Mutantrace Discussion

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Mutantrace Discussion

Post by Kiryuuin » #26580

Bottom post of the previous page:

There is some discussion that is needed over the subject of alternate races being enabled with the September 1, 2014 update.

How will the mutant races interact with the AI?

Will mutant races retain their buffs/debuffs?

How will assuming the identity of a crewmember who is a different race than you work?

Will any more mutant races be introduced/will the feature even stay enabled?

These are all just general talking points to get us started, and I'm sure there are many other things that can be discussed.
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Re: Mutantrace Discussion

Post by bandit » #28557

Lizards shouldn't be treated like humans for the AI. If a lizard is like LAW 2 LET ME INTO THE CAPTAIN'S QUARTERS the AI should have every right to be like "fuck you, you're a lizard." They're not humans. Slimepeople, flypeople and hulks (when hulks were nonhuman) don't receive that protection. You'd have to stretch Asimov or rewrite silicon policy considerably to make this make sense.

What lizards should receive is Rule 1 protection. The same thing that prevents the AI from doorcrushing everyone when it's purged because it can. (Honestly, nuke ops are a bad example because no AI in the history of AI plays nuke op rounds full by-the-book Asimov, but doorcrushing someone stopping the op with the disk would definitely fall under this.) It's not the same distinction people are making but it's the one that makes most sense. And it has the benefit of not requiring any coding.
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Re: Mutantrace Discussion

Post by Lo6a4evskiy » #28561

I don't understand what's wrong with having lizards be treated like hulks.

Sure, a warning on the setup screen might be in order.
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Re: Mutantrace Discussion

Post by Spacemanspark » #28563

A robot may not injure crew or, through inaction, allow crew to come to harm.
A robot must obey the orders given to it by the crew, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

This is called Crewsimov, and it's on most RP servers with multiple species. Perhaps it can help out here?
Crew is defined by anyone on the crew manifest.
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Re: Mutantrace Discussion

Post by Scott » #28565

Nevermind.
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Re: Mutantrace Discussion

Post by cedarbridge » #28566

Scott wrote:Infiltrated antags are part of the crew. You can't use that lawset unless you're willing to add metagame laws.
This sentence doesn't make sense. You can't use this lawset for what?
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Post by Spacemanspark » #28567

Scott wrote:Infiltrated antags are part of the crew. You can't use that lawset unless you're willing to add metagame laws.
The only antags the AI can kill are Nuke Ops, Wizards, and Constructs.
They CANNOT kill Traitors, Changelings, Revs, and cultists.
If they're on the crew manifest, they cannot be killed by the AI.
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Re: Mutantrace Discussion

Post by Scott » #28569

Yup it works.
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Re: Mutantrace Discussion

Post by Arete » #28909

Spacemanspark wrote:
Scott wrote:Infiltrated antags are part of the crew. You can't use that lawset unless you're willing to add metagame laws.
The only antags the AI can kill are Nuke Ops, Wizards, and Constructs.
They CANNOT kill Traitors, Changelings, Revs, and cultists.
If they're on the crew manifest, they cannot be killed by the AI.
It could be established that the identity changelings start with are humans they've killed and replaced, in which case the changeling itself isn't on the crew manifest, if we want to keep changelings valid to the AI. Though, some changes unrelated to lizards from this change could be desirable. The possibility of kicking someone off the crew in order to dehuman them without modifying the AI is intriguing.
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Post by Hibbles » #28935

Ooh, that's not a bad idea. And as aside, having lings be not insta-valid would mean borgs might try to detain them in harm cages or something. I've always liked the idea of trying to like, permabrig a ling and weld the vents or whatever, but it's always too dangerous for a human officer to even drag them to the brig unless they're compliant. A borg wouldn't have such issues.
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Post by Aurx » #28938

Hibbles wrote:Ooh, that's not a bad idea. And as aside, having lings be not insta-valid would mean borgs might try to detain them in harm cages or something. I've always liked the idea of trying to like, permabrig a ling and weld the vents or whatever, but it's always too dangerous for a human officer to even drag them to the brig unless they're compliant. A borg wouldn't have such issues.
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Post by Scott » #28952

I like how robust the ling EMP is, cyborgs can be a real pain in the ass and at least one antagonist needs to be able to counter them.
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Post by Pandarsenic » #28988

When I was arguing for ling EMP, I pointed out that every antag except rev, in fact, has easy EMP.

