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Dismemberment feedback

Post by phil235 » #174145

The PR will be merged soon. Post your feedback in this thread.
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Re: Dismemberment feedback

Post by DemonFiren » #174151

>tfw this is not a meme

what a time to be alive
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Post by Atlanta-Ned » #174178

I love it! NOW MAKE ME HATE IT
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Re: Dismemberment feedback

Post by Incomptinence » #174192

Brace for growing pains.
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Post by Armhulen » #174195

Aw yeah! Now when I fully augment someone his head will be robotic too!



oh yeah i guess the dismemberment is cool too
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Post by EndgamerAzari » #174202

FUCK now I gotta figure out how to make Byond not shit all over the floor of my computer so I can finally RIP AND TEAR
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yackemflam wrote:It's like dish washing, someone has to do it.
MAYBE IF YOU'D QUIT SHITTING ON THE PLATE WHEN YOU'RE TOO LAZY TO GET UP TO GO TO THE RESTROOM AND JUST PUT THEM IN THE FUCKING SINK WHEN YOU'RE DONE
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miggles wrote:is that supposed to be a trick question or just a dumb one
cedarbridge wrote:My first idea is that everyone just stops being faggots to each other but that's not going to happen, obviously.
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Re: Dismemberment feedback

Post by PKPenguin321 » #174213

Get hype
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Post by Cik » #174217

wait lol what who finished it
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Post by PKPenguin321 » #174220

Cik wrote:wait lol what who finished it
Hippie + phil
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Re: Dismemberment feedback

Post by confused rock » #174275

Wheelchairs when?
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Re: Dismemberment feedback

Post by lumipharon » #174281

Peg.
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Re: Dismemberment feedback

Post by Incomptinence » #174318

Rocket legs, laser hands, machine gun ass.
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Re: Dismemberment feedback

Post by DemonFiren » #174319

Incomptinence wrote:Rocket legs, laser hands, machine gun ass.
0/10 not machine gun groin
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Re: Dismemberment feedback

Post by onleavedontatme » #174322

Seems pretty inconsequential right now since it isnt really a practical combat strategy. I think it's probably better that this big system get in the game without balance arguments though, always time for those later. Cutting hands off criminals is funny as well.
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Re: Dismemberment feedback

Post by InsaneHyena » #174323

My only experience with this system so far was finding someone's head in the maint. It was creepy.
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Re: Dismemberment feedback

Post by Incomptinence » #174331

DemonFiren wrote: 0/10 not machine gun groin
Why... why would asto boy have a machine gun in his groin?
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Re: Dismemberment feedback

Post by DemonFiren » #174354

Incomptinence wrote:
DemonFiren wrote: 0/10 not machine gun groin
Why... why would asto boy have a machine gun in his groin?
Exercise for the reader.

Anyway, bucklecuffing someone to a bed or table and striking the mouth with a sword/wielded fire axe resulting in instant decapitation when?
Constructable guillotines when?
Hand/foot limbs to remove, rendering prisoners harmless but not complete quadriplegics and for giving pirate captains hook hands when?
Groin limb when?
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Post by Shaps-cloud » #174374

Cutting off someone's limb removes all the damage that they had on that limb which basically heals them for like 75 damage upon losing the limb. That probably shouldn't happen
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Re: Dismemberment feedback

Post by Lumbermancer » #174377

I saw a guy punch someone using the Sleeping Carp technique and he made his limbs fall off.
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Re: Dismemberment feedback

Post by EndgamerAzari » #174387

Lumbermancer wrote:I saw a guy punch someone using the Sleeping Carp technique and he made his limbs fall off.
I think this is one of those moments when a bug should become a feature. That's hilarious.
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Wyzack wrote:Remove players 2016, they ruin everything they touch
IM TRYING
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yackemflam wrote:It's like dish washing, someone has to do it.
MAYBE IF YOU'D QUIT SHITTING ON THE PLATE WHEN YOU'RE TOO LAZY TO GET UP TO GO TO THE RESTROOM AND JUST PUT THEM IN THE FUCKING SINK WHEN YOU'RE DONE
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Falamazeer wrote:I am sufficiently outraged for you
Maccus wrote:You look like the dad every teenage boy doesn't look forward to meeting at his girlfriend's house
nsos wrote:When I was a teen and did the inevitable trying to suck your own dick thing I managed to get the head in my mouth and I feel like the rest of my life is me being punished for that
miggles wrote:is that supposed to be a trick question or just a dumb one
cedarbridge wrote:My first idea is that everyone just stops being faggots to each other but that's not going to happen, obviously.
Not-Dorsidarf wrote:Most soap operas could be improved if every scene had a greyshirt in the background hooting "GIBE DE POOSIE BOSS" all the time
Not-Dorsidarf wrote:classic style is "shit on everyone from the greatest heights, so they cannot climb high enough to shit on you"
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Re: Dismemberment feedback

Post by Shadowlight213 » #174389

I saw something similar with someone piledriving someone using the wrestling belt and their legs flying off.
Also explosions blowing off limbs is amazing.
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Re: Dismemberment feedback

