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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by ohnopigeons » #298221

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godsring wrote:Had I not come to MrStonedOne prior to the first hosting session perhaps I would understand better where you are coming from regarding the disrespect but I did offer the code. I feel that is in the spirit of open source.
There is a great resource called Google, have you heard of it? You could do with a better understanding of open source.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by godsring » #298222

Again you are wrong I am not using some loophole to justify anything? I compiled with the AGPL I offered the code as the AGPL stated "before" hosting without response.

I did not add content packs or collect funds for it neither did I attempt to "justify" Jackerzz doing so. If you had been reading what I have been saying then you would understand I am here to set the record straight. I volunteered to share what was required by the AGPL before anyone else thought of it. I actively fought against monitization by jackerzz regarding content packs under the AGPL.

As for being a parasite I am not that either I offered the code before any of this started. I am now not offering code that is non AGPL that I made because of how I feel I was treated when I was attempting to do the right thing. Do you not see what I am saying?
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by DemonFiren » #298225

It's not about offering, it's about publishing whether your code is currently wanted or not.
That would have been the right thing.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by ohnopigeons » #298229

DemonFiren wrote:It's not about offering, it's about publishing whether your code is currently wanted or not.
That would have been the right thing.
You mean license complying, legally binding, contractually expected thing.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by Remie Richards » #298230

godsring wrote:
Should have followed the license before we without warning DMCAed you lul
The license is the warning.
godsring wrote:I would understand better where you are coming from regarding the disrespect but I did offer the code. I feel that is in the spirit of open source.
Offering *US* the code isn't making it open source.
We don't want your code, as has been said quite a lot already, we simply want you, who at the time were a derivative work of AGPL /tg/station13, to open your work to EVERYONE, as is required legally.
You're not hitler, people are simply using this as a (nearly valid) reason to attack you, but you DID fuck up, opening the source up and moving to legacy GPL /tg/station13 code solves the fuck up, and you've done that.

Nobody is calling you a thief now, they were saying you were a thief then (and by not complying, you were)
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by godsring » #298231

Well it is over now, is it not? The source is released I had not hosted it since the DMCA you feel me offering was not enough but now its said and done? Why must hostility continue? The whole situation is done and over the source was released? What more is that you as a community want just to continue being angry that there was a bit of miscommunication and understand and to what benefit does it give anyone to continue being upset about it. Lets lock the thread and ends the hate yes?
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

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godsring wrote:Well it is over now, is it not? The source is released I had not hosted it since the DMCA you feel me offering was not enough but now its said and done? Why must hostility continue? The whole situation is done and over the source was released? What more is that you as a community want just to continue being angry that there was a bit of miscommunication and understand and to what benefit does it give anyone to continue being upset about it. Lets lock the thread and ends the hate yes?
Asking to have the thread locked will only ensure the thread remains open. Best to leave and wait for us to forget.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by DemonFiren » #298233

godsring wrote:Well it is over now, is it not? The source is released I had not hosted it since the DMCA you feel me offering was not enough but now its said and done? Why must hostility continue? The whole situation is done and over the source was released? What more is that you as a community want just to continue being angry that there was a bit of miscommunication and understand and to what benefit does it give anyone to continue being upset about it. Lets lock the thread and ends the hate yes?
You did kind of open yourself up for attack by coming here and taking a while to openly and clearly admit you done goofed.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by ohnopigeons » #298234

It's pretty apparent you and your discord team have been acting in bad faith throughout this whole ordeal. As for hostility in general, even now hostility still exists on your side in your discord so this moral high ground is pretty hypocritical.

Regardless, locking the thread is an entirely separate matter.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by DemonFiren » #298235

ohnopigeons wrote:It's pretty apparent you and your discord team have been acting in bad faith throughout this whole ordeal. Even now hostility still exists on your side in your discord.
I actually have to speak in his defense here, this is no reason for us to mirror that kind of behaviour.

Though it is an appealing thought.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by Grazyn » #298237

Some hostility probably also derives from him going "Well you could've gotten the code if you had accepted my offer, but you were mean to me so now you get nothing!" which kinda misses the point of the whole thing to make him look like he "won"
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by Slignerd » #298242

If you were arrested for breaking the law, would you also whine about how hostile the police is to actually enforce it, because you didn't think they would?
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by callanrockslol » #298247

I JUST FOUND A THREAD WITH GODSRING COMPLAINING ABOUT GPL NOT BEING FOLLOWED THE CIRCLE HAS CLOSED

THIS JUICY HYPOCRACY SUSTAINS ME
godsring wrote:All I honestly wanted to see from the beginning is compliance with the license and to have the hub taken down till he gets compliant that is all..its a shame things have had to come this far... he is trying so hard to bypass just doing such a simple thing...it wont hurt him in anyway or even prevent him from making money.. in all reality it protects him
godsring wrote:My intent was purely to protect my content and make sure the GPL was fully enforced...
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by Slignerd » #298255

Hahahaha holy shit :lol:
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

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This will remain in the salt reserves for all eternity, right?
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by callanrockslol » #298271

