The Catgirl Vote - Summoning Oranges

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Post by somerandomguy » #453012

Bottom post of the previous page:

Zarniwoop wrote:In regards to the notion that oranges or any coder legitimately cares about what the community wants, from the economy thread:
oranges wrote:
Zarniwoop wrote:
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Zarniwoop wrote:
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Zarniwoop wrote:Why do we always merge half-baked goof code?
because unlike you, he goes to the effort of actually writing it
This is a douchebag response and that's a dumbass reason to implement (and pay for!) something that clearly had minimal effort put into it (and that nobody was asking for in the first place).
If no one was asking for it then who paid goof?
Oh sorry, one person with money asked for it. My bad.
you're the one acting like a douchebag

the game is changed by the people who change it, not by the ones who play it. If you don't like that, learn to fucking code and contribute yourself, otherwise you're only ever going to be a bit player in the changes of the game and your bitching about changes other people have made will be ignored.
The people that actually play here can go fuck themselves as far as oranges is concerned.
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Zarniwoop wrote:113 posts over the coders imposing their will on the playerbase through underhanded political maneuvers.
Probably at least a third are unrelated or shitposts
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Zarniwoop wrote:The people that actually play here can go fuck themselves as far as oranges is concerned.
>make two filtered polls that let players decide about this issue
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Post by Zarniwoop » #453017

Denton wrote:
Zarniwoop wrote:The people that actually play here can go fuck themselves as far as oranges is concerned.
>make two filtered polls that let players decide about this issue
oRanGe mAn BaD
Yeah everything is simple if you ignore all context and yknow, half of whats being discussed in this thread: the jacked up options that skew towards removing. Why is it that one side of this argument makes actual points and asks legitimate questions while the other flings shit, calls names, and generally neglects addressing any of the issues being brought up? I voted to remove on the first vote but after seeing that the remove crowd pretty much unanimously refuses to engage the topic in any good faith whatsoever, I wised up.
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Post by RogueSteampunker » #453021

Denton wrote:
Zarniwoop wrote:The people that actually play here can go fuck themselves as far as oranges is concerned.
>make two filtered polls that let players decide about this issue
oRanGe mAn BaD
>not aware of the fact that the first poll only came into existence cause oranges threatened to just merge the pr unless it was started

>not aware of the fact that oranges only started screaming for a second vote when it was realized that the first was misfiltered, and would've ended with a cat win if found to be proper
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Post by oranges » #453023

both of those are incorrect.

I asked the headmins for a poll, they said no, so I made it myself.

They asked me for a second vote based on the fact they thought the first poll was poorly constructed well before ned's mishap was revealed.

But hey nice try cunt, keep on with the sour grapes
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Post by Farquaar » #453034

Zarniwoop wrote:Yeah everything is simple if you ignore all context and yknow, half of whats being discussed in this thread: the jacked up options that skew towards removing. Why is it that one side of this argument makes actual points and asks legitimate questions while the other flings shit, calls names, and generally neglects addressing any of the issues being brought up? I voted to remove on the first vote but after seeing that the remove crowd pretty much unanimously refuses to engage the topic in any good faith whatsoever, I wised up.
I don't have much stake in this one way or the other, but to accuse people in favour of felinid removal of having no legitimate arguments and operating in bad faith seems a bit absurd.
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Post by Ayebee123 » #453040

always felt like posting on this forum but i can't believe this is what my first post is going to be about

how i see it, i didn't honestly care about the vote, but the people who are going for catgirls seem immature about this, don't try to make the admins look bad please. this was a lose lose situation no matter what, either anti-catgirl players or cat-girl players would complain, but jesus christ, trying to say it was rigged because you lost the poll?? maybe it shows a good point on why people wanted them removed

tl:dr: trying to make the admins look like they rigged it isn't going to help your argument, just live with the removal.

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Post by afelinidisfinetoo » #453041

oranges wrote: ...
Why did you make a biased poll?
Could you answer the OP questions?
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afelinidisfinetoo wrote:
oranges wrote: ...
Why did you make a biased poll?
Could you answer the OP questions?
I'm starting to wonder if you're more or less some sort of false flagger. Who's goal is to make the cat-girl players look bad
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Post by Shadowflame909 » #453046

oranges wrote:sock puppet alt
then I've just made an enemy. Who could be anyone.

