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Monstrosity Gamemode

Post by ChangelingRain » #265772

It's time for That Cool Mode I'll Never Actually Code that vg will probably steal or something.

Just click this link and look at the attached document.
This is a direct link to the trait/ability sheet.

tl;dr

1-4 murder beasts that have to murder the crew for limited upgrades that only one of them can have at a time
one guy got the upgrade you want before you could? better go fucking murder them so you can get it
0% conversion, 0% cooperation, 100% murder beasts fighting the crew and each other
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Post by Bluespace » #265774

Another opportunity to murder the crew
I love it
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Post by oranges » #265778

This pr must replace an existing mode if you are going to make it
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Re: Monstrosity Gamemode

Post by Jacough » #265839

oranges wrote:This pr must replace an existing mode if you are going to make it
Changeling. Sounds a lot more interesting than that shit's ever been.
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Post by Armhulen » #265841

Jacough wrote:
oranges wrote:This pr must replace an existing mode if you are going to make it
Changeling. Sounds a lot more interesting than that shit's ever been.
Yep!
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Post by ShadowDimentio » #265853

oranges wrote:This pr must replace an existing mode if you are going to make it
Why is this a new rule and why is it so retarded
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Post by Xhuis » #265864

ShadowDimentio wrote:
oranges wrote:This pr must replace an existing mode if you are going to make it
Why is this a new rule and why is it so retarded
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Post by Haevacht » #265869

Looks neat, more of an obvious murderfest than lings.

Best with datum antags to make sure crew doesn't go ONLY THE OBVIOUS GUYS ARE ANTAGS CARGO SHOTGUN US REE.
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Post by captain sawrge » #265872

Obvious murderfests are really boring and unfun SS13 combat isn't very good and there's already several gamemodes about making people turn horizontal

Ling at least has some theoretical depth and intrigue to it beyond "kill a lot of people"
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Post by ShadowDimentio » #265876

Heavy emphasis on theoretical.
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Post by Armhulen » #265877

:g

meet up with changelings

break lights in medbay

tentacle armblade anyone who enters

"""""depth"""""
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Post by D&B » #265890

That reminds me a lot of that slasher idea I posted a long time ago.

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Post by Armhulen » #265891

D&B wrote:That reminds me a lot of that slasher idea I posted a long time ago.

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Oh right
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Post by Remie Richards » #265930

so this is Evolve?
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Post by AnturK » #265961

Only if you add that classic big game hunter cap and oversized rifle.
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Post by Jacough » #265970

Armhulen wrote::g

meet up with changelings

break lights in medbay

tentacle armblade anyone who enters

"""""depth"""""
Not to mention the old days when their goal was to kill and absorb x amount of people and they had an ability which instantly stunned and muted people for an eternity which made it piss easy to do so.
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Post by captain sawrge » #265973

Armhulen wrote::g

meet up with changelings

break lights in medbay

tentacle armblade anyone who enters

"""""depth"""""
I don't understand the argument here. That's a thing they can do, yes, but they can also approach objectives in other ways too? Compared to this, which seems to propose yet another "small group of players gets to murder everyone and totally derail the round" team deathmatch mode, when rev, ops, cult, and wizard all already exist.
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Post by ChangelingRain » #265978

captain sawrge wrote:
Armhulen wrote::g

meet up with changelings

break lights in medbay

tentacle armblade anyone who enters

"""""depth"""""
I don't understand the argument here. That's a thing they can do, yes, but they can also approach objectives in other ways too? Compared to this, which seems to propose yet another "small group of players gets to murder everyone and totally derail the round" team deathmatch mode, when rev, ops, cult, and wizard all already exist.
Point of clarity; NOT a team deathmatch mode. It's a free-for-all with only the station's crew being on a "team".
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Re: Monstrosity Gamemode

Post by PKPenguin321 » #266139

oranges wrote:This pr must replace an existing mode if you are going to make it
No this """rule""" is shit
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Post by Armhulen » #266143

PKPenguin321 wrote:
oranges wrote:This pr must replace an existing mode if you are going to make it
No this """rule""" is shit
it really is
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Post by captain sawrge » #266159

Armhulen wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
oranges wrote:This pr must replace an existing mode if you are going to make it
No this """rule""" is shit
it really is
It's good, actually
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Re: Monstrosity Gamemode

