Russian Revolver modification/chance to spawn as REAL revolver!

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Lynch
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Russian Revolver modification/chance to spawn as REAL revolver!

Post by Lynch » #424748

Hey boys, it's ya boy Lynch (the guy behind searing meats with a welder torch) bringing you yet another hot idea from recent rounds.

Most of my ideas have been brewed during rounds from things that happen during the rounds.

Background:
>Playing as greyshirt on Metastation
>Realize you're hungry and head to the kitchen/bar for some dank donk pockets
>Asshole med doc beside you stares at you wrong
>Steals your deep-fried mouse
>You think of a way to prank him back
>Pick up "Russian Revolver" in theater (thinking it's a cap gun) to fire at the asshole MD
>Revolver goes off, all 6 rounds, POW POW POW.
>MD on floor bleeding and dying.


Basically there has been a bug with the TG-codebase Russian Revolver that allowed people to fire it at other players like a normal 357 revolver.
With my findings posted to Github, Jared was able to fix the issue, but this is something that I have encountered TWICE now, on different servers.
Every time it happens, I ask people how it was possible, and no one has ever discovered the real reason except now.
GH lobs here:
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/ ... -403240944

So going forward, with the bug fixed:

What if we actually implemented two things to add disorder and chaos to our rounds involving the Russian Revolver:

1) Chance to spawn as a REAL .357 Revolver (but name/label/description exactly the same as the Russian Revolver) in the Metastation (or any other spawn, including PDA uplink or station start spawns).

2) What if we made it possible to modify a Russian Revolver into a .357 Revolver? This would kinda be similar to loading up bartender's shotgun with lethal rounds, but it would be using the same .357 rounds but modifying the Russian Revolver receiver to let it fire normally.


I understand there might be some balance issues, so hopefully we can figure out a good way to implement this.
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Re: Russian Revolver modification/chance to spawn as REAL revolver!

Post by bman » #424749

you modify the revolver and each shot has a 50/50 chance of either shooting you or the guy you're aiming at
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Re: Russian Revolver modification/chance to spawn as REAL revolver!

Post by PKPenguin321 » #425226

Will be exploited sadly
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Post by Doctor Pork » #425287

PKPenguin321 wrote:Will be exploited sadly
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Re: Russian Revolver modification/chance to spawn as REAL revolver!

Post by DemonFiren » #425315

remember when the russki revolver simply spun its chamber before firing but did actually let you load it with six rounds and shoot other people
wasn't that fun
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Re: Russian Revolver modification/chance to spawn as REAL revolver!

Post by Shadowflame909 » #425378

bman wrote:you modify the revolver and each shot has a 50/50 chance of either shooting you or the guy you're aiming at
If it hits you it does 300 damage, but since its not used to firing if it hits your opponent it does 30
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Re: Russian Revolver modification/chance to spawn as REAL revolver!

Post by Ivan Issaccs » #425385

I remember back in the day it functioned as a regular revolver with the caveat that it fired a random chamber.
I abused the fuck out of that as and it was removed for good reason.
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Re: Russian Revolver modification/chance to spawn as REAL revolver!

Post by DemonFiren » #425389

Ivan Issaccs wrote:I remember back in the day it functioned as a regular revolver with the caveat that it fired a random chamber.
I abused the fuck out of that as and it was removed for good reason.
DemonFiren wrote:remember when the russki revolver simply spun its chamber before firing but did actually let you load it with six rounds and shoot other people
wasn't that fun
but yes what if
just imagine what if
it worked like that again, but with a half-second to full-second delay between clicking and firing and a loud chamber spinning noise
anyone who doesn't immediately enter juke mode only has himself to blame for getting robusted
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Re: Russian Revolver modification/chance to spawn as REAL revolver!

Post by Zack » #425396

Well the alternative to a 6 shot half-jamming revolver spawning in that room is a full stack of bladed syndicate cards or bolas + ninja stars that'd spawn instead (both of these having 100% functionality rate) so in my opinion it's not like adding this would really add anything more abusable than anything else.
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