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Admins represent the server elsewhere, how should they be punished for bad representation?

Postby iamgoofball » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:31 pm #414598

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Our administrators should not be allowed to freely insult and deride members of other communities while serving as a public servant for /tg/. I demand we institute a form of punishment for inappropriate and divisive behavior while representing the /tg/station server community and brand name.



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Re: Admins represent the server elsewhere, how should they be punished for bad representation?

Postby SpaceInaba » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:33 pm #414600

"people should not be allowed to make fun of me"
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Postby oranges » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:37 pm #414602

I agree with goof, admins are losers

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Re: Admins represent the server elsewhere, how should they be punished for bad representation?

Postby Not-Dorsidarf » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:38 pm #414604

I think it should be policy that goofball gets a weekban for each joke policy thread
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Postby iksyp » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:39 pm #414605

goof do you need a hug

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Re: Admins represent the server elsewhere, how should they be punished for bad representation?

Postby iamgoofball » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:40 pm #414606

Not-Dorsidarf wrote:I think it should be policy that goofball gets a weekban for each joke policy thread

I think you should stop trying to silence all opinions you disagree with by saying it's a "joke".

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Re: Admins represent the server elsewhere, how should they be punished for bad representation?

Postby kevinz000 » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:41 pm #414607

Separation of project and server
You're not having it both ways

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Re: Admins represent the server elsewhere, how should they be punished for bad representation?

Postby iamgoofball » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:42 pm #414609

That's exactly my point? Codebase is a separate entity and community. Administrators acting like douchebags there reflects just as badly on the /tg/station server community as it would if they acted like douchebags at Facepunch or on Steam Discussions.

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Re: Admins represent the server elsewhere, how should they be punished for bad representation?

Postby kevinz000 » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:43 pm #414610

You're asking for admins to be punished for making fun of you on the codebase

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Re: Admins represent the server elsewhere, how should they be punished for bad representation?

Postby iamgoofball » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:45 pm #414612

I'm asking for admins who are public servants to be punished for poorly representing the /tg/station server community while out and about in the rest of the internet.

Their actions on my pull request in a separate community from the server is a perfect example. Please learn to look at the big picture for once in your life. Scope is a real thing.

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Re: Admins represent the server elsewhere, how should they be punished for bad representation?

Postby IkeTG » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:46 pm #414614

iamgoofball wrote:I demand we institute a form of punishment for inappropriate and divisive behavior while representing the /tg/station server community and brand name.

I'm not sure if taking the moral high ground is the right choice here considering how harmless the comment you made the initial thread over is. It's hard not to assume this thread was made in bad faith.

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Re: Admins represent the server elsewhere, how should they be punished for bad representation?

Postby Shezza » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:49 pm #414618

Goof has a valid point in making this policy thread, its not clear to players over what an admin can be punished.
Attacking him for making a thread only makes you look like an asshole.


An Admin shouldn't go out his way to harrass members of our community in any other community and expect to get away with it.


However the incident related to making this thread is just a light-hearted joke. And shouldn't be punished unless it repeats and goof takes it as a repeated harrasement from an admin.


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Postby Ayy Lemoh » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:53 pm #414621

I thought the codebase and server wasn't so separate that apparently our own CODE is not actually a part of our server.

When I read this, I thought we were being dicks to a different server.

Like, no offense to Goof, but this doesn't seem like that big of a deal as the thread title implies.

An Admin shouldn't go out his way to harrass members of our community in any other community and expect to get away with it.

I don't understand why we have a Coderbase faction and a Server faction as if we're fucking tribals, but I guess I'm just not in the know.

It says tg, the code is for the tg server, and I think a good chunk of the coders who code on it are people who play even if it's only every other tuesday when the planets align or like tg. If they didn't then why not code for the other servers out there?

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Re: Admins represent the server elsewhere, how should they be punished for bad representation?

Postby kevinz000 » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:53 pm #414623

It should be determined on a case by case basis as it has always been.
If an admin raided some place and claims to be from here sure?
But in this case you're honestly being a baby

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Postby Wyzack » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:53 pm #414624

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Postby Owegno » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:55 pm #414626

Pay me 55$ an hour and I will act professional everywhere on the internet. Otherwise I'm just going to act normal elsewhere because this isn't a job.

