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Post by Zilenan91 » #191681

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rip I died to a riot control bot and a cop bot who came down the stairs when I was putting shit away. Couldn't attack back due to the gas and lost everything.
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Post by John_Oxford » #191684

Zilenan91 wrote:Do Eyebots do anything by any chance? I've had one floating around my base for a good long time and a while ago it was attacked by a swarm of zombies and it seems to have either killed those zombies or run away from them somehow.
Zilenan91 wrote:rip I died to a riot control bot and a cop bot who came down the stairs when I was putting shit away. Couldn't attack back due to the gas and lost everything.
yeah, thats because of the eyebot, it brings riot control bots and other shitty-one-burst-kill-you-forever-bullshit-droids down onto your position, it should have emoted "The eyebot takes a picture of you, emitting a flash!"
Once it takes a picture, killing it wont matter, you just gotta git as far as fuck away from it.
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Post by Zilenan91 » #191687

I wish someone had told me that god damnit.


Can you shoot the riot control bot?
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Yes

But it is well armoured
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I had like 100 bullets, could've shot for days since I was just as fast as it was.
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Post by XSI » #191697

Chances are it would be better at hitting you than you at hitting it

But it is technically possible to wreck them
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Post by Zilenan91 » #191706

Good lord prison break is stupidly brutal.

Avoid hulks and if you manage to do get by them congrats there's a security bot with a SMG camping the doorway in front and you're given no guns.
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Post by Timbrewolf » #191709

alpha mutagen why are you so fucking hard to make jesus crust

my current survivor is probably the strongest run I've ever had. I've managed to loot multiple labs, just ripped through a military depot and got some ID's so I can think about heading into a military base soon.

before I go any further though I want to purify away the lupine mutations I've gotten and go FULL ALPHA BRO UN-NATTY GAINS
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So how do you get out of prisons anyways? I get to the room with the security bot before I seem to be at a dead end.
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Post by Timbrewolf » #191712

Never tried that start. Too busy hitting things with my survivor machete so hard they pulp and extra meat chunks come flying out of them.

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Yo FFS tho this weapon is insane. If you like cutting weapons and melee combat get one.
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On my good run with the retarded amount of glock ammo I'd spawned in the survivor shelter and filled basically the entire basement with food and water. That was my first real time playing the game though so I intentionally went easy and made all zombies half as slow and just as durable. I've since made them far slower but far more durable to really be like George Romero zombies.
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Post by Zilenan91 » #191714

Also would you say the Stats Through Skills mod makes the game too easy or what because I haven't seen it to be too great considering you're 8 everything.
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Post by Timbrewolf » #191715

Eh? I don't play with any mods and I don't alter the values of any of the enemies. Just turn on NPC's, Wander Spawns, crank the seasons up to more realistic lengths, and turn off that fucking skill rust holy shit fuck that system.

8's across the board, light step, quick, robust genetics, and either the survivor start or backpacker start.

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Post by Zilenan91 » #191717

Lucked out. After my first prisoner died the secbot exploded so I think I'm homefree to try to figure the way out now.
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A bunch of us are playing on discord as well if you want to join that chat
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You doing voice chat or text on discord? My microphone is broken.
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Post by John_Oxford » #191720

>not playing with every mod except bullshit-zombies-are-super-wizards necromancy
the weapon mods and boat/more vehicles ad ons put tons more shit into the game
i dont know if theres a chance for a ocean to spawn anywhere, but inflatable boats are useful for crossing rivers instead of dieing instantly because you cant swim with 150 pounds of gear and armor
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Post by Zilenan91 » #191721

>finally figure out how to get out of the prison
>security bot fires through the bars and kills me
>I stood in the exact same place earlier and it didn't fire at me MY SALT
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Post by Timbrewolf » #191722

John_Oxford wrote:the weapon mods and boat/more vehicles ad ons put tons more shit into the game
This is everything wrong with the design though.

The game already has a ton of shit in it. It doesn't need longer item lists with more shit.
I don't need a dozen more varieties of vehicle turret, fifty new melee weapons, etc.
That's just bloat. That's shit.

If it actually added like...biomes and oceans and shit with new vehicles like aircraft and watercraft that would be something. Those are features.