This entire thread could even be oranges just arguing against themselves!
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Post by Qbmax32 » #453050

i am an oranges alt
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Post by oranges » #453052

samew
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Post by afelinidisfinetoo » #453053

oranges wrote:sock puppet alt
I've been playing on TG almost every day for about a month now. There is zero evidence that I'm a sock puppet, but you wish that were the case so you're going to continue saying it.
On the other hand there is actual, really non-arguable (you haven't even tried) evidence that you rigged the poll.
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Post by Super Aggro Crag » #453056

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Post by oranges » #453058

CosmicScientist wrote:I wish I was a sock puppet.
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The things a hand would do to me.
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Post by PKPenguin321 » #453059

afelinidisfinetoo wrote:
oranges wrote: ...
Why did you make a biased poll?
Could you answer the OP questions?
The poll was not biased.
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Post by afelinidisfinetoo » #453062

PKPenguin321 wrote: The poll was not biased.
If you believe so, please answer the following questions for oranges
Why does the poll that you made hold that it's necessary to remove felinids in order to add etherals?
Is there some reason why a race needs to be removed in order for etherals to be added? If this is a congestion issue, why is it that felinids (the most popular nonhuman race) would be removed to make room when you could instead remove, for instance, flypeople?
Was the inclusion of the "Remove felinids and add <x> enticing new race" poll options an attempt to persuade the voters to vote to remove felinids? If not, what was your specific motivation in making these poll options?
How are etherals or IPCs relevant to this poll's stated premise, which was to gauge whether or not felinids belong in the game? Do you believe that motivating the voters with the promise of other races in any way taints the poll?
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Post by Shadowflame909 » #453063

CosmicScientist wrote:I wish I was a sock puppet.
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Post by oranges » #453064

we can only have limited roundstart races
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Post by oranges » #453068

yeah
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Post by afelinidisfinetoo » #453071

oranges wrote:we can only have limited roundstart races
If this is a congestion issue, why is it that felinids (the most popular nonhuman race) would be removed to make room when you could instead remove, for instance, flypeople?
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afelinidisfinetoo wrote:
oranges wrote:we can only have limited roundstart races
If this is a congestion issue, why is it that felinids (the most popular nonhuman race) would be removed to make room when you could instead remove, for instance, flypeople?
Good point, we should get rid of both of them
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Post by somerandomguy » #453079

NoxVS wrote:
afelinidisfinetoo wrote:
oranges wrote:we can only have limited roundstart races
If this is a congestion issue, why is it that felinids (the most popular nonhuman race) would be removed to make room when you could instead remove, for instance, flypeople?
Good point, we should get rid of both of them
yeah then we can have ethereals AND ipcs
that or remove all the other roundstart races so we can have humans, humans, humans, humans, humans, and humans
afelinidisfinetoo wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote: The poll was not biased.
If you believe so, please answer the following questions for oranges
Why does the poll that you made hold that it's necessary to remove felinids in order to add etherals?
Is there some reason why a race needs to be removed in order for etherals to be added? If this is a congestion issue, why is it that felinids (the most popular nonhuman race) would be removed to make room when you could instead remove, for instance, flypeople?
Was the inclusion of the "Remove felinids and add <x> enticing new race" poll options an attempt to persuade the voters to vote to remove felinids? If not, what was your specific motivation in making these poll options?
How are etherals or IPCs relevant to this poll's stated premise, which was to gauge whether or not felinids belong in the game? Do you believe that motivating the voters with the promise of other races in any way taints the poll?
your questions are rigged pkp wins by default
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Post by Screemonster » #453082

CosmicScientist wrote:If I remove felinids and humans, can we have ethereals and vox?
I just forgot who it was that got mad upset whenever vox got brought up and people started just spamming kiki yaya at them