Post by PKPenguin321 » #266179

captain sawrge wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
oranges wrote:This pr must replace an existing mode if you are going to make it
No this """rule""" is shit
it really is
It's good, actually
You have the right to suck my gamemode odds config
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Post by Armhulen » #266180

PKPenguin321 wrote:
captain sawrge wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
oranges wrote:This pr must replace an existing mode if you are going to make it
No this """rule""" is shit
it really is
It's good, actually
You have the right to suck my gamemode odds config
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Re: Monstrosity Gamemode

Post by captain sawrge » #266184

PKPenguin321 wrote:
captain sawrge wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
oranges wrote:This pr must replace an existing mode if you are going to make it
No this """rule""" is shit
it really is
It's good, actually
You have the right to suck my gamemode odds config
Why do we need another "select group of players has the express objective to murder everyone else" when wizard, ops, and rev all already exist?
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Post by Armhulen » #266187

captain sawrge wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
captain sawrge wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
oranges wrote:This pr must replace an existing mode if you are going to make it
No this """rule""" is shit
it really is
It's good, actually
You have the right to suck my gamemode odds config
Why do we need another "select group of players has the express objective to murder everyone else" when wizard, ops, and rev all already exist?
Because if you read the document, these monstrosities don't work together.
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Post by captain sawrge » #266190

Armhulen wrote: Because if you read the document, these monstrosities don't work together.
That isn't my point at all.
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Re: Monstrosity Gamemode

Post by PKPenguin321 » #266209

captain sawrge wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
captain sawrge wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
oranges wrote:This pr must replace an existing mode if you are going to make it
No this """rule""" is shit
it really is
It's good, actually
You have the right to suck my gamemode odds config
Why do we need another "select group of players has the express objective to murder everyone else" when wizard, ops, and rev all already exist?
Take your pick:
- variety
- it might be fun, maybe even more fun than old modes
- U JUST HATE CHANGE :evil:
- there is no downside to having more modes especially when we have the gamemode odds config (inb4 "codebloat!!! this is adding too much code (even though there is no upper limit to how much code we can have)!!!!!!!!")
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Re: Monstrosity Gamemode

Post by captain sawrge » #266228

Every new feature added requirea potential rebalancing of existing features and deep consideration of how it will fit on and affect the game as a whole (at least, any well conceived feature.) When it is in, every future tweak, refactor, and feature will need to work around both the new code and the new gameplay, balance, and implications of every feature before it.
Feature bloat is a real thing and it doesn't take any level of coding knowledge to recognize this.

As for variety or "it might be fun" the op even says it's just a mass murder mode. Make as many players horizontal as possible already exists in several other forms, why is a new shade of paint going to make it any different?
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Post by ShadowDimentio » #266229

captain sawrge wrote:As for variety or "it might be fun" the op even says it's just a mass murder mode. Make as many players horizontal as possible already exists in several other forms, why is a new shade of paint going to make it any different?
Haha yeah man there's like no difference between any weapons you just click on someone until they die man why even add any more weapons we already have plenty man
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">7 8 6
WHAT MADNESS IS THIS? POETIC ANARCHY!"
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"We didn't kick one goofball out only to have another one come in like a fucking revolving door"
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Lol"
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Re: Monstrosity Gamemode

Post by captain sawrge » #266231

ShadowDimentio wrote:
captain sawrge wrote:As for variety or "it might be fun" the op even says it's just a mass murder mode. Make as many players horizontal as possible already exists in several other forms, why is a new shade of paint going to make it any different?
Haha yeah man there's like no difference between any weapons you just click on someone until they die man why even add any more weapons we already have plenty man
This but unironically
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Re: Monstrosity Gamemode

Post by PKPenguin321 » #266237

captain sawrge wrote:
ShadowDimentio wrote:
captain sawrge wrote:As for variety or "it might be fun" the op even says it's just a mass murder mode. Make as many players horizontal as possible already exists in several other forms, why is a new shade of paint going to make it any different?
Haha yeah man there's like no difference between any weapons you just click on someone until they die man why even add any more weapons we already have plenty man
This but unironically
You sound burned out, maybe you should take a break
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Re: Monstrosity Gamemode