Post by EndgamerAzari » #174420

Shaps wrote:Cutting off someone's limb removes all the damage that they had on that limb which basically heals them for like 75 damage upon losing the limb. That probably shouldn't happen
God knows I'm the last person with any knowledge about code issues, but didn't this happen last time we tried to implement dismemberment?
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Shaps wrote:I never thought I'd see the day where someone tried claiming the moral high ground on drinking a bottle of cough syrup
TechnoAlchemist wrote:dumb baby boo boo "i wish I enlisted then mom would be proud" ballistics.
Saegrimr wrote:
Wyzack wrote:Remove players 2016, they ruin everything they touch
IM TRYING
Saegrimr wrote:
yackemflam wrote:It's like dish washing, someone has to do it.
MAYBE IF YOU'D QUIT SHITTING ON THE PLATE WHEN YOU'RE TOO LAZY TO GET UP TO GO TO THE RESTROOM AND JUST PUT THEM IN THE FUCKING SINK WHEN YOU'RE DONE
FantasticFwoosh wrote:Zip ties are best applied on assistants and other nobodies because of the exact reason they are disposable (applies to both).
An0n3 wrote:Azari for headmin 2015
He's an admin you can trust because nobody remembers to involve him in their conspiracies.
Drynwyn wrote:hbrahlrlahrlharlahr FEATURE CREEP
ShadowDimentio wrote:Instructions too complex, spaced the clown
Akkryls wrote:I mean, we are rightfully pissed off, but let's be pissed off for the correct reasons.
Falamazeer wrote:I am sufficiently outraged for you
Maccus wrote:You look like the dad every teenage boy doesn't look forward to meeting at his girlfriend's house
nsos wrote:When I was a teen and did the inevitable trying to suck your own dick thing I managed to get the head in my mouth and I feel like the rest of my life is me being punished for that
miggles wrote:is that supposed to be a trick question or just a dumb one
cedarbridge wrote:My first idea is that everyone just stops being faggots to each other but that's not going to happen, obviously.
Not-Dorsidarf wrote:Most soap operas could be improved if every scene had a greyshirt in the background hooting "GIBE DE POOSIE BOSS" all the time
Not-Dorsidarf wrote:classic style is "shit on everyone from the greatest heights, so they cannot climb high enough to shit on you"
Super Aggro Crag wrote:you can't just use meme to mean "thing I don't like" you goatherd
Saegrimr wrote:"lel just go explore make YOUR OWN fun wow do you have NO IMAGINATION back in MY DAY we used to shove twigs in our urethras and PRETENDED WE WERE KNIGHTS"
An0n3 wrote:Fucking crystal ass wind chime lookin' bitch.
Saegrimr wrote:It should be common sense but this is /tg/.
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Re: Dismemberment feedback

Post by Lumbermancer » #174436

-you can do krav maga leg sweep without legs
-you can't use hands properly without legs; you can pull, manipulate items from containers, but can't hold anything in hands
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Post by Wyzack » #174440

What is the alternative? Transferring damage to the torso magically? Lowering maximum health with limb removal? I cannot think of a logical solution
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Post by Saegrimr » #174443

Lumbermancer wrote:-you can't use hands properly without legs; you can pull, manipulate items from containers, but can't hold anything in hands
Sort of intentional, I mean you can't hold anything while laying down anyway.
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Shaps wrote:Cutting off someone's limb removes all the damage that they had on that limb which basically heals them for like 75 damage upon losing the limb. That probably shouldn't happen
God knows I'm the last person with any knowledge about code issues, but didn't this happen last time we tried to implement dismemberment?
Easy fix would just make a removed limb do 50 damage to the body and start heavy bleeding. Pretty sure someone losing both their arms would be a good reason to put them right into crit.
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Re: Dismemberment feedback

Post by TheNightingale » #174447

Keep the limbs technically attached as stumps, so they can still take damage mechanics-wise; but have the limb item fall onto the floor, and the stumps be unusable (e.g. you can't pick anything up if you don't have any arms/hands) until replaced.
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Post by Lumbermancer » #174448

Saegrimr wrote:Sort of intentional, I mean you can't hold anything while laying down anyway.
But you can, if someone puts it in your hands.
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Post by Remie Richards » #174529

TheNightingale wrote:Keep the limbs technically attached as stumps, so they can still take damage mechanics-wise; but have the limb item fall onto the floor, and the stumps be unusable (e.g. you can't pick anything up if you don't have any arms/hands) until replaced.
That was the method for my original version of this PR (Hippie+Phil revived it)
it literally just dropped a dummy limb and gave the real limb some flags to allow code to ignore acting on it/drawing it.
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Re: Dismemberment feedback

Post by Luke Cox » #174547

IT'S HAPPENING!

