban appeal/request.Docprofsmith wrote:You've barely been gone for two months and all you do is shitpost on singulo about how awful everything is.
Why exactly do my posts on singulo matter? What do they entail, exactly? 99% of them are jokes.
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
Alright then.
Let's say you go into a place of business. You get banned from the establishment for whatever reason.
You then proceed to go to a nearby bar that people who frequent the business also frequent, and spend two months talking about how shit the business is to everyone who will listen, and those who don't listen.
After those two months you then proceed to go back to the business and beg to be allowed back in, claiming you've changed and that you won't do what got you kicked out in the first place.
What do you think the administration of the business you are banned from is going to say to you?
PS.
I propose the "everything I said was just a joke!!!" excuse be declared as valid as "My brother was on my account and did this stuff" excuse.
Let's say you go into a place of business. You get banned from the establishment for whatever reason.
You then proceed to go to a nearby bar that people who frequent the business also frequent, and spend two months talking about how shit the business is to everyone who will listen, and those who don't listen.
After those two months you then proceed to go back to the business and beg to be allowed back in, claiming you've changed and that you won't do what got you kicked out in the first place.
What do you think the administration of the business you are banned from is going to say to you?
PS.
I propose the "everything I said was just a joke!!!" excuse be declared as valid as "My brother was on my account and did this stuff" excuse.
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
-double post meme-
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
I request that an actual headmin weigh in on this ASAP, and the thread be locked until said headmin weighs in.iamgoofball wrote:Alright then.
Let's say you go into a place of business. You get banned from the establishment for whatever reason.
You then proceed to go to a nearby bar that people who frequent the business also frequent, and spend two months talking about how shit the business is to everyone who will listen, and those who don't listen.
After those two months you then proceed to go back to the business and beg to be allowed back in, claiming you've changed and that you won't do what got you kicked out in the first place.
What do you think the administration of the business you are banned from is going to say to you?
PS.
I propose the "everything I said was just a joke!!!" excuse be declared as valid as "My brother was on my account and did this stuff" excuse.
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
Is that really your response? You don't have anything beneficial to reply with so you just do the cop-out "lock till headmin pls!!!"? I expected more of you.
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
...I'm just asking for a headmin to weigh in, so I can go to bed and check the thread after I wake up.iamgoofball wrote:Is that really your response? You don't have anything beneficial to reply with so you just do the cop-out "lock till headmin pls!!!"? I expected more of you.
Not everything's about you fam
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
Then why did you make sure to quote my post?
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
>Resorting to semanticsiamgoofball wrote:Then why did you make sure to quote my post?
anyway, lock until headmin weighs in pls
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
My presence has been requested specifically so I could post this
"Hitler may have killed 6 million Jews, but he sure as fucking hell saved the History channel."
"Hitler may have killed 6 million Jews, but he sure as fucking hell saved the History channel."
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
So you weren't angry at all about being banned, and 2 solid months of pretty much every post being insulting the tgstation players, admins, coders, and community as a whole was "all a joke" and not at all because you were pissed about being banned?Punnches wrote:Why exactly do my posts on singulo matter? What do they entail, exactly? 99% of them are jokes.
Come on man, at the very least you can come clean about it, makes you look more legit.
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
Punnches hasn't changed. His denial of his faults shows in more ways than any other.
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
What did he actually do besides talk too much?
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
You wanna know how many OOC posts there were in the months before got banned? I think it was something like 20000. Now Punnches talked so very very much, that he was literally 4000 of these 20000 OOC posts in total. In a chat where there are probably a couple hundred unique visitors in total, this one dude managed to make a retarded amount of posts while never even playing the game, doing all of this just sitting in the lobby.
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
i was 20,000 out of 150,000 OOC posts actually, a buddy got the logs for the entirety of 2015 and checkedZilenan91 wrote:You wanna know how many OOC posts there were in the months before got banned? I think it was something like 20000. Now Punnches talked so very very much, that he was literally 4000 of these 20000 OOC posts in total. In a chat where there are probably a couple hundred unique visitors in total, this one dude managed to make a retarded amount of posts while never even playing the game, doing all of this just sitting in the lobby.
is it impossible for you people to realise i've changed
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
Oh my god it's so much worse than I thought
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
You've provided 0 evidence that you've changed so far, so yes, it is impossible to "realise" you've changed.Punnches wrote:is it impossible for you people to realise i've changed
Shitposting on singulo for 2 months straight constantly posting about how shitty /tg/ is doesn't exactly help your case in a ban for doing nothing but complaining in OOC.
If you'd like to bring up some evidence to the contrary, I'd love to see it, and I'm certain everyone would.
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
is this seriously what we've devolved to over a guy who posts in OOC a lotiamgoofball wrote:You've provided 0 evidence that you've changed so far, so yes, it is impossible to "realise" you've changed.Punnches wrote:is it impossible for you people to realise i've changed
Shitposting on singulo for 2 months straight constantly posting about how shitty /tg/ is doesn't exactly help your case in a ban for doing nothing but complaining in OOC.
If you'd like to bring up some evidence to the contrary, I'd love to see it, and I'm certain everyone would.
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
You're dodging the question. You know exactly why you were banned and you refuse to change yourself to fix it.
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
Is there a way this can be done cleverly? Like if his OOC behavior was the problem, is there way mechanics-wise you could just do a (very) long-term OOC player mute?
EDIT: If his actual gameplay isn't a problem, of course.
EDIT: If his actual gameplay isn't a problem, of course.
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
>admit i fucked upZilenan91 wrote:You're dodging the question. You know exactly why you were banned and you refuse to change yourself to fix it.
>apologize to HG
>make ban appeal apologizing
>this is refusing to change
can you at least let me keep my singulo shitposting
yes, there is an OOC ban.TheWulfe wrote:Is there a way this can be done cleverly? Like if his OOC behavior was the problem, is there way mechanics-wise you could just do a (very) long-term OOC player mute?
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
An apology or two isn't an example of change. Anyone can apologize for something and not mean it. People and logs from other servers, communities, or places on the internet showing you've learned how to conduct yourself in an online setting is an example of change.Punnches wrote:>admit i fucked up
>apologize to HG
>make ban appeal apologizing
>this is refusing to change
I don't care if it's Baystation, Goon, VGstation, Ars Technicia, somethingawful, pornhub comments, or wattpad stories. Come back with something from somewhere showing that between the time of your ban and now, you've been able to communicate elsewhere without being a complete turd.
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
clearly the man needs a perma ooc ban, but was his conduct ic ever very bad?
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
He didn't have IC conduct because he never played
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
Locked until fate is decided by headmins etc.
Whatever
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Re: [HotelBravoLima] Punnches420 - Being 20% of OOC
I think your conduct in the greater /tg/station community warrants your exclusion.
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