I think it was slig but I can't be sure
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Post by Ayebee123 » #453084

here's some answers for your questions
afelinidisfinetoo wrote:Why does the poll that you made hold that it's necessary to remove felinids in order to add etherals?
it doesn't need to, but they're replacing catgirls with it since people want etherals because you know

they're actually interesting
afelinidisfinetoo wrote:Is there some reason why a race needs to be removed in order for etherals to be added? If this is a congestion issue, why is it that felinids (the most popular nonhuman race) would be removed to make room when you could instead remove, for instance, flypeople?
they don't need to make "room," also, flypeople and such other races aren't fetish content like catgirls.
afelinidisfinetoo wrote:Was the inclusion of the "Remove felinids and add <x> enticing new race" poll options an attempt to persuade the voters to vote to remove felinids? If not, what was your specific motivation in making these poll options?
people want to replace a shitty race with races they want. if a player wanted catgirls to stay, but wanted another race to be in, they should have put the race they wanted in 2nd, and keep catgirls in 1st. if they didn't put catgirls in 1st, it's simple. they don't want them.
afelinidisfinetoo wrote:How are etherals or IPCs relevant to this poll's stated premise, which was to gauge whether or not felinids belong in the game? Do you believe that motivating the voters with the promise of other races in any way taints the poll?
i feel like my 1st answer can answer this

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Post by afelinidisfinetoo » #453086

Ayebee123 wrote:here's some answers for your questions
afelinidisfinetoo wrote:Why does the poll that you made hold that it's necessary to remove felinids in order to add etherals?
it doesn't need to, but they're replacing catgirls with it since people want etherals because you know
they're actually interesting
This is subjective. The majority of the playerbase has voted several times that catgirls belong in the game.
Both can be included.
they don't need to make "room," also, flypeople and such other races aren't fetish content like catgirls.
Flypeople are fetish content for some subset of the playerbase. Same with lizards. Same with catgirls and humans.
Also, something being sexually appealing is not a reason to remove it. Censorship is not good. See https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 00#p448468
people want to replace a shitty race with races they want. if they didn't put catgirls in 1st, it's simple. they don't want them.
This is incorrect. It is of course possible, even likely, that players want both etherals and catgirls. If you are going to include a "Remove felinids and add <x> enticing new race" option, you also must include a "Keep felinids and add <x> enticing new race" option or you are bribing the voter, which is what happened here.
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Post by oranges » #453089

hit or miss, I guess they never miss huh?

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Post by Ayebee123 » #453091

afelinidisfinetoo wrote:This is subjective. The majority of the playerbase has voted several times that catgirls belong in the game.
Both can be included.
wasn't it only a slight majority? i recall catgirls barely winning sometimes
afelinidisfinetoo wrote:Flypeople are fetish content for some subset of the playerbase. Same with lizards. Same with catgirls and humans.
Also, something being sexually appealing is not a reason to remove it. Censorship is not good. See https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 00#p448468
alright i'm sorry for being a shithead but no fucking shit sherlock people have a fetish for humans that's like fucking telling a scientist humans need to breathe and you act like it's a new fucking discovery

also, seeing from that post:
afelinidisfinetoo wrote:The community is almost perfectly divided here. It's 50/50. I'm sure oranges is losing sleep trying to find a new filter he can apply to the votes to get whichever result he personally wants at the moment.
say, doesn't that contradict your previous statement saying it was a majority? ffs
afelinidisfinetoo wrote:This is incorrect. It is of course possible, even likely, that players want both etherals and catgirls. If you are going to include a "Remove felinids and add <x> enticing new race" option, you also must include a "Keep felinids and add <x> enticing new race" option or you are bribing the voter, which is what happened here.
once again

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if they want catgirls, they can choose catgirls. choose one or the other, life doesn't go out of it's way to let you have a free pass to both sides.
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Post by Qustinnus » #453105

afelinidisfinetoo wrote:
oranges wrote:we can only have limited roundstart races
If this is a congestion issue, why is it that felinids (the most popular nonhuman race) would be removed to make room when you could instead remove, for instance, flypeople?
>roundstart
dumb person
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Post by afelinidisfinetoo » #453106

Qustinnus wrote: >roundstart
dumb person
Flypeople are a roundstart race
To all users who do not regularly play the game, I recommend you refrain from commenting in this thread.
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Post by oranges » #453109