Post by captain sawrge » #266240

PKPenguin321 wrote:
captain sawrge wrote:
ShadowDimentio wrote:
captain sawrge wrote:As for variety or "it might be fun" the op even says it's just a mass murder mode. Make as many players horizontal as possible already exists in several other forms, why is a new shade of paint going to make it any different?
Haha yeah man there's like no difference between any weapons you just click on someone until they die man why even add any more weapons we already have plenty man
This but unironically
You sound burned out, maybe you should take a break
I'm really fucking concerned that you're a potential headmin if this is how you respond to genuine attempts at discussion and debate. Congratulations on addressing nothing I said and immediately trying to dismiss it as burnout
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Re: Monstrosity Gamemode

Post by ShadowDimentio » #266244

Because you said was retarded. What imbecile has such a one-track mind that every single thing in it must have an utterly unique function?
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"The amount of people is the amount of times the sound is played... on top of itself. And with sybil populations on the shuttle..."
-Remie Richards

"I just spent all fucking day playing fallen london and sunless sea and obsessing over how creepy the fucking dawn machine is and only just clocked now that your avatar is the fucking dawn machine. Nobody vote for this disgusting new sequence blasphemer he wants to kill the gods"
-Stickymayhem

"Drank a cocktail of orange Gatorade and mint mouthwash on accident. Pretty sure I'm going to die, I am on the verge of vomit. It was nice knowing you guys"
-PKPenguin321

"You're too late, you will have to fetch them from the top of my tower, built by zombies, slaves, zombie slaves and garitho's will to live!"
-Armhulen

"This is like being cooked alive in a microwave oven which utilises the autistic end of the light spectrum to cook you."
-DarkFNC

"Penguins are the second race to realise 2D>3D"
-Anonmare

"Paul Blart mall cops if they all had ambitions of joining the Waffen-SS"
-Anonmare

"These logs could kill a dragon much less a man"
-Armhulenn

">7 8 6
WHAT MADNESS IS THIS? POETIC ANARCHY!"
-Wyzack

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ShadowDimentio wrote:Because you said was retarded. What imbecile has such a one-track mind that every single thing in it must have an utterly unique function?
I have no idea what you're trying to say here and neither of you have even made an attempt to address my point about feature bloat
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captain sawrge wrote:
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captain sawrge wrote:
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captain sawrge wrote:As for variety or "it might be fun" the op even says it's just a mass murder mode. Make as many players horizontal as possible already exists in several other forms, why is a new shade of paint going to make it any different?
Haha yeah man there's like no difference between any weapons you just click on someone until they die man why even add any more weapons we already have plenty man
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Re: Monstrosity Gamemode

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What point about feature bloat? Having multiple antags that kill people in different ways isn't feature bloat. Feature bloat is old clockcult where tons of the spells and equipment were completely and utterly useless, where feature bloat in your mind is an esword and a revolver because they both kill people by clicking on them, and is frankly stupid.
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ShadowDimentio wrote:Because you said was retarded. What imbecile has such a one-track mind that every single thing in it must have an utterly unique function?
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Are you fucking ok, Shadow? Did you swallow a fly while mouth-breathing and cut off the oxygen to your brain??
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danno wrote:
ShadowDimentio wrote:Because you said was retarded. What imbecile has such a one-track mind that every single thing in it must have an utterly unique function?
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Re: Monstrosity Gamemode

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ShadowDimentio wrote:What point about feature bloat? Having multiple antags that kill people in different ways isn't feature bloat. Feature bloat is old clockcult where tons of the spells and equipment were completely and utterly useless, where feature bloat in your mind is an esword and a revolver because they both kill people by clicking on them, and is frankly stupid.
The end result is that a couple players get to have fun the first couple times they get the mode because they are just given express directions to murderbone and then it gets stale because the mode just revolves around mindless killing in a game with really shallow combat anyway. At least with wizard or ops, it's open enough to try gimmicks or go formulate strategies deeper than just kill anything that moves.

As for everyone else, you either throw yourself at the monster and either die or click it a lot and turn the round into extended, or the shuttle gets forcecalled and everyone hides until they can escape and restart the round.

If this gets added it ought to replace wizard or ops, but those are both already conceptually deeper and more interesting than this.

