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Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

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Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postby Shezza » Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:33 am #416897

As of now the only ways of reporting such is forum pms, that are rather poorly handed, people don't see them and can't provide examples of their own harrasement.

In my opinion players should be allowed to post complaints related to admin conduct addendum from march, even if the issues are outside of the game.
It will allow everyone to voice their opinion on the matter, possibly provide examples of their own issues with an admin.


Addendum to admin conduct in spoilerquote
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Addendum: What is expected of admins

1. No Attacks/harassment towards players
2. No threats of banning specific players in public channels.
3. All posts by admins in FNR should be meaningful and contribute to the discussion.

1.
Admins should never make continued unwanted and annoying actions towards players for the purpose of personal malice or some type of prejudice. This includes statements that are outwardly hostile to specific players and/or may be a defamation of that player's character. Admins are in a position of power and should never use their position in power to strong arm players and talk badly about them while they have no form of recourse. Only severe and/or continuous cases will be considered to be a break of this expectation, but I want to outline that a continuous harassment of players after being told to stop will not be allowed and will be met with warnings and/or demerits depending on the severity.
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Any declaration and intention to ban someone for something related to a player's actions in-game or outside of space station 13 should not be done in public channels that can be seen by any party. For the purpose of this expectation, a public channel is any channel that can be seen by anyone on a server who is not an admin. For example, we would consider the #tg-station-general, all channels on the unofficial /tg/ discord, and OOC chat in both servers to be a public channel (this is not an exhaustive list though). This will be met with a warning or more corrective action depending on the severity of the incident.

Edit: Additionally, I see the need to state that this refers to specific players and not a group of players. To single out a player is not acceptable but to call out a group of people who are doing something is acceptable.
3.
I understand completely that this rule has a subjective aspect to it. However, I want to make it clear that each forum has a specific purpose and should be used for the specific purpose that it was intended. There are already outlines about only how only parties involved in bans should post in ban threads and the same with admin complaints (though the an0n3 amendment is in effect for ban appeals.) I want to make it clear that admin feedback should be used for specific feedback on that admins conduct INGAME and all activities related to their post as an admin in the community. However, an admin is allowed to post in there own thread to discuss criticism given to them granted that their response is meaningful and contributes to the discussion. Failure to follow these rules will put you on post approval.

Misc.
For the purposes of this list, admins are also considered to be players.



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Re: Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postby oranges » Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:44 pm #416919

did you report me and get brushed off?
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Re: Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postby Grazyn » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:17 pm #416939

I've learned the hard way that if you are hated by someone who holds power over your internet community, you're better off finding another community rather than try and fight it

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Re: Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postby D&B » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:56 pm #416942

Hi goof
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[20:26:02]ADMIN: PM: [censored admin]->[censored]: Welp. It was just a prank bro isn't a very good excuse when it comes to unprovoked nonantag murder, but since this is your first time doing it and you seem to understand the problem instead of a bannu I'm just going to leave you with a warning. Please PLEASE don't do this again in the future, as funny as crackhead broken bottle memes can be. Alrighty? Do you have any input on this?
[20:26:39]ADMIN: PM: [censored]->[censored admin]: Alright, no problem. I have some input. Fuck my boy pussy.
[20:27:06]ADMIN: PM: [censored admin]->[censored]: Okay then. Have fun.
[20:31:29]ADMIN: PM: [censored admin]->[censored]: Excuse me?

J_Madison wrote:that's a stupid fucking stat
you don't play, you've never played
lying little shit with your bullshit stat
fuck you

ColonicAcid wrote:and with enough practise i too could blow my own dick so well that only the gods know how it feels.

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Re: Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postby Armhulen » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:04 pm #416944

na it shouldn't

but i've come around to opening up discord pms as long as there's an expectation for the admin to be able to deny helping out. discord isn't like irc, they don't open discord when they only want to be playing ss13.

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Re: Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postby Shadowflame909 » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:53 pm #416953

Grazyn wrote:I've learned the hard way that if you are hated by someone who holds power over your internet community, you're better off finding another community rather than try and fight it


This. The shame and losses aren't worth it. If you find yourself hated by big shot buckaroo who will make your time in said community a nightmare. It's better to treat it like a lost GF situation. THE LESS TIME YOU SPEND WITH THEM, THE FASTER THE PAIN WILL GO AWAY

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Re: Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postby iksyp » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:16 pm #416955

Shadowflame909 wrote:
Grazyn wrote:I've learned the hard way that if you are hated by someone who holds power over your internet community, you're better off finding another community rather than try and fight it


This. The shame and losses aren't worth it. If you find yourself hated by big shot buckaroo who will make your time in said community a nightmare. It's better to treat it like a lost GF situation. THE LESS TIME YOU SPEND WITH THEM, THE FASTER THE PAIN WILL GO AWAY

actually the strategy is to shitpost until they go away
ignore this poster he has brain damage

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Re: Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postby DemonFiren » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:43 pm #416958

the obvious alternative is to spam alt accounts and make the admins rue the day they crossed you :^)
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Re: Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postby captain sawrge » Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:25 pm #416992

Shadowflame909 wrote:
Grazyn wrote:I've learned the hard way that if you are hated by someone who holds power over your internet community, you're better off finding another community rather than try and fight it


This. The shame and losses aren't worth it. If you find yourself hated by big shot buckaroo who will make your time in said community a nightmare. It's better to treat it like a lost GF situation. THE LESS TIME YOU SPEND WITH THEM, THE FASTER THE PAIN WILL GO AWAY

lol
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Re: Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postby Shadowflame909 » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:34 am #417057

Epic Punished Captain Sawrge. They lived through the tale of regrets, but AT WHAT COST! There innocence.....

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Re: Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postby ohnopigeons » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:58 am #417063

Someone drill a hole in my head
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Re: Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postby Nilons » Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:39 am #417099

Did someone hurt your feelings wilchen
I play Ostrava of Nanotrasen (good name)
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Re: Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postby NikNakFlak » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:57 am #417106

DemonFiren wrote:the obvious alternative is to spam alt accounts and make the admins rue the day they crossed you :^)

this has never worked on all the people who have tried it, its's just too easy to hit a button on our end

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Re: Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postby DemonFiren » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:54 am #417131

you underestimate autism, nik
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Re: Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postby Armhulen » Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:28 pm #417408

okay we had fun but no FNR is staying in game only.


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