EMP Kit, Dissonant Shriek, EMP Talisman, Nuke Op Ion Rifle, EMP spell...
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Pandarsenic wrote:When I was arguing for ling EMP, I pointed out that every antag except rev, in fact, has easy EMP.

EMP Kit, Dissonant Shriek, EMP Talisman, Nuke Op Ion Rifle, EMP spell...

EMP kit is garbage, and so is EMP talisman. Ion Rifle is good, but requires you to not be a fluke op. Wizard is wizard.
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Post by cedarbridge » #28999

Scott wrote:
Pandarsenic wrote:When I was arguing for ling EMP, I pointed out that every antag except rev, in fact, has easy EMP.

EMP Kit, Dissonant Shriek, EMP Talisman, Nuke Op Ion Rifle, EMP spell...

EMP kit is garbage
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Re: Mutantrace Discussion

Post by Antimattercarp » #29785

Institutionalized specisism would add a lot more flavor in my opinion. Lizards are drastically different from humans and it would be easier to justify than racism is.
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Re: Mutantrace Discussion

Post by oranges » #31993

The racism seems to have died down now anyway.

Good call earlier in the thread to sit tight for a while.
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Post by cedarbridge » #32000

oranges wrote:The racism seems to have died down now anyway.

Good call earlier in the thread to sit tight for a while.
At least in my case, its simmered to a "I don't trust "those types"" sort of thing.
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Post by paprika » #32024

Good, racism towards lizards makes it more fun.
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Post by Arete » #32112

The other day I saw humans wanting to be let into a dangerous room, and the AI refused them on Law 1 grounds, but a lizardman crewmember spoke up and said "I'm not human, you can let me in," so the AI complied. It's interesting to see how having crewmembers without Law 1 protection can actually lead to some situations that are more interesting for everyone.
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Post by Saegrimr » #32113

Arete wrote:The other day I saw humans wanting to be let into a dangerous room, and the AI refused them on Law 1 grounds, but a lizardman crewmember spoke up and said "I'm not human, you can let me in," so the AI complied. It's interesting to see how having crewmembers without Law 1 protection can actually lead to some situations that are more interesting for everyone.
That was the captain's room that the clown dropped a clownbomb in, wasn't it? I watched that whole hilarious mess play out.
Turns out the lizard got everybody killed in the end anyway by letting them all loose.
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Post by Arete » #32114

Saegrimr wrote:That was the captain's room that the clown dropped a clownbomb in, wasn't it? I watched that whole hilarious mess play out.
Turns out the lizard got everybody killed in the end anyway by letting them all loose.
Yeah, exactly. It gave the AI that necessary bit of leeway to make a risky decision rather than keeping the obvious threat completely and boringly contained.
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Re: Mutantrace Discussion

Post by Apsis » #32143

Pepper-spraying space racists as sec is fun times for all.
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Post by cedarbridge » #32154

Apsis wrote:Pepper-spraying space racists as sec is fun times for all.
Almost as fun as pepper spraying lizards.
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Re: Mutantrace Discussion

Post by Spacemanspark » #44345

Intigracy wrote:Catbeasts when?
No please.
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Post by MMMiracles » #44352

Add catbeasts just so I can finally get some use out of all these cat puns I have as clown.
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Post by miggles » #44362

add catbeasts with the caveat that anyone who plays them is always valid at all times
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Post by Cipher3 » #44372

I'd better get to be a fairy dragon.
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Nathanael Greene has made a woman of Bryce Pax!

Valerie Sinnet says, "Nathaniel Greene charged the brig with a fucking HONK."

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DEAD: Ichigo Momomiya says, "Coravin's just an ass."

Linus Johnson says, "Hey you know I got this game Skyrim last week"
Linus Johnson says, "I have a level 19 ranger and its so fun"
Weston Zadovsky says, "did he just"
Weston Zadovsky says, "fucking hell"

The emergency shuttle has been called. It will arrive in 10 minutes.
Nature of emergency:
Coravin, just Coravin.

Beryl Nyuphoran says, "Fucking get out."
Coravin Vattes asks, "Please?"
Beryl Nyuphoran says, "Please get the fuck outta my lab."
Coravin Vattes exclaims, "Okay!"
[Common] Beryl Nyuphoran {RD} asks, "WHO GAVE CORAVIN ALL ACCESS?"