I dunno, it could be interesting as a random event but at that point I doubt anyone would be willing to put nearly as much effort into it.
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oranges wrote:This pr must replace an existing mode if you are going to make it
Is there a specific reason for this?

EDIT: addressing the game mode specifically:

can you explain to me what about this gamemode will allow crewmembers without weaponry to enjoy it? not trying to be rude, but I think another gamemode that relies on whatever happens to be in the armory is a bad idea

like, say, with old shadowlings, despite all their problems you could contribute no matter what - replacing lights, handing out portable light sources, etc. etc.

What about monstrosities will be fun for those who don't roll as one/a sec officer/maybe science if they can make guns?
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On the other hand i wouldn't mind an antag you have to avoid/leave to professionals rather than run off to confront with a spear. Some people find meteor mode fun, after all.
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Re: Monstrosity Gamemode

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XDTM wrote:On the other hand i wouldn't mind an antag you have to avoid/leave to professionals rather than run off to confront with a spear. Some people find meteor mode fun, after all.
I don't know if I agree with this - on the one hand, yeah, I think that is a cool idea, but on the other, I play a lot of lowpop, so I try to consider that too

Sure, you can limit the gamemode to a certain player count, but that doesn't work all the time - I've seen ~30 player games on sybil with little/no sec presence, and it's not uncommon

Obviously in a "this thing needs to die" mode guns will be best, but I think it's important to consider what will happen if good gear is obnoxiously difficult/impossible to obtain
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XDTM wrote:On the other hand i wouldn't mind an antag you have to avoid/leave to professionals rather than run off to confront with a spear. Some people find meteor mode fun, after all.
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The intent here is kind of that a monstrosity is something a couple prepared assistants can take on, but not something a single person can. Kind of like an alien queen if it didn't have facehuggers or a number of instant stuns.
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Re: Monstrosity Gamemode

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ChangelingRain wrote:The intent here is kind of that a monstrosity is something a couple prepared assistants can take on, but not something a single person can. Kind of like an alien queen if it didn't have facehuggers or a number of instant stuns.
okay, that seems reasonable

is this an antag ala borers that are added to an existing round or is it its own deal? I assume the latter
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Qbopper wrote:
ChangelingRain wrote:The intent here is kind of that a monstrosity is something a couple prepared assistants can take on, but not something a single person can. Kind of like an alien queen if it didn't have facehuggers or a number of instant stuns.
okay, that seems reasonable

is this an antag ala borers that are added to an existing round or is it its own deal? I assume the latter
I intended it to be its own deal but a very rare event to spawn one wouldn't be particularly bad if it was ~highpop only.
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Re: Monstrosity Gamemode

Post by Cobby » #266715

RNG is the cause of a lot of rounds ending abruptly already when antags play a bit nicer, I'm not sure what's to be gained by adding yet another "time to reroll!" forcing event in the face of many people saying they would like more interesting, indepth, longer rounds.

These just remind me of Slaughter Demons+.
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Re: Monstrosity Gamemode

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XDTM wrote:On the other hand i wouldn't mind an antag you have to avoid/leave to professionals rather than run off to confront with a spear. Some people find meteor mode fun, after all.
Personally I like the idea of an antagonist that forces players to run and hide instead of charge in guns blazing or killing with a bar of soap or a banana peel to prove they're the most robust. Having to use shadows to sneak by, barricading departments, or jumping in a locker and praying they don't check it could be pretty intense. Problem is that all falls apart once it's time for the shuttle since everyone just becomes easy pickings as they herd onto the shuttle or jam themselves in escape pods.
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Re: Monstrosity Gamemode

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ExcessiveCobblestone wrote:RNG is the cause of a lot of rounds ending abruptly already when antags play a bit nicer, I'm not sure what's to be gained by adding yet another "time to reroll!" forcing event in the face of many people saying they would like more interesting, indepth, longer rounds.

These just remind me of Slaughter Demons+.
Honestly if these end up anywhere near as strong as slaughter demons, they've ended up too powerful.
Like, slaughter demons have super huge mobility, full heals, and are really, really hard to get rid of without lethal shotguns or similarly powerful weapons.

These should be a lot easier to get rid of than slaughter demons, and the only point at which these should be stronger/more dangerous than slaughter demons is if they've consumed at least 16 people and 3 other monstrosities.
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