I don't know who this cute girl pretending to be qustinnus is but they need to stop impersonating him.
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Post by Qustinnus » #453120

oranges wrote:I don't know who this cute girl pretending to be qustinnus is but they need to stop impersonating him.
hi pretty
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Post by somerandomguy » #453127

afelinidisfinetoo wrote:
Qustinnus wrote: >roundstart
dumb person
Flypeople are a roundstart race
To all users who do not regularly play the game, I recommend you refrain from commenting in this thread.
>"doesn't play" argument
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Post by angelstarri » #453145

can we just have a fucking poll with a yes or no option and have ethereals as a separate poll
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angelstarri wrote:can we just have a fucking poll with a yes or no option and have ethereals as a separate poll
You really think the vote was about choice and "compromises" if it had 4 options that get catpeople disabled and oranges specifically made etherals a replacement race for the vote, telling floyd that it won't get merged otherwise.
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CosmicScientist wrote:If I take another two week break, will this shitshow be over?
the ride never ends
Thanks for all the dopamine.

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Post by obscolene » #453157

angelstarri wrote:can we just have a fucking poll with a yes or no option and have ethereals as a separate poll
We already had a binary yes/no vote. Removal won. Cat players bitched and demanded a new poll. oranges agreed to make a new poll. Afterwards, Atlanta_Ned announced that he fucked up the filtering, and removal did not win. Cat players immediately switch to "LOL quit bitching just acccept the poll results losers" and proceed to claim that oranges made a new poll because catpeople won and he wanted to rig it harder. Anyone who tries to claim otherwise is a liar and can be immediately disproven by simply scrolling through the old threads.
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[03:46:59]EMOTE: The Dreamweaver/(Steve Leaf) : <b>Steve Leaf</b> starts jacking lizard dick. (129,128,2)
[03:47:33]SAY: Steve Leaf/The Dreamweaver : OH FUCK IM CHOAKING (129,128,2)
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Re: The Catgirl Vote - Summoning Oranges

Post by Shezza » #453169

obscolene wrote:
angelstarri wrote:can we just have a fucking poll with a yes or no option and have ethereals as a separate poll
We already had a binary yes/no vote. Removal won.
What is this historical revisionism?

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https://atlantaned.space/statbus/poll.p ... ilter=true
Thanks for all the dopamine.

You (cough), you haven't won here. You and your mutie-bastard friends are gonna join me in a big ol' mushroom cloud sendoff. I just triggered the self-destruct. (Heh, heh; cough, cough,...) The work will go on. You didn't do nothing here, 'cept seal your own death warrants. Duty, (cough) honor... courage... Semper Fiiiii........
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Re: The Catgirl Vote - Summoning Oranges

Post by somerandomguy » #453171

Shezza wrote:
obscolene wrote:
angelstarri wrote:can we just have a fucking poll with a yes or no option and have ethereals as a separate poll
We already had a binary yes/no vote. Removal won.
What is this historical revisionism?

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https://atlantaned.space/statbus/poll.p ... ilter=true
>takes thing out of context
>tries to make it look stupid
Watch this
Shezza wrote:
obscolene wrote:
angelstarri wrote:can we just have a fucking poll with a yes or no option and have ethereals as a separate poll
We already had a binary yes/no vote. Removal won.
What historical revisionism?

https://atlantaned.space/statbus/poll.php?id=200
Really jesus christ you can't even look past the first sentence
Removal did win, but Ned then found the mistake
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Re: The Catgirl Vote - Summoning Oranges

Post by Shezza » #453178

somerandomguy wrote:
Shezza wrote:
obscolene wrote:
angelstarri wrote:can we just have a fucking poll with a yes or no option and have ethereals as a separate poll
We already had a binary yes/no vote. Removal won.
What is this historical revisionism?

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https://atlantaned.space/statbus/poll.p ... ilter=true
>takes thing out of context
>tries to make it look stupid
Watch this
Shezza wrote:
obscolene wrote:
angelstarri wrote:can we just have a fucking poll with a yes or no option and have ethereals as a separate poll
We already had a binary yes/no vote. Removal won.
What historical revisionism?

https://atlantaned.space/statbus/poll.php?id=200
Really jesus christ you can't even look past the first sentence
Removal did win, but Ned then found the mistake
So it never won?
Thanks for all the dopamine.

