Auto-knockdown, spacing, no warning arrival shuttle

RescueRanger · Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:21 am

The title says it all. Why did this shit even make it past testing, <10 seconds into a round i get spaced with no chance of body recovery?

Also admins reply to the complaint: "Admin PM from-IcePacks: stand back from the doors".

11/10 ign

ShadowDimentio · Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:22 am

Have you considered not standing where the shuttle arrives or refraining from trying to get off the shuttle when it still hasn't docked?

RescueRanger · Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:23 am

I had just arrived on the shuttle, was fixing my pack and spaced instantly.

Post by **oranges** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:25 am #268396

how did you get spaced

RescueRanger · Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:26 am

oranges wrote:how did you get spaced

Opened the door was pulling out my mask, tank etc, knocked down and sucked out of door.

P.s: The issue is more no warning at all and auto knockdown which means out the door if it was open at all.

Post by **Shaps-cloud** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:28 am #268399

The arrivals shuttle really does need serious tweaking, I've seen it take off multiple times while people are on the airlock tiles trying to get off, and the only reason they didn't get spaced was because the entire shuttle was already depressurized (which is another issue too)

Post by **oranges** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:29 am #268400

The shuttle is supposed to remain at the station while you're on it. Are you saying it jumped back to transit space?

RescueRanger · Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:29 am

oranges wrote:The shuttle is supposed to remain at the station while you're on it. Are you saying it jumped back to transit space?

it sure did, and dumped me out midway.

Post by **Shaps-cloud** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:30 am #268403

I don't know if that was changed in the last few days but it was definitely doing that 3-4 days ago, and I didn't realize that wasn't intended behavior

ShadowDimentio · Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:31 am

OOOHHH I see now, he was in the middle of getting off the shuttle when another guy joined, calling it back, knocking him over and spacing him.

Yeah that's fucking retarded and needs to be fixed.

Post by **oranges** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:34 am #268405

cyberboss told me it fukken spawned you into the shuttle at arrivals if it was already there that cursed liar

RescueRanger · Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:34 am

oranges wrote:cyberboss told me it fukken spawned you into the shuttle at arrivals if it was already there that cursed liar

nah it sends it back to transit space, cucking those on board, i was stripped a few days back as a guard due to the knockdown time.

Post by **Shaps-cloud** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:35 am #268409

Can confirm there was at least one situation where that wasn't the case, I came back to see 4-5 dead and dying bodies on the shuttle before someone ahelped one time

iamgoofball · Post by **iamgoofball** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:37 am #268412

maybe it's a

bug

RescueRanger · Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:38 am

iamgoofball wrote:maybe it's a

bug

Which brings the question again, how was that not found during testing. Seems like something you would test for, does it not?

Post by **oranges** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:39 am #268415

what do you mean? you literally just found it in your testing, for which we thank you for participating in our live NT test program.

RescueRanger · Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:41 am

oranges wrote:what do you mean? you literally just found it in your testing, for which we thank you for participating in our live NT test program.

yeah, yeah.

ShadowDimentio · Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:41 am

I'm glad our maintainers have so rigorously tested new features before merging them.

Post by **oranges** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:42 am #268419

I'm glad you aren't a bitter shell of a human being who only exists to comment on things in the forum.

ShadowDimentio · Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:46 am

I also comment on things in game and IRL.

Still a bitter shell though, you've got that right, Mr Code Janitor.

D&B · Post by **D&B** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:16 am #268427

Can I just add that arriving to station with oxyloss and brute damage due to low pressure is almost as bad as shadowshrooms

Reece · Post by **Reece** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:29 am #268430

Live testing works again!

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:07 am #268433

D&B wrote:Can I just add that arriving to station with oxyloss and brute damage due to low pressure is almost as bad as shadowshrooms

This is pretty annoying. Probably also a bandaid fix with tiny fans but i'm not a big fan of relying on those for everything.