Lindsay Donk stammers, "L-Luc-ck w-was-s-s s-s-such-h a beaut-tifu p-p-p-pr-r-rom-m q-q-q-queen"

Ty Andrews curls up in a ball on the floor and purrs.

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Post by Steelpoint » #44374

Why not come up with a unique alien race that is not a oversized cat.
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Post by miggles » #44376

because baystation12
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Post by Cipher3 » #44403

Steelpoint wrote:Why not come up with a unique alien race that is not a oversized cat.
How about an oversized bird, in honor of Tokiko?
Spoiler:
Nathanael Greene has made a woman of Bryce Pax!

Valerie Sinnet says, "Nathaniel Greene charged the brig with a fucking HONK."

[Common] Assists-the-Crew hisses, "Walker Quinn s-s-s-ss-stole the HoP's-s-s-ss-s door"

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I demand this ban be lifted right now. ~Bibliodewangus

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I've got all that great hitler flavor but only half the hitler calories." - Anon3

You seem to be under the mistaken assumption that PR matters. ~MisterPerson

DEAD: Ichigo Momomiya says, "Coravin's just an ass."

Linus Johnson says, "Hey you know I got this game Skyrim last week"
Linus Johnson says, "I have a level 19 ranger and its so fun"
Weston Zadovsky says, "did he just"
Weston Zadovsky says, "fucking hell"

The emergency shuttle has been called. It will arrive in 10 minutes.
Nature of emergency:
Coravin, just Coravin.

Beryl Nyuphoran says, "Fucking get out."
Coravin Vattes asks, "Please?"
Beryl Nyuphoran says, "Please get the fuck outta my lab."
Coravin Vattes exclaims, "Okay!"
[Common] Beryl Nyuphoran {RD} asks, "WHO GAVE CORAVIN ALL ACCESS?"

Lindsay Donk stammers, "L-Luc-ck w-was-s-s s-s-such-h a beaut-tifu p-p-p-pr-r-rom-m q-q-q-queen"

Ty Andrews curls up in a ball on the floor and purrs.

by oranges » Sun Feb 15, 2015 7:15 pm
Get out bluespace, you've not been relevant since you lost the elections

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Re: Mutantrace Discussion

Post by Spacemanspark » #44408

Cipher3 wrote:
Steelpoint wrote:Why not come up with a unique alien race that is not a oversized cat.
How about an oversized bird, in honor of Tokiko?
Vox is already something Baystation came up with.
http://nanotrasen.se/wiki/index.php/Vox
Otherwise, yes.
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Re: Mutantrace Discussion

Post by cedarbridge » #44497

I TOLD YOU ABOUT THOSE SLOPES BRO. I TOLD YOU.
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Post by Cipher3 » #44825

cedarbridge wrote:I TOLD YOU ABOUT THOSE SLOPES BRO. I TOLD YOU.
Pssh. We're only adding a couple more furry races...
Spoiler:
Nathanael Greene has made a woman of Bryce Pax!

Valerie Sinnet says, "Nathaniel Greene charged the brig with a fucking HONK."

[Common] Assists-the-Crew hisses, "Walker Quinn s-s-s-ss-stole the HoP's-s-s-ss-s door"

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I demand this ban be lifted right now. ~Bibliodewangus

Erin Wake whispers, "You should ready up on Badger and boink with me..."

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I've got all that great hitler flavor but only half the hitler calories." - Anon3

You seem to be under the mistaken assumption that PR matters. ~MisterPerson

DEAD: Ichigo Momomiya says, "Coravin's just an ass."

Linus Johnson says, "Hey you know I got this game Skyrim last week"
Linus Johnson says, "I have a level 19 ranger and its so fun"
Weston Zadovsky says, "did he just"
Weston Zadovsky says, "fucking hell"

The emergency shuttle has been called. It will arrive in 10 minutes.
Nature of emergency:
Coravin, just Coravin.

Beryl Nyuphoran says, "Fucking get out."
Coravin Vattes asks, "Please?"
Beryl Nyuphoran says, "Please get the fuck outta my lab."
Coravin Vattes exclaims, "Okay!"
[Common] Beryl Nyuphoran {RD} asks, "WHO GAVE CORAVIN ALL ACCESS?"

