Testmerge #49042: 'Adds speech sounds'

Ghilker · Post by **Ghilker** » Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:50 am #540398

Those are really loud and annoying, please i dont want to hear me as AI going "HuH" for 2 hours straight.

Your choice of not adding a player OOC choice is stupid since (at least for me) those sounds are not adding much to the game, just more distraction.

Post by **Armhulen** » Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:52 am #540399

needs a toggle, would like different styles like hud styles to pick from

Super Aggro Crag · Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:34 am

The last time we did this the spacemen said "mememememe" which is better than HMMMMMM

Ghilker · Post by **Ghilker** » Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:33 am #540439

imagine to have to bear this for an entire round of game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvQdtlW5yJU

skoglol · Post by **skoglol** » Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:44 pm #540452

You are welcome to read and comment on the PR as well, I wont bother repeating everything here.
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/49042

Here's a summary:
I dont want a toggle because if you turn them off you are still going to be that annoying piece of shit that doesnt react when someone talks to you. See footsteps for some precedent.

All the sounds are up for discussion, but if you suggest something that is impossible to find source material for you better be willing to record some. The nice thing about hmms is they are simple and easy to record more of as we move forward.

Sound packs where players can pick how they sound is possible, although not implemented just yet. There is also a limited number of hmms available freely for use, so we would need to record some ourselves.

Tlaltecuhtli · Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:52 pm

>I dont want a toggle because if you turn them off you are still going to be that annoying piece of shit that doesnt react when someone talks to you. See footsteps for some precedent.

maybe they dont want to speak to you just do like everyone else and spam pointing them until they stop hows writing in chat jdfakhjdfsj so you make a noise any better ?????

Ghilker · Post by **Ghilker** » Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:03 pm #540457

skoglol wrote:Sound packs where players can pick how they sound is possible, although not implemented just yet. There is also a limited number of hmms available freely for use, so we would need to record some ourselves.

I'll just use silent sounds so that i can ignore everyone and be that annoying piece of shit that doesnt react when someone talks to me.

like i said not making it toggleable is not good, imagine if you couldn't disable ship ambience, instruments, midis. It would be a fuck fest in my eardrums and i dont like it

Post by **Cobby** » Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:40 pm #540476

Cobby voice pack soon (tm)

Copybass · Post by **Copybass** » Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:17 pm #540485

skoglol wrote:You are welcome to read and comment on the PR as well, I wont bother repeating everything here.
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/49042

Happy to read that Inflections are part of the current thoughts, it throws me off when I HMM? when I was meaning to HMM!!

I have a pro microphone but I have no knowledge of how to use it or my hmm voice properly.

Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:32 pm

Copybass wrote:
skoglol wrote:You are welcome to read and comment on the PR as well, I wont bother repeating everything here.
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/49042
Happy to read that Inflections are part of the current thoughts, it throws me off when I HMM? when I was meaning to HMM!!

I have a pro microphone but I have no knowledge of how to use it or my hmm voice properly.

if i had a better mic i'd do five real short sounds: "ah," "eh," "ee," "oh," and "ooh". easy enough that anyone can do it, short so perfect for talking sounds, sounds relatively natural as gibberishspeak because it's just vowels, can have its inflection changed to ? or ! very easily

skoglol · Post by **skoglol** » Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:49 pm #540587

In the interest of not bloating it too hard, inflection would have to be limited to already existing checks like we do for speech verb and span. So punctuation, whispering, that kinda thing. Worth looking into if there is interest in keeping this around, which there seems to be.

Ive mostly been hanging around event hall, and the hubbies seem to mostly enjoy it. Manuel wasnt quite as happy, but I think a lot stems from the choice of HMMM as the sound and that can be alleviated.

Post by **RaveRadbury** » Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:54 pm #540589

I found it to really add to immersion. I look forward to the full merge.

annoyinggreencatgirl · Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:09 am

I think it's cool and improves the experience. Do wish it was more varied, like an adults talking in Charlie Brown kind of thing.
Don't Goon and VG do something along those lines?

Arathian · Post by **Arathian** » Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:47 am #540652

I really don't like it but I guess I can see how some would like it.

It doesn't have a direct gameplay effect (like footsteps do) so it should have a toggle option.

CDranzer · Post by **CDranzer** » Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:27 am #540674

I heard somebody suggest they should make Don't Starve style instrument noises

Dezupher · Post by **Dezupher** » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:42 am #540700

The last thing I want to hear when I scream "HELP MAINT" whilst I'm being murdered is an immersion breaking "hmm?".

If you're afraid almost everyone would turn off the speech sounds if you add a toggle, maybe the sounds shouldn't be added in the first place.

