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are angels human to the ai

Postby Togopal » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:29 pm #446422

had to beat up anonmare because we had a round where the ai was killing an angel and while i didnt take action on the ai i thought that angels were human to the ai and anonmare disagreed, can a headmin clear this up please
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Re: are angels human to the ai

Postby Anonmare » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:30 pm #446423

My official stance is that only living, non-hulk homo sapiens with no mutant parts are Human. Angels fall under both mutant and other race, as with catgirls.
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Re: are angels human to the ai

Postby NoxVS » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:45 pm #446428

Don’t they even show up as another species if health analyzed?
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Re: are angels human to the ai

Postby Togopal » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:49 pm #446430

Yes
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Re: are angels human to the ai

Postby BeeSting12 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:51 pm #446431

Why are you sayig something thats not human is human?
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Re: are angels human to the ai

Postby Atlanta-Ned » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:55 pm #446433

When the fuck did we get angels?
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Re: are angels human to the ai

Postby Lumbermancer » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:57 pm #446434

I don't know anything about angels, but if you scan them with a medical scanner, what specie does it show? What does the code say? Aren't angels just zombies with wings anyway? Dead?
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Re: are angels human to the ai

Postby NoxVS » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:12 pm #446436

Atlanta-Ned wrote:When the fuck did we get angels?


They are the name given to people with giant angel wings, usually from mining or xenobio.
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Re: are angels human to the ai

Postby Lumbermancer » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:17 pm #446437

Pretty sure a lizard can get those as well? Why is this confusing then?
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Re: are angels human to the ai

Postby Togopal » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:18 pm #446438

BeeSting12 wrote:Why are you sayig something thats not human is human?


Because the potion to gain wings isnt the same as the mutation toxins that alter your race though I could entirely understand if it was more related to hulk than an actual seperate species. Also I remember reading on wiki somewhere that AI sees them as human. Waiting on headmins to chime in
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Re: are angels human to the ai

Postby Togopal » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:22 pm #446439

Lumbermancer wrote:I don't know anything about angels, but if you scan them with a medical scanner, what specie does it show? What does the code say? Aren't angels just zombies with wings anyway? Dead?


Scanning them with a health scanner displays their species as angel and you dont need to be dead to be registered as one
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Re: are angels human to the ai

Postby confused rock » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:28 pm #446440

Lumbermancer wrote:Pretty sure a lizard can get those as well? Why is this confusing then?

nope, only humans.
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Re: are angels human to the ai

Postby PKPenguin321 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:50 pm #446446

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Re: are angels human to the ai

Postby Cobby » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:54 pm #446448

Treat angels as bayonetta would :^)
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Re: are angels human to the ai

Postby obscolene » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:47 am #446513

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Re: are angels human to the ai

Postby Steelpoint » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:17 am #446554

I think operating under the guise that anything that adds a new external mutation, body part or something that is clearly not naturally Human should render that person, by the Silicon's standards, as Non-Human.

This would make things simple.
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Re: are angels human to the ai

Postby Cobby » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:31 am #446573

That's how it functions it's just people like to make a policy discussion to affirm that I guess.
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Re: are angels human to the ai

Postby Togopal » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:43 am #446576

Cobby wrote:That's how it functions it's just people like to make a policy discussion to affirm that I guess.


I saw a wiki entry here or somewhere else where there was a graph of every single species in the game and it listed angels as human so ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Re: are angels human to the ai

Postby Arianya » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:19 am #446582

The only wiki related entry we have about human/not-human status is this from the Rules page, which doesn't mention angels at all:

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That said, I don't think we should try to reinvent the wheel. Health scanners regard angels as being a distinct thing from humans species wise and so we should treat them as such.

The interesting point is whether the removal of wings cause a health scanner to see someone as human/lizard again or if they remain an angel.
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Re: are angels human to the ai

Postby Anonmare » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:23 am #446584

I'm personally extremely against NPC humans being non-Human. It's extremely non-intuitive and has no IC explanation.
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Re: are angels human to the ai

Postby Steelpoint » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:31 am #446585

Going off topic but I believe the justification for NPCs being classified as Non-Human is to stop Silicons having a heart attack whenever a large group of hostile NPCs get tossed onto the station somehow.

Also, I do not think Silicons can stun NPCs, so they are further castrated in this situations.
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Re: are angels human to the ai

Postby Arianya » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:46 am #446587

NPCs being non-human was already discussed in viewtopic.php?f=33&t=19306#p440231 and is off topic tbh.
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Re: are angels human to the ai

Postby somerandomguy » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:44 pm #446640

Having angels as a separate species at all is super dumb, it's just to add the wings. I'm pretty sure nonhumans can't use the potion at all, it just says something about it tasting bad.
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Re: are angels human to the ai

Postby Boris » Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:13 pm #446646

Their non-human.
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Re: are angels human to the ai

Postby teepeepee » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:30 pm #446659

their non-human what?

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Re: are angels human to the ai

Postby Lumbermancer » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:00 pm #446660

Anonmare wrote:I'm personally extremely against NPC humans being non-Human. It's extremely non-intuitive and has no IC explanation.


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Re: are angels human to the ai

Postby Xeroxemnas » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:44 pm #446668

Is this about the sybil round where I used an odysseus to turn everyone into angels.

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