Its in General Chat, already permanent.
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Errorage wrote:When I see the win vista, win 7 and win 8 hourglass cursor, it makes me happy
Cause it's a circle spinning around
I smile and make circular motions with my finger to imiatate it
petethegoat wrote:slap a comment on it and call it a feature
MisterPerson wrote:>playing
Do you think this is a game?
Gun Hog wrote:Untested code baby
oranges wrote:for some reason all our hosts turn into bohemia software communities after they implode
Malkevin wrote:I was the only one that voted for you Callan.
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>trucking
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all we're saying is that you're not crag son
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The evil holoparasite user I can't believe its not DIO and his holoparasite I can't believe its not Skub have been defeated by the Spacedust Crusaders, but what has been taken from the station can never be returned.

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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by capi duffman » #298272

I don't think it will remain as a sticky in the general chat forever, right?
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by DemonFiren » #298285

callanrockslol wrote:I JUST FOUND A THREAD WITH GODSRING COMPLAINING ABOUT GPL NOT BEING FOLLOWED THE CIRCLE HAS CLOSED

THIS JUICY HYPOCRACY SUSTAINS ME
godsring wrote:All I honestly wanted to see from the beginning is compliance with the license and to have the hub taken down till he gets compliant that is all..its a shame things have had to come this far... he is trying so hard to bypass just doing such a simple thing...it wont hurt him in anyway or even prevent him from making money.. in all reality it protects him
godsring wrote:My intent was purely to protect my content and make sure the GPL was fully enforced...
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callanrockslol wrote:I JUST FOUND A THREAD WITH GODSRING COMPLAINING ABOUT GPL NOT BEING FOLLOWED THE CIRCLE HAS CLOSED

THIS JUICY HYPOCRACY SUSTAINS ME
godsring wrote:All I honestly wanted to see from the beginning is compliance with the license and to have the hub taken down till he gets compliant that is all..its a shame things have had to come this far... he is trying so hard to bypass just doing such a simple thing...it wont hurt him in anyway or even prevent him from making money.. in all reality it protects him
godsring wrote:My intent was purely to protect my content and make sure the GPL was fully enforced...
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Post by Wyzack » #298336

Godring pls respond i need to know what you have to say for yourself now
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by TehSteveo » #298372

I gave him a fair chance unlike you guys; you were so mean being so random for doing what was within your rights legally. MSO was so cruel.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

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godsring is a level three thinker
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Post by Wyzack » #298385

If anyone is still in the FO13 discord they should link to that
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by Grazyn » #298389

I think they purged our moles inside the discord
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

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after all russians have a lot of experience with purges
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Post by ohnopigeons » #298402

Okay let's not stoop down to russophobia.

I think the english one got take down but the russian one is still up.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by DemonFiren » #298407

>russophobia
can't these people take a goddamn joke
fucking hell half my family is russian and i'm not the least bit offended by me
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Wyzack wrote:If anyone is still in the FO13 discord they should link to that
I don't wanna bring the subject myself, as to not provoke them. But I can bring it up once it's relevant
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by godsring » #298416

Ok, so one large difference between this project and my complaint I completely own Dungeon Master and was within my right to demand others along with my TOS not to use my code in their closed source games. The credibility of TG's license is highly debatable. I honestly believe if I took /TG/ to court it would be an easy win considering but again I am already in the middle of another court case and cannot afford to goto court for two separate cases especially one where I would need to travel multiple states away for a project that only drains and gains my nothing financially. Now going back to me offering the code this was me giving respect to /TG/ for the work they have done on the source I was attempting to honor your what I believed to be false licence. Anyways, I honestly think this needs to end considering the supposed AGPL code is no longer being used.
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Post by Remie Richards » #298417

As was said, giving *US* the code does NOT honour the license.
That would merely be sharing closed source code, not making it open.
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Post by Jacough » #298420

callanrockslol wrote:I JUST FOUND A THREAD WITH GODSRING COMPLAINING ABOUT GPL NOT BEING FOLLOWED THE CIRCLE HAS CLOSED

THIS JUICY HYPOCRACY SUSTAINS ME
godsring wrote:All I honestly wanted to see from the beginning is compliance with the license and to have the hub taken down till he gets compliant that is all..its a shame things have had to come this far... he is trying so hard to bypass just doing such a simple thing...it wont hurt him in anyway or even prevent him from making money.. in all reality it protects him
godsring wrote:My intent was purely to protect my content and make sure the GPL was fully enforced...


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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by godsring » #298421

Again I am "not" in violation of any licenses or even any supposed licenses neither have I been in several weeks.