You (cough), you haven't won here. You and your mutie-bastard friends are gonna join me in a big ol' mushroom cloud sendoff. I just triggered the self-destruct. (Heh, heh; cough, cough,...) The work will go on. You didn't do nothing here, 'cept seal your own death warrants. Duty, (cough) honor... courage... Semper Fiiiii........
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Re: The Catgirl Vote - Summoning Oranges

Post by Qustinnus » #453179

Shezza wrote:
angelstarri wrote:can we just have a fucking poll with a yes or no option and have ethereals as a separate poll
You really think the vote was about choice and "compromises" if it had 4 options that get catpeople disabled and oranges specifically made etherals a replacement race for the vote, telling floyd that it won't get merged otherwise.
he never said that i already posted that he said it had enough merit on its own stop spreading lies
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Re: The Catgirl Vote - Summoning Oranges

Post by Shezza » #453180

Qustinnus wrote:
Shezza wrote:
angelstarri wrote:can we just have a fucking poll with a yes or no option and have ethereals as a separate poll
You really think the vote was about choice and "compromises" if it had 4 options that get catpeople disabled and oranges specifically made etherals a replacement race for the vote, telling floyd that it won't get merged otherwise.
he never said that i already posted that he said it had enough merit on its own stop spreading lies
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apparently not enough

oof
Thanks for all the dopamine.

You (cough), you haven't won here. You and your mutie-bastard friends are gonna join me in a big ol' mushroom cloud sendoff. I just triggered the self-destruct. (Heh, heh; cough, cough,...) The work will go on. You didn't do nothing here, 'cept seal your own death warrants. Duty, (cough) honor... courage... Semper Fiiiii........
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Re: The Catgirl Vote - Summoning Oranges

Post by CitrusGender » #453183

granted, I'm not 100% sure the main difference between the polls. It seems a bit strange that when the other options are added to the poll and you stack the options to have 4 removals and 1 non-removal, you're going to have a slight shift away from the original 50-50 split that we saw.

Realistically though, is this such a large point of contention that we're willing to point at a poll and say "LOOK, A SLIGHTLY LARGER MAJORITY OF /tg/ DISLIKE THIS SO PLEASE REMOVE IT."

Keeping the status quo is the safest option and prevents the tyranny of the slim majority.

It's legitimately a circus now, a kangaroo court. If you cannot get a good super majority to vote on something, I don't see why the status quo that has existed for so long should stop existing.
I suppose it's probably more the actions of certain people though. If oranges did not force the issue, I suppose we never would have gotten to this point. So I suppose that's admirable. Though, I still remember putting cat people on sybil quietly one day and I received little pushback because nobody really cared. There was nobody there to put outrage to the issue.

Really, this is just a brewing pot of outrage and we will look back on this issue and laugh a few months from now about how much we cared about a few pixels. Or maybe we wont.

Either way, someone is going to be mad. The only people who won in this vote were the ones that wanted to make people mad.
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Re: The Catgirl Vote - Summoning Oranges

Post by somerandomguy » #453189

Shezza wrote:
somerandomguy wrote:
Shezza wrote:
obscolene wrote:
angelstarri wrote:can we just have a fucking poll with a yes or no option and have ethereals as a separate poll
We already had a binary yes/no vote. Removal won.
What is this historical revisionism?

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https://atlantaned.space/statbus/poll.p ... ilter=true
>takes thing out of context
>tries to make it look stupid
Watch this
Shezza wrote:
obscolene wrote:
angelstarri wrote:can we just have a fucking poll with a yes or no option and have ethereals as a separate poll
We already had a binary yes/no vote. Removal won.
What historical revisionism?

https://atlantaned.space/statbus/poll.php?id=200
Really jesus christ you can't even look past the first sentence
Removal did win, but Ned then found the mistake
So it won?
Read his post before responding to it. At the time, people thought remove had more legitimate votes than keep. That is the definition of "winning." The only catch is, it only "won" for a few days, after which it no longer "won". This does not change the fact that, for those few days, people thought it did win. Assuming otherwise would be historical revisionism, which you were so quick to call obscolene out for.