Post by **oranges** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:16 am #268434

Yeah I fixed it all k, all sorted

Slignerd · Post by **Slignerd** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:47 am #268458

People should really just leave the shuttle ASAP. Otherwise we have guys who'll stay on the shuttle indefinitely preventing new arrivals from joining. New arrivals forcing the shuttle despite the presence of others aboard allows for joining to go smoothly.

I'd suggest to simply set a minimum time for the shuttle to stay docked with Arrivals. 15 seconds perhaps - enough to leave, and if you stay in the Arrivals shuttle for more than that, that's on you.

Reece · Post by **Reece** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:12 pm #268461

Good guy oranges. Fixin issues and shit

RescueRanger · Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:36 pm

Sligneris wrote:People should really just leave the shuttle ASAP. Otherwise we have guys who'll stay on the shuttle indefinitely preventing new arrivals from joining. New arrivals forcing the shuttle despite the presence of others aboard allows for joining to go smoothly.

I'd suggest to simply set a minimum time for the shuttle to stay docked with Arrivals. 15 seconds perhaps - enough to leave, and if you stay in the Arrivals shuttle for more than that, that's on you.

New arrivals spawn like they used to when its docked. But when no one is on it, then it does the whole transport shit

RescueRanger · Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:37 pm

oranges wrote:Yeah I fixed it all k, all sorted

Thanks bby this can be locked or whatever the forum admins do to threads.

Post by **Armhulen** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:43 pm #268487

RescueRanger wrote:
Sligneris wrote:People should really just leave the shuttle ASAP. Otherwise we have guys who'll stay on the shuttle indefinitely preventing new arrivals from joining. New arrivals forcing the shuttle despite the presence of others aboard allows for joining to go smoothly.

I'd suggest to simply set a minimum time for the shuttle to stay docked with Arrivals. 15 seconds perhaps - enough to leave, and if you stay in the Arrivals shuttle for more than that, that's on you.
New arrivals spawn like they used to when its docked. But when no one is on it, then it does the whole transport shit

I don't think this is right, I think the arrivals shuttle takes off with the person on it.

bandit · Post by **bandit** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:19 pm #268515

I imagine this is also confusing as fuck for new players given that for a while the No. 1 question people ever had was how to unbuckle

IcePacks · Post by **IcePacks** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:44 pm #268517

There is an audio cue that the shuttle's about to take off. Don't try and beat it; you'll just be spaced. I've seen this happen to everyone from captains to assistants. Just treat the arrivals shuttle like a mining/gulag shuttle that you don't have control of and you should be fine, for the most part.

I'm not saying the shuttle is perfect (decompression is a huge issue; the shuttle needs to generate its own air), but as a whole, this is entirely avoidable.

CPTANT · Post by **CPTANT** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:07 pm #268523

Spawning on an airless shuttle is super annnoying, and the airlocks are also always decompressed.

I think the mini fans are actually a good solution here.

D&B · Post by **D&B** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:33 pm #268529

Is there a need to make people wait 10 seconds more before getting intake for the sake of realism?

Real question here. I can't see how the shuttle departing and leaving and thus making people wait to spawn or almost spacing people is a net benefit.

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:36 pm #268532

CPTANT wrote:Spawning on an airless shuttle is super annnoying, and the airlocks are also always decompressed.

I think the mini fans are actually a good solution here.

Yeah, having to heal off that 9 damage from walking through a zero pressure zero air airlock every time does some real nasty things to my 'tism.

Post by **MrStonedOne** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:11 pm #268551

CPTANT wrote:Spawning on an airless shuttle is super annnoying, and the airlocks are also always decompressed.

I think the mini fans are actually a good solution here.

minifans actually make this worst

The reason the airlocks are even more decompressed on delta is because the minifans keep new air from coming in from the station as you get off.

Otherwise the shuttle would normally re-fill with air from the short time you leave the doors open while getting off.