Time to literally disarm prisoners!
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Post by Aloraydrel » #174555

>Be roboticist
>Saw a borg patient's head off
>cut out the brain from his severed head

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Post by phil235 » #174558

Shaps wrote:Cutting off someone's limb removes all the damage that they had on that limb which basically heals them for like 75 damage upon losing the limb. That probably shouldn't happen
Half of the limb's damage is transfered to the chest actually.
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Re: Dismemberment feedback

Post by ThanatosRa » #174570

So are things even more like Superjail now?
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Re: Dismemberment feedback

Post by confused rock » #174572

can spears dismember?
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Post by Zilenan91 » #174574

They're sharp so yes

You can probably dismember people by throwing them too
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Post by DemonFiren » #174641

Then it's not Superjail, but Toribash.
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Post by confused rock » #174688

You should be able to attach detached limbs to people, not just robotic limbs.
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Post by Tornadium » #174707

>Get Abducted into a dark corner of maint
>Get strapped to a table by my captor.
>Proceeds to cover my apparent transgressions and sins
>Slowly cuts me to pieces.

10/10 would play "Dexter : Victim Simulator" again.
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Re: Dismemberment feedback

Post by onleavedontatme » #174717

https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/17453

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Post by Remie Richards » #174718

Kor wrote:https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/17453

Phil has made something super nice, so I'm trying to ruin it. Please like and subscribe.
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Post by PKPenguin321 » #174733

The unloved rock wrote:You should be able to attach detached limbs to people, not just robotic limbs.
I think it'd be neat if genetics could grow new limbs that can be attached to amputees
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Post by Cheimon » #174785

I feel like there ought to be a particularly noticeable message when you get dismembered, or someone else loses a limb. I tried it yesterday and it didn't register that my arm had come off until I saw it on the ground: even if there was a message (I don't think there was) I didn't see it.

Given we're entirely okay with spamming up the screen with reports for every gunshot in a three round burst or whatever, it seems like we'll be okay with one more message for the most significant injury someone can realistically receive while still standing.
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Post by A3STH3T1CS » #174787

"what happened to my arm admins??"
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Re: Dismemberment feedback

Post by Lumbermancer » #174790

People just chop their arms and legs left and right, there seem to be no immediate consequences. I'm not sure if I like it.
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Post by Jacough » #174802

I can finally play as Mr. Handy the helpful armless clown again whoo!
The unloved rock wrote:Wheelchairs when?
Remind me to do a clown gimmick if they get added where I cut both my legs off, get in a wheelchair and go around the station begging for various things while telling people I used to be a proud member of the ERT security force until a rogue mime sliced my legs off with an esaber
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Post by confused rock » #174815

Jacough wrote:I can finally play as Mr. Handy the helpful armless clown again whoo!
The unloved rock wrote:Wheelchairs when?
Remind me to do a clown gimmick if they get added where I cut both my legs off, get in a wheelchair and go around the station begging for various things while telling people I used to be a proud member of the ERT security force until a rogue mime sliced my legs off with an esaber
>not working as somebody with no limbs with another beggar dragging you around who has 1 arm and no tongue
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Post by Saegrimr » #174816

Jacough wrote:I can finally play as Mr. Handy the helpful armless clown again whoo!
The unloved rock wrote:Wheelchairs when?
Remind me to do a clown gimmick if they get added where I cut both my legs off, get in a wheelchair and go around the station begging for various things while telling people I used to be a proud member of the ERT security force until a rogue mime sliced my legs off with an esaber
/vg/ lets you start without certain limbs or prosthetic limbs.
I'd usually just sign up as an armless legless assistant and be a really big pAI without the cool features.

Chef grabbed me, showed me how to make spaghetti, then force fed me spaghetti for about half an hour.
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Post by Sidon » #174820

Saegrimr wrote:
Jacough wrote:I can finally play as Mr. Handy the helpful armless clown again whoo!
The unloved rock wrote:Wheelchairs when?
Remind me to do a clown gimmick if they get added where I cut both my legs off, get in a wheelchair and go around the station begging for various things while telling people I used to be a proud member of the ERT security force until a rogue mime sliced my legs off with an esaber
/vg/ lets you start without certain limbs or prosthetic limbs.
I'd usually just sign up as an armless legless assistant and be a really big pAI without the cool features.

Chef grabbed me, showed me how to make spaghetti, then force fed me spaghetti for about half an hour.
It would be cool to have roundstart augments, but maybe not as good as what you can get in round?. You can lop anything off now so it balances having them now I think.

Starting without certain limbs would be neat, and can cut down on people asking to be made into stumps.
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Re: Dismemberment feedback

Post by Saegrimr » #174821

Sidon wrote:It would be cool to have roundstart augments, but maybe not as good as what you can get in round?. You can lop anything off now so it balances having them now I think.
Starting without certain limbs would be neat, and can cut down on people asking to be made into stumps.
Pretty sure they were limited to peg leg, hook hand, or just a standard prosthetic which has no mechanical advantage or disadvantage.
Could also start with a mechanically assisted heart or eyes which fucked you up when you get hit with EMP, though I don't think they had any benefits either. Or start with nearsightedness and glasses.
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Re: Dismemberment feedback

Post by Screemonster » #174865

Lumbermancer wrote:I saw a guy punch someone using the Sleeping Carp technique and he made his limbs fall off.
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Re: Dismemberment feedback

Post by confused rock » #174918

What if you could make makeshift peg legs out of rods and hook hands out of botany cultivators
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