Lindsay Donk stammers, "L-Luc-ck w-was-s-s s-s-such-h a beaut-tifu p-p-p-pr-r-rom-m q-q-q-queen"

Ty Andrews curls up in a ball on the floor and purrs.

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Post by AnonymousNow » #116788

Thread necro because relevant.
[Common] Nikolas Garneys says, "FUCK YOU LIGGER SHIT"
[Common] Nikolas Garneys says, "FUCK YOU"
[Common] Nikolas Garneys says, "AND FUCK YOUR HISSING"
[Common] Nikolas Garneys says, "NOBODY LIKES YOU ANYWAY"
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[Common] Nikolas Garneys yells, "GAS ALL LIGGERS, SHALL DEATH BE UPON THEM ALL!!"
Look, I get that lizardmen are considered the lesser race in the setting, and that casual racism is a given, but I feel that this kind of intellectual exchange is a little too much, a little too often.
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Re: Mutantrace Discussion

Post by ThanatosRa » #116818

I'm pretty sure you can ahelp if it goes that far. At very least that Pfeifer person is right. Inciting a riot like that is briggable.
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AnonymousNow wrote:Look, I get that lizardmen are considered the lesser race in the setting, and that casual racism is a given, but I feel that this kind of intellectual exchange is a little too much, a little too often.
how about you just let security deal with it
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Post by iamgoofball » #116823

Steelpoint wrote:Do you honestly think a player is going to name themselves "Shits-On-Face"?
if only he knew
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Post by AnonymousNow » #116831

iamgoofball wrote:
AnonymousNow wrote:Look, I get that lizardmen are considered the lesser race in the setting, and that casual racism is a given, but I feel that this kind of intellectual exchange is a little too much, a little too often.
how about you just let security deal with it
But they don't.
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Post by Zilenan91 » #116837

AnonymousNow wrote:
iamgoofball wrote:
AnonymousNow wrote:Look, I get that lizardmen are considered the lesser race in the setting, and that casual racism is a given, but I feel that this kind of intellectual exchange is a little too much, a little too often.
how about you just let security deal with it
But they don't.

Oh yeah, I've had humans just flat out attack me FNR lately as a lizard. I was the bartender, and the only reason I managed to dunk them both (then fall into crit from bloodloss atop their dead bodies) was because they were using literally the most unrobust weapons on the entire station, rolling pins. If they had used knives or god forbid cleavers, I'd have been dead as fuck, and had all my shit looted and also probably gibbed. This is a problem.
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Re: Mutantrace Discussion

Post by Kel » #116839

if we didnt have lizards this wouldnt be a problem :)
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Post by AnonymousNow » #116846

Don't Be A Dick isn't being enforced, in my opinion. Again, part of the flavour is the race power dynamic, but when the bartender's being jumped because he has scales, it's a problem.
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Post by iamgoofball » #116849

AnonymousNow wrote:Don't Be A Dick isn't being enforced, in my opinion. Again, part of the flavour is the race power dynamic, but when the bartender's being jumped because he has scales, it's a problem.
Honestly, they probably just wanted his shotgun and used "gas the lizards race war now" as an excuse.
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Re: Mutantrace Discussion

Post by Scones » #116852

AnonymousNow wrote:Don't Be A Dick isn't being enforced, in my opinion. Again, part of the flavour is the race power dynamic, but when the bartender's being jumped because he has scales, it's a problem.
Is it?
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Re: Mutantrace Discussion

Post by TheNightingale » #116861

Scones wrote:
AnonymousNow wrote:Don't Be A Dick isn't being enforced, in my opinion. Again, part of the flavour is the race power dynamic, but when the bartender's being jumped because he has scales, it's a problem.
Is it?
I'm surprised this one even needed to be asked. Yes, Being A Dick is a problem.
Are you going out of your way as a non-antag, to negatively impact someone else's round without suitable provocation*?
Yes? Then you're Being A Dick, which is bad.

*If they went on a murdering spree, that's suitable provocation. If they tried to kill you, that's suitable provocation. If you're Sec and they're a no-good criminal, that's suitable provocation. If they're a lizardperson, that's not, because Holocaust references and racial slurs went out of style in 1945/1786 respectively.
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Re: Mutantrace Discussion

Post by Saegrimr » #116862

It'll be enforced when you ahelp it.
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