MollyKristoph · Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:00 pm

I will have to agree with there being a problem with the arrivals shittle. Several times, I've nearly been spaced because someone wanted out just as bad as I do, before the sucker takes off again. If you want to say no to new players, this is definitely the route to go.

Qbopper · Post by **Qbopper** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:04 pm #268654

It does seem something is wrong with the shuttle, I've seen a few people die on it when they spawned in

Should be looked into sooner rather than later

cedarbridge · Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:31 pm

Qbopper wrote:It does seem something is wrong with the shuttle, I've seen a few people die on it when they spawned in

Should be looked into sooner rather than later

That's almost exclusively the shuttle not getting back its air content (probably should be fixed by just giving the shuttle turfs that just sustain their own atmos without possibility of venting.)

The REALLY frustrating bugs are the bits where it breaks wizard cameras (where every wizard has to stop and cancel camera view just to see normally), abductor's teleporting victims onto the shuttle turns them invisible until rescued from null-space by admin intervention.

Qbopper · Post by **Qbopper** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:09 pm #268717

cedarbridge wrote:
Qbopper wrote:It does seem something is wrong with the shuttle, I've seen a few people die on it when they spawned in

Should be looked into sooner rather than later
That's almost exclusively the shuttle not getting back its air content (probably should be fixed by just giving the shuttle turfs that just sustain their own atmos without possibility of venting.)

The REALLY frustrating bugs are the bits where it breaks wizard cameras (where every wizard has to stop and cancel camera view just to see normally), abductor's teleporting victims onto the shuttle turns them invisible until rescued from null-space by admin intervention.

Don't unsimulated turfs just have air no matter what? I'm not entirely aware of the difference but maybe that could work

Post by **Armhulen** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:15 pm #268720

We could have the shuttle fix itself every time it leaves. I don't know why the arrivals shuttle would be the same one every time anyways

D&B · Post by **D&B** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:16 pm #268724

We could just

Hear me out

Revert the stupid travel

factoryman942 · Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:32 pm

D&B wrote: Revert the stupid travel

Qbopper · Post by **Qbopper** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:39 pm #268740

I forgot to add this to my post

stop adding meme poll options that are irrelevant

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:48 pm #268746

You start buckled, which might be confusing for actually new players but prevents the I JUST SPAWNED AND NOW IM STUNNED

Like shit you're gonna be standing there anyway while you fuck around with your ID in PDA and grabbing your internals box anyway. I think this is a nice alternative to spawning in to literally space because something blew up/ate the static arrivals shuttle.

Post by **Armhulen** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:50 pm #268747

D&B wrote:We could just

Hear me out

Revert the stupid travel

but my immershun

Qbopper · Post by **Qbopper** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:54 pm #268752

Saegrimr wrote:You start buckled, which might be confusing for actually new players but prevents the I JUST SPAWNED AND NOW IM STUNNED

Like shit you're gonna be standing there anyway while you fuck around with your ID in PDA and grabbing your internals box anyway. I think this is a nice alternative to spawning in to literally space because something blew up/ate the static arrivals shuttle.

fuck, do you? is this going to get changed or not because that needs to be in the noob guide

bandit · Post by **bandit** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:54 am #268792

you do. it confused me the first time I joined with this change and I've played for like 4 years (fuck my life)

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:08 am #268935

Qbopper wrote:
Saegrimr wrote:You start buckled, which might be confusing for actually new players but prevents the I JUST SPAWNED AND NOW IM STUNNED

Like shit you're gonna be standing there anyway while you fuck around with your ID in PDA and grabbing your internals box anyway. I think this is a nice alternative to spawning in to literally space because something blew up/ate the static arrivals shuttle.
fuck, do you? is this going to get changed or not because that needs to be in the noob guide

It was fairly recent on the changelog.

Post by **Cobby** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:38 pm #269111

Just put the oxygen generator somewhere on the shuttle and make it invisible

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:40 pm #269112

Ban coders for arrivals shuttle greif kills

Keep the autist ride.