But if you add voice packs please add an animal crossing themed one I would love to play with that.

Farquaar · Post by **Farquaar** » Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:40 am #540729

CDranzer wrote:I heard somebody suggest they should make Don't Starve style instrument noises

Dezupher wrote:But if you add voice packs please add an animal crossing themed one I would love to play with that.

It’s not a bad idea. Just record a tone or sound that vaguely sounds like speech, and modulate the pitch of each successive “word” up or down randomly.

Yenwodyah · Post by **Yenwodyah** » Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:48 am #540732

CDranzer wrote:I heard somebody suggest they should make Don't Starve style instrument noises

Either this or the charlie brown adult noises

cacogen · Post by **cacogen** » Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:48 am #540733

don't mind the hmms like some people but i wish it was something more as it stands i don't really see the point especially when it isn't on every message
i like when you write hmm and your guy goes hmm and kind of wish common words/expressions had audio clips that triggered like that

Post by **Cobby** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:10 am #540947

all sounds have a gameplay aspect?

if I hear someone hmm I know someone is talking nearby.

if I hear footsteps I know someone is walking nearby.

If instruments could play preset arrangements and you couldn't have "bad" songs I would remove the pref for that too.

Mickyan · Post by **Mickyan** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:30 am #540953

Other than some of the inflections being distracting like already mentioned I don't mind these at all, the range and volume is low enough to not be an annoyance.
I think something you could consider making a preference is whether or not you get to hear your own character's chatter, if it's possible.

Only slightly related but while we're on the subject of making it easier to notice people talking I'd love if messages from nearby people (1-2 tiles) was bigger in size

cybersaber101 · Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:13 am

I still dont see a reason to not have a toggle? if it bothers some people then let them opt in?

deedubya · Post by **deedubya** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:40 am #540967

Meanwhile at the HoP line:

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Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:49 pm #541036

I hate the AI talking noise. It sounds like a dog bark and it took me a while to realise it wasn't an admin playing the noise.

Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:03 pm

It actually lets me know when people talk to me while I'm busy in another window or something. Kinda handy when distracted.

skoglol · Post by **skoglol** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:39 pm #541092

AI realizing how annoying it is when they speak. What can I say

Changed the title since this is not manuel exclusive. Its on EH as well.

XivilaiAnaxes · Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:44 am

skoglol wrote:AI realizing how annoying it is when they speak. What can I say

Changed the title since this is not manuel exclusive. Its on EH as well.

At the very least don't make the sentient machine god bark audibly every time it uses the radio - why doesnt it directly send the data across the radio transmitter anyway? What kind of machine design incorporates turning digital data analogue, sending it through the air into an adc to be sent via radio to yet another dac device for all the crew?

skoglol · Post by **skoglol** » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:31 am #542490

Ask whoever put the intercoms around the AI core.

Flatulent · Post by **Flatulent** » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:56 am #542494

the unending mmmmm sound makes me want to die but somehow i feel like it's intentional

honestly, add an option to mute all this bullshit in game preferences

angelstarri · Post by **angelstarri** » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:24 am #542504

add sounds from the sims please and thank you

BadSS13Player · Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:22 pm

This is a cult nerf.

Post by **Cobby** » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:00 pm #542562

hearing the evil chants of cultists is emergent gameplay

skoglol · Post by **skoglol** » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:11 pm #542566

It also cant be heard through walls or when you would otherwise not be able to hear what is being said, so how is it a cult nerf exactly? Stop being bad, BadSS13Player

cacogen · Post by **cacogen** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:59 am #542659

add common words

skoglol · Post by **skoglol** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:31 pm #542683

I'm away for a couple weeks, won't be done till I'm back. Untestmerged, I got the feedback I needed for now.

Not-Dorsidarf · Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:33 am

I dont like them but maybe some less sucky sounds could be found

Qustinnus · Post by **Qustinnus** » Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:06 pm #543329

I made some sounds for ethereals and I'm willing to make sounds for humans if someone has a good suggestion of a type of sound that's simple to make

Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:52 pm

Qustinnus wrote:I made some sounds for ethereals and I'm willing to make sounds for humans if someone has a good suggestion of a type of sound that's simple to make

PKPenguin321 wrote:if i had a better mic i'd do five real short sounds: "ah," "eh," "ee," "oh," and "ooh". easy enough that anyone can do it, short so perfect for talking sounds, sounds relatively natural as gibberishspeak because it's just vowels, can have its inflection changed to ? or ! very easily

I think just sounding out the vowels is ideal

skoglol · Post by **skoglol** » Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:22 pm #543373

Please hold off on making anything until Ive decided what inflections can reasonably be