Just shoveling more fucking random crap ontop of the game is garbage though.
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Anon3 what's the Discord?
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I've been trying to get heli crash victim to work, and I think I will, but every single time I've tried it there's either been minefields tiles away from the crash, anthill swarms, mi-gos chasing me down and killing me, or me bleeding out from the wreckage.
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Post by Wyzack » #191859

I love that start. MiGo should probably die pretty quick to your rifle that you start with. You can also staunch the bleeding by cutting up some clothes into rags
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After squatting outside of a town in a derelict RV i finally managed to get it to run again. Replaced a couple wheels and installed a couple busted up solar panels i scrounged off of a wreck. I also now have quite the collection of guns, plus a compact suppressor for my USP 9mm. Getting some real mileage out of this combat knife too, it kicks ass. Time to become a rambling man of the apocalypse in my new home on wheels
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Post by Zilenan91 » #191870

Got a great one going as military recruit. Found a Last Man On Earth shelter and a cave underneath it so I have infinite food and water and a laser turret guarding my base.
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Can you only find french maid clothes at mansions? Asking for a friend.
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Post by XSI » #191895

I just remembered that you can find 'massagers' in bedrooms

That, or a friend of mine had a mod installed for those when he send me the screenshot of him beating a zombie to death with one
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Post by Drynwyn » #192021

Yep, the vibrators are a core feature. They give +100 mood for a short time after use.

I should really boot this up again.


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Post by Timbrewolf » #192051

I went full autism mode scavenging parts to build up a superbike. I found a military transport truck made out of THE GOOD STUFF and stripped a couple chunks to come up with this bad boy:
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It rides on two 21" armored wheels and uses a large electric motor for its powerplant.
It has two removable storage batteries, which amounts to a HUGE range on a full charge.
I have a charging station setup at my home base so I can ride in and just swap out the batteries as well.
Two trunks for storage. The one in the front is for quality-of-life items and the one in the back is for stolen goodies while out running around. 1400 total volume may not seem like much compared to your RV's but the bike is able to get to a spot and back much faster. If I see a building in the middle of a city I want to go to, I can haul ass through the city right to it. No stopping because of a bunch of wrecks and having to go on foot.

The forward trunk contains a change of tires, a jack, etc. etc. stuff you might need if shit goes bad. It also has a recharging station upgrade and I put a couple items with rechargable batteries in there so they can feed off the bike's power supply. Key items like a welder, a mess kit, and a water purifier basically replicate all the functions of a kitchen and a vehicle welder without actually taking up any space on the bike's frame. There's a steel jerrycan full of purified water in there too for drinks on the go if I'm out longer than my normal carrying food supply will last. Bedroll and sleeping bag. Still looking for a tent.

The whole frame is heavy duty so collisions hardly do any damage. The front section has spiked plating to plow through people, the rest of the bike is plated with military ceramic. I managed to forage some upgraded panels off some random super car on the highway, then reinforced them. Has three of those to help charge faster while parked.

In the winter this could be bad for some but I have bionics to help offset the temperature so I can handle it. I'm not sure how I would dress up to ride this thing around in the dead of winter if I didn't. Survivor winter gear alone probably wouldn't cut it.
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Post by tedward1337 » #192092

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An0n3 wrote:I went full autism mode scavenging parts to build up a superbike. I found a military transport truck made out of THE GOOD STUFF and stripped a couple chunks to come up with this bad boy:
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It rides on two 21" armored wheels and uses a large electric motor for its powerplant.
It has two removable storage batteries, which amounts to a HUGE range on a full charge.
I have a charging station setup at my home base so I can ride in and just swap out the batteries as well.
Two trunks for storage. The one in the front is for quality-of-life items and the one in the back is for stolen goodies while out running around. 1400 total volume may not seem like much compared to your RV's but the bike is able to get to a spot and back much faster. If I see a building in the middle of a city I want to go to, I can haul ass through the city right to it. No stopping because of a bunch of wrecks and having to go on foot.