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Postby Rustledjimm » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:57 pm #414629

I'll do it for £15 an hour
So uhh, I'm an admin. Please leave feedback! Oops took me a while to strike that through.

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Postby oranges » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:58 pm #414631

Ayy Lemoh wrote:I thought the codebase and server wasn't so separate that apparently our own CODE is not actually a part of our server.

When I read this, I thought we were being dicks to a different server.

Like, no offense to Goof, but this doesn't seem like that big of a deal as the thread title implies.

An Admin shouldn't go out his way to harrass members of our community in any other community and expect to get away with it.

I don't understand why we have a Coderbase faction and a Server faction as if we're fucking tribals, but I guess I'm just not in the know.

It says tg, the code is for the tg server, and I think a good chunk of the coders who code on it are people who play even if it's only every other tuesday when the planets align or like tg. If they didn't then why not code for the other servers out there?

wrong, the seperation is absolute

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Postby Boris » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:58 pm #414632

I'll do it for one bitcoin a year, bincoin isn't a dead meme yet right?
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Postby NikNakFlak » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:59 pm #414633

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Postby Saegrimr » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:59 pm #414634

Goof's whining is almost as bad as goofchem.

Summon the anti-bully rangers.
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Postby IkeTG » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:00 pm #414635

Shezza wrote:Goof has a valid point in making this policy thread, its not clear to players over what an admin can be punished.
Attacking him for making a thread only makes you look like an asshole.


An Admin shouldn't go out his way to harrass members of our community in any other community and expect to get away with it.


However the incident related to making this thread is just a light-hearted joke. And shouldn't be punished unless it repeats and goof takes it as a repeated harrasement from an admin.

If there was a valid point to make here, it's been thrown out with the bathwater. Bad-faith arguments like this thread puts everyone in an unfair position, one where it's hard to truly take anything seriously, especially since you don't know if you're going to be at the butt end of a joke if you give your honest-to-god answer.

If Goofball wanted to start a dialogue about admin harassment, he chose the worst way to go about it.

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Postby Shaps-cloud » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:00 pm #414636

Lol
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Postby Not-Dorsidarf » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:00 pm #414637

iamgoofball wrote:
Not-Dorsidarf wrote:I think it should be policy that goofball gets a weekban for each joke policy thread

I think you should stop trying to silence all opinions you disagree with by saying it's a "joke".


you might not have been joking, but this thread is still a joke
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Postby oranges » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:06 pm #414638

the irony is that half the admin team constantly call for goof to be gitbanned/forum banned every time he speaks, so acting like a reverse of this is a joke when they unironically believe the other way is the real joke.

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Postby Saegrimr » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:17 pm #414644

Imagine for a moment living a day as a gigantic shittalking baby that screams his loudest when someone laughs back, this like last time and all the times before it I look forward to your next political removal PR to try and send a message while also crying about your codebase being separate from the server or what the fuck ever.
It's a wonder you're even still around. Probably because not even /vg/station wants you.

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Postby iamgoofball » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:23 pm #414648

Ah yes, publicly mock someone because they reported shitposts in a serious policy discussion thread. Really mature, man.

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Postby Saegrimr » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:25 pm #414652

Goof you should know how I work by now, the only people you're fooling are people that haven't been around long enough to see your bullshit.
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Postby iamgoofball » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:28 pm #414654

Saegrimr wrote:Goof you should know how I work by now, the only people you're fooling are people that haven't been around long enough to see your bullshit.

Have you considered for once in your life that people don't always have ulterior motives?

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Postby Saegrimr » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:28 pm #414656

"This time is different, guys!"
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Postby cedarbridge » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:29 pm #414657

Daily reminder that this is not Applebees.

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Postby iamgoofball » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:30 pm #414658

I feel there's a conflict of interest with Saegrimir handling reports on his own posts. Is this actionable?

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Postby Stickymayhem » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:34 pm #414661

iamgoofball wrote:I feel there's a conflict of interest with Saegrimir handling reports on his own posts. Is this actionable?


Please don't harass forum moderators. The separation between coderbus and the forums is absolute.

We will be speaking to the maintainers about your unpleasant behaviour towards poor Saegrimr.
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Postby Saegrimr » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:34 pm #414662

iamgoofball wrote:I feel there's a conflict of interest with Saegrimir handling reports on his own posts. Is this actionable?