Tl;dr: No u but with evidence
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Re: The Catgirl Vote - Summoning Oranges

Post by Shezza » #453190

somerandomguy wrote:
Shezza wrote:
somerandomguy wrote:
Shezza wrote:
obscolene wrote:
angelstarri wrote:can we just have a fucking poll with a yes or no option and have ethereals as a separate poll
We already had a binary yes/no vote. Removal won.
What is this historical revisionism?

Image

https://atlantaned.space/statbus/poll.p ... ilter=true
>takes thing out of context
>tries to make it look stupid
Watch this
Shezza wrote:
obscolene wrote:
angelstarri wrote:can we just have a fucking poll with a yes or no option and have ethereals as a separate poll
We already had a binary yes/no vote. Removal won.
What historical revisionism?

https://atlantaned.space/statbus/poll.php?id=200
Really jesus christ you can't even look past the first sentence
Removal did win, but Ned then found the mistake
So it won?
Read his post before responding to it. At the time, people thought remove had more legitimate votes than keep. That is the definition of "winning." The only catch is, it only "won" for a few days, after which it no longer "won". This does not change the fact that, for those few days, people thought it did win. Assuming otherwise would be historical revisionism, which you were so quick to call obscolene out for.

Tl;dr: No u but with evidence
If the result was filtered wrong then we got the wrong result posing as the "winning" result

but it didn't mean it ever won.
Thanks for all the dopamine.

You (cough), you haven't won here. You and your mutie-bastard friends are gonna join me in a big ol' mushroom cloud sendoff. I just triggered the self-destruct. (Heh, heh; cough, cough,...) The work will go on. You didn't do nothing here, 'cept seal your own death warrants. Duty, (cough) honor... courage... Semper Fiiiii........
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Re: The Catgirl Vote - Summoning Oranges

Post by somerandomguy » #453191

Shezza wrote:
somerandomguy wrote:
Shezza wrote:
somerandomguy wrote:
Shezza wrote:
obscolene wrote:
angelstarri wrote:can we just have a fucking poll with a yes or no option and have ethereals as a separate poll
We already had a binary yes/no vote. Removal won.
What is this historical revisionism?

Image

https://atlantaned.space/statbus/poll.p ... ilter=true
>takes thing out of context
>tries to make it look stupid
Watch this
Shezza wrote:
obscolene wrote:
angelstarri wrote:can we just have a fucking poll with a yes or no option and have ethereals as a separate poll
We already had a binary yes/no vote. Removal won.
What historical revisionism?

https://atlantaned.space/statbus/poll.php?id=200
Really jesus christ you can't even look past the first sentence
Removal did win, but Ned then found the mistake
So it won?
Read his post before responding to it. At the time, people thought remove had more legitimate votes than keep. That is the definition of "winning." The only catch is, it only "won" for a few days, after which it no longer "won". This does not change the fact that, for those few days, people thought it did win. Assuming otherwise would be historical revisionism, which you were so quick to call obscolene out for.

Tl;dr: No u but with evidence
If the result was filtered wrong then we got the wrong result posing as the "winning" result

but it didn't mean it ever won.
For those few days it was considered as having won
See: read posts before responding to them
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Re: The Catgirl Vote - Summoning Oranges

Post by afelinidisfinetoo » #453199

CitrusGender wrote:granted, I'm not 100% sure the main difference between the polls. It seems a bit strange that when the other options are added to the poll and you stack the options to have 4 removals and 1 non-removal, you're going to have a slight shift away from the original 50-50 split that we saw.
The flaw with the poll isn't that it has four remove options and one keep option. This is acceptable in an instant runoff poll. The flaw is that the poll has "remove felinids and I add <x> enticing new race>" options. This irreversibly taints the poll, it's voter bribery. We cannot assume anything concrete about what proportion of the playerbase wants felinids to go or stay, based on this poll. (Especially because felinids won the last 2 (3?) unbiased binary yes/no polls.)

It is kind of amazing that felinids are still only 20 pre-filtering votes away from winning, even though the poll is so seriously biased.
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