The forward trunk contains a change of tires, a jack, etc. etc. stuff you might need if shit goes bad. It also has a recharging station upgrade and I put a couple items with rechargable batteries in there so they can feed off the bike's power supply. Key items like a welder, a mess kit, and a water purifier basically replicate all the functions of a kitchen and a vehicle welder without actually taking up any space on the bike's frame. There's a steel jerrycan full of purified water in there too for drinks on the go if I'm out longer than my normal carrying food supply will last. Bedroll and sleeping bag. Still looking for a tent.

The whole frame is heavy duty so collisions hardly do any damage. The front section has spiked plating to plow through people, the rest of the bike is plated with military ceramic. I managed to forage some upgraded panels off some random super car on the highway, then reinforced them. Has three of those to help charge faster while parked.

In the winter this could be bad for some but I have bionics to help offset the temperature so I can handle it. I'm not sure how I would dress up to ride this thing around in the dead of winter if I didn't. Survivor winter gear alone probably wouldn't cut it.
to survive in cold, i suggest making a thermal electric suit, doesn't encumber much so you can wear it under your winter gear and be toasty. i manage to plunge icelabs in regular clothes with one on.
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Post by Zilenan91 » #192110

Sleeping in an actual bed with blankets equalizes your temperature too. Just go grab a bunch of random clothes and toss them on your bed pile so you can be as warm as possible.
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Post by Timbrewolf » #192111

Yeah, I was impressed when I had found out that blankets and pillows on a bed actually help you sleep better.

Pillows I think give you a flat bonus to your sleep score and clothing items give a positive based on their warmth (up to a maximum, at which point it stops accumulating). This is why pillows are just a generic "other" item but different kinds of blankets are considered clothes (though you can also wrap yourself up in them when running around if you don't have sufficient cold-weather gear, the emergency blanket in the evac shelter lockers is actually really good for this since you can also pack it up into a smaller item when not wearing it).

In the beginning of the game if you want to go full nomad you can dig makeshift shelters and then just stuff a ton of random clothes you forage for in there and it's like big ol' nest.

ANYWHO

Now that I've got Akira's motorcycle I'm building up a fort of my own using a ton of constructions and shit. I've never gotten this far in the game, usually just sticking with the nomad life. How do you guys usually progress in phases? It seems like my gameplay style is like

1) Night raid foraging on the city
2) Daytime attacks on the city once my skills have built up some
3) Limited range foraging with a salvaged vehicle
4) Road trip in an RV, not tied down anywhere
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Post by Zilenan91 » #192113

Sleep is handled pretty oddly in Cataclysm. It's a value that slowly decreases over the day, and if it's greater than 1, you can sleep. Being over a bed increases it by 5, being over a makeshift bed increases it by 4, and being over a bedroll increases it by 3. Floors increase it by 1. Turfs that have a movement cost like solid ground or anything outside add whatever the movement cost of their terrain is to your sleepiness so sleeping outside is probably pretty difficult unless you've been awake for days.
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Post by Timbrewolf » #192159

Fuck me there's so much cool shit in this game. I'm just sperging out over the advanced power systems. You can convert a bunch of items to run off of UPS power that normally wouldn't, and then use a bionic that lets items draw power from you instead of the UPS. Congrats you now have a bionic chainsaw that is FUELED BY YOU STALKING YOUR ENEMIES.

I'm adding drive by wire controls to my bike so I can control that shit via remote terminal (and hopefully later with my brain via CBM). The weakest link on it is my flesh and blood body. If I add a collector to it I'll be able to just run everyone and everything while vacuuming up anything they drop. Fucking ridiculous.
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Post by Zilenan91 » #192167

A mod I installed broke gun magazines without me knowing it so I restarted my police station fortress game and I'm running a new one. I've discovered the magic of shopping carts.
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Post by DemonFiren » #192177

UPS conversion is fun.

BIonic vibrators are fun.
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Post by Drynwyn » #192188

An0n3 wrote:Fuck me there's so much cool shit in this game. I'm just sperging out over the advanced power systems. You can convert a bunch of items to run off of UPS power that normally wouldn't, and then use a bionic that lets items draw power from you instead of the UPS. Congrats you now have a bionic chainsaw that is FUELED BY YOU STALKING YOUR ENEMIES.