Hate to break the news but I haven't touched reports in this thread, and especially not my own. Shocking right? Almost like how ahelps and such are handled on the server when I was an admin.
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Postby SpaceInaba » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:35 pm #414664

cedarbridge wrote:Daily reminder that this is not Applebees.

We live in a society.
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Postby Rustledjimm » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:37 pm #414670

Saeg has not handled any of the reports on this page. They are all still there.
So uhh, I'm an admin. Please leave feedback! Oops took me a while to strike that through.

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Postby iamgoofball » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:44 pm #414680

Rustledjimm wrote:Saeg has not handled any of the reports on this page. They are all still there.

Thanks for checking it out. The forums gave me an email saying that reports had been deleted, and with Saeg posting images of the report queue, I figured he was the one deleting them.

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Postby iamgoofball » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:48 pm #414685

CosmicScientist wrote:
Rustledjimm wrote:Saeg has not handled any of the reports on this page. They are all still there.

Could you close this because goof can just ask oranges to delete any off topic or jabbing comments?

That and I assume any admemes being fluffernutters can be talked to regardless if they're a right bellend.

Having to constantly bug maintainers to delete comments because administrators feel entitied to shitposting on separate communities doesn't actually fix the problem of shitposting, it just hides it, sometimes literally.

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Postby Karp » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:54 pm #414689

nearly twisted my nuts while reading this thread and laughing thanks for the material goof
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Postby PKPenguin321 » Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:15 pm #414698


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Postby captain sawrge » Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:25 pm #414703

iamgoofball wrote:admins who are public servants

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Postby Bluespace » Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:27 pm #414704

you're a talented coder goof, and that's all that matters to me.
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Postby Qbopper » Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:41 pm #414713

It's incredible that I'm saying this to someone else but holy shit goof grow up

You can't act the way you do and then have the gall to turn around and complain that an admin was mean to you
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Postby BeeSting12 » Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:45 pm #414714

Public servants is hilarious. Try unpaid volunteers instead?
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Postby BeeSting12 » Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:52 pm #414715

its kinda crazy that someone who isnt even paying for a service can act so entitled that unpaid volunteers wont suck his micropenis
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Postby Ayy Lemoh » Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:52 pm #414716

PKPenguin321 wrote:0:38

Even without being used as a forum weapon or something, it's funny that this existed.

lmao.

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Postby Lazengann » Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:54 pm #414718

arent firemen held to a standard? admins are just like firemen right

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Postby Gamarr » Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:23 am #414728

Public servant is not quite right but admins in whatever capacity are the public face of things and this can probably be said to be one of their few real functions for what they handle. There shouldn't be a fucking bureaucracy to require a mass of them however.

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Postby D&B » Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:30 am #414730

This is rich coming from you goof.

Also someone add me to the fucking screenshot
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[20:26:02]ADMIN: PM: [censored admin]->[censored]: Welp. It was just a prank bro isn't a very good excuse when it comes to unprovoked nonantag murder, but since this is your first time doing it and you seem to understand the problem instead of a bannu I'm just going to leave you with a warning. Please PLEASE don't do this again in the future, as funny as crackhead broken bottle memes can be. Alrighty? Do you have any input on this?
[20:26:39]ADMIN: PM: [censored]->[censored admin]: Alright, no problem. I have some input. Fuck my boy pussy.
[20:27:06]ADMIN: PM: [censored admin]->[censored]: Okay then. Have fun.
[20:31:29]ADMIN: PM: [censored admin]->[censored]: Excuse me?

J_Madison wrote:that's a stupid fucking stat
you don't play, you've never played
lying little shit with your bullshit stat
fuck you

ColonicAcid wrote:and with enough practise i too could blow my own dick so well that only the gods know how it feels.

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Re: Admins represent the server elsewhere, how should they be punished for bad representation?

Postby Rustledjimm » Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:01 am #414736

Alright. We're ending the charade here.

We're volunteers, we are not a professional body. We however do try to maintain some level of professionalism and seriousness when on the server and, most of the time, in FNR forum section. Elsewhere we have no additional expectations on our admins than has already been outlined.
So uhh, I'm an admin. Please leave feedback! Oops took me a while to strike that through.

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