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because it is encouraging people to kill others to solve their issues
Fatal wrote:
As far as I know, people stealing from your department (okay chemists were stealing their own chem fridge so it's somewhat an edge case) opens up the possibility of creative "fun", so I feel it's pretty unfair to throw that at me when it's always been pretty much standard that you are allowed to defend your own department
You may defend your workplace from trespassers who damage or steal property within that space with significantly greater force than elsewhere. If someone is severely disruptive and returns after ejected, this opens them up to "fun" of the creative workplace death variety.
Fatal wrote:Edit: That's actually quite funny, but you must surely understand my annoyance at the first instance that occured
Fatal wrote:How much violence is fair to be killed for? Any harm/damage? Using fists? Using a weapon? It's rather vague, and given that it IS a paranoia simulator, it's hard to expect everyone to just DISARM people as a first move when we have traitors and changelings and the such which most people are trying to not die to, and just calling security on everyone is usually not a viable option given the population of security.
P.S. Shoot Dr. Allen on sight and dissolve his body in acid. Don't burn it.
SpaceInaba wrote:I was always told you remember what happened to you after you were cloned but idk
Shaps-cloud wrote:Reporting someone for killing you after you autoclone is metagamey as shit, and I was under the impression that it was against the rules to remember stuff between getting scanned and your death
Killing and spacing for a single punch is pretty far over the line and would probably count as bad faith with regards to overreacting violence
I don't see why chemists moving their own fridge would count as stealing
Shaps-cloud wrote:Reporting someone for killing you after you autoclone is metagamey as shit, and I was under the impression that it was against the rules to remember stuff between getting scanned and your death
Stickymayhem wrote:you're right!
Fatal wrote:"You are allowed to respond with reasonable equivalent retaliation or intent?"
imblyings wrote:Fatal wrote:"You are allowed to respond with reasonable equivalent retaliation or intent?"
Then we'd be going full circle back to the rules before the most recent change by Kor, that were aimed at dealing with a different set of problems.
There's going to be very little chance every situation and consequence can be covered by any rule.
Fatal wrote:Perhaps as an improvement, this could be changed to "You are allowed to respond with reasonable equivalent retaliation or intent?" or something along those lines, meaning you can't pull out a weapon and hit someone into crit for it when they punch you once? Seems like it might be an improvement to me, as many real world self defence laws are of similar wording I believe
You can't eat the orange, and throw the peel away - a man is not a piece of fruit.
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