As well I would like to note that I did not verbally attack Jolenar when they did what they did to me.
I calmly and professionally handled the situation which "he" brought to the public forums and I won justice without being insulting or immature about it.
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Post by Remie Richards » #298426

Ok, I'm guessing you lack a knowledge of english tenses.
Nobody is saying you are in violation this very moment.
Since the open source release of your code, all discussion has been about the past, where you WERE in violation of the license.
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Post by MrStonedOne » #298428

godsring wrote:Well it is over now, is it not? The source is released I had not hosted it since the DMCA you feel me offering was not enough but now its said and done?
The jury is still out on that, from a casual glance i did earlier, it seemed like the legacy version that was hosted on github, had agpl code, i just haven't had the time to do a full check, nor confirm that your version had it, nor confirm that you have modifications that aren't on the github
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by godsring » #298429

MrStonedOne wrote:
godsring wrote:Well it is over now, is it not? The source is released I had not hosted it since the DMCA you feel me offering was not enough but now its said and done?
The jury is still out on that, from a casual glance i did earlier, it seemed like the legacy version that was hosted on github, had agpl code, i just haven't had the time to do a full check, nor confirm that your version had it, nor confirm that you have modifications that aren't on the github
I can allow you access to access the situation as I have nothing to hide in regards to not using your AGPL licensed code.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

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MrStonedOne wrote:https://github.com/BartNixon/Fallout13/ ... /master.dm https://github.com/BartNixon/Fallout13/ ... bsystem.dm

This has dynamic wait, something that was made after agpl
Considering development began in 2014 on that git I do not believe so.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by Jacough » #298437

godsring wrote:Again I am "not" in violation of any licenses or even any supposed licenses neither have I been in several weeks.

As well I would like to note that I did not verbally attack Jolenar when they did what they did to me.
I calmly and professionally handled the situation which "he" brought to the public forums and I won justice without being insulting or immature about it.
I mostly just wanted to point out your hypocrisy. MSO said you could just require forks of your work to state that they're running off modified versions of your game but apparently that's a horrible inconvenience for you despite the fact that you asked Jolenar to do the same thing several months ago.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by ChangelingRain » #298440

godsring wrote:
MrStonedOne wrote:https://github.com/BartNixon/Fallout13/ ... /master.dm https://github.com/BartNixon/Fallout13/ ... bsystem.dm

This has dynamic wait, something that was made after agpl
Considering development began in 2014 on that git I do not believe so.
It doesn't matter when development began, though? It just matters that the dynamic wait code is AGPL.
Relevant PRs;
Dynamic Wait: https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/9231
AGPL: https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/6689
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by godsring » #298443

ChangelingRain wrote:
godsring wrote:
MrStonedOne wrote:https://github.com/BartNixon/Fallout13/ ... /master.dm https://github.com/BartNixon/Fallout13/ ... bsystem.dm

This has dynamic wait, something that was made after agpl
Considering development began in 2014 on that git I do not believe so.
It doesn't matter when development began, though? It just matters that the dynamic wait code is AGPL.
Relevant PRs;
Dynamic Wait: https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/9231
AGPL: https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/6689
It may be AGPL now but back in 2014 when it was in the source it surely was not. I have not went over the commit but I do not see how we could get the AGPL content back in 2014 we dont have a time machine
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by ChangelingRain » #298444

godsring wrote:
ChangelingRain wrote:
godsring wrote:
MrStonedOne wrote:https://github.com/BartNixon/Fallout13/ ... /master.dm https://github.com/BartNixon/Fallout13/ ... bsystem.dm

This has dynamic wait, something that was made after agpl
Considering development began in 2014 on that git I do not believe so.
It doesn't matter when development began, though? It just matters that the dynamic wait code is AGPL.
Relevant PRs;
Dynamic Wait: https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/9231
AGPL: https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/6689
It may be AGPL now but back in 2014 when it was in the source it surely was not. I have not went over the commit but I do not see how we could get the AGPL content back in 2014 we dont have a time machine
Please look at the timestamps on the pr mergedates, you will find it illuminating. Since you do not have a time machine, the dynamic wait code is AGPL.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by godsring » #298445

Oh hmm alright if this is true I will be deleting the source and shutting down the project as I currently do not have the financial means to fight this in court. Have a nice day.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by lzimann » #298447

godsring wrote:Oh hmm alright if this is true I will be deleting the source and shutting down the project as I currently do not have the financial means to fight this in court. Have a nice day.
Or you know, make it open source.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

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godsring wrote:Oh hmm alright if this is true I will be deleting the source and shutting down the project as I currently do not have the financial means to fight this in court. Have a nice day.
Or just provide that snippet from your copy, it's entirely possible your copy doesn't have it? Instead of throwing a temper tantrum.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by imblyings » #298450

>no one else can have it

Ok then
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by Armhulen » #298451

godsring wrote:Oh hmm alright if this is true I will be deleting the source and shutting down the project as I currently do not have the financial means to fight this in court. Have a nice day.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by Armhulen » #298452

With only a few donations to your fellow fallout 13 supporters you can keep me alive in court!
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by Bawhoppennn » #298454

I doubt many people will donate to him considering the money is just going to be funneled through to some lawyer and he probably won't even win the case

Or maybe he's got a master plan, and this is just to attract donations from people, then open-source and get the case dropped so he can run off with the money
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