I'm adding drive by wire controls to my bike so I can control that shit via remote terminal (and hopefully later with my brain via CBM). The weakest link on it is my flesh and blood body. If I add a collector to it I'll be able to just run everyone and everything while vacuuming up anything they drop. Fucking ridiculous.
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Post by Timbrewolf » #192197

My game is getting to the point where my i7 is lagging whenever I go to sleep, craft, or read books basically anytime I fast forward the game goes apeshit on my CPU. I think it might be the dozens of NPC's running around? I have no clue.
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Post by Zilenan91 » #192199

Could be the NPCs are attracting fuckhueg hordes of zombies and are attacking/getting attacked by them in your reality bubble. It should clear up once either the NPCs or the zombies die.


In other news something is exploding in my neighbourhood so it's either a survivor with a grenade launcher who has died or it's a tank drone because I heard lots of gunfire too.
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Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Post by Timbrewolf » #192200

I'm trying to build that chainsaw so I can test out firing it at people with the railgun bionic but

>steel chain takes EIGHT AND A HALF HOURS TO MAKE WHAT THE FUCK
>chainsaw requires special snowflake small motor you can't fab but have to go find

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Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Post by Zilenan91 » #192204

Try trading with NPCs if you go near htem. I found my chainsaw from the starting NPC's inventory.


Though it does make sense. The chainsaw has the highest raw damage of any melee weapon in the game.
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Post by Timbrewolf » #192210

I slammed into a house going 59mph while foraging. RIP.


...haha no wait my vehicle was still listed as "like new" condition and I wasn't injured at all despite turning someone's living room into the new off-ramp for the interstate.

God I love this thing.
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Post by Zilenan91 » #192213

I found a gunsmithing workshop in a gunshop that I may or may not have collapsed the roof of trying ot break into looking for guns. Sadly the only thing in there was a bunch of ammo cases and magazines but if I ever get the mind to it I can go use the tools there to print off a fuckload of ammo.
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Post by Timbrewolf » #192214

The only good guns are shotguns. They hit like a freight train. You could invest a ton of time and ammo getting good with another gun, but I've found that just packing 10-15 throwing knives beats out every other gun I've ever used in any playthrough. It probably helps that I've mutated and bionic'ed my way up to super strength but these things are doing around 40 damage a hit, can be picked back up after being thrown, don't require reloading, and are fast as fuck to throw.

When standing there waiting for someone to get next to me for melee I can just hammer the (t)hrow key (I assigned the knives the t key in my inventory as well so it's just double-tap t to kill shit) to become Dio Brando. They have a really good amount of range/accuracy aswell (again, the high str and dex probably helps this a lot) and my throwing skill isn't even that high (maybe 6 or so?).

I guess guns would be better if you are playing a low str character and basically can't use any other weapons in the game but that's completely retarded for so many reasons. STR dictates your carry weight and HP as well, making it a dump stat is an exercise in futility.
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Post by Zilenan91 » #192216

Shotguns are good yes, but they're also the loudest gun in the game and if I fire them near my base I'll have 9 gorillion zombies coming after me. So until I've gotten more ammo than there are stars in the sky for my shotgun I can't really utilize it effectively. In other news the same gunsmithing workshop had an assload of gun mods so I have a glock .40 straight out of /k/ and I modded the shit out of an M4 too.
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Post by Timbrewolf » #192221

Yeah it's definitely some bullshit going on with NPC's. I opened up the debug menu and looked at what's going on. There are 19 NPC's wandering around nearby and none of them can decide what they want to do so they keep stopping to figure out a plan.

I used the "Kill all NPC's" command and got a performance uptick, but I don't think it actually got them all. I need to genocide these fuckers. At least the zombie hordes don't cause all this fucking lag.
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Post by Zilenan91 » #192222

Watch out for NPCs with 40mm grenade launchers


One was blowing up hordes of zombies until a zombie kid went between her and a wall and she's paste now.
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Post by Timbrewolf » #192224

Fun fact if you don't deal the finishing blow to an NPC you don't feel guilty about killing an innocent.

I hacked a person with my machete so hard they flew backwards into a car and the impact killed them.
No negative moodlet. So either it works or I've just gotte used to murder.
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Post by Zilenan91 » #192226

yeah it's not deathblows not on how much damage you did. Hard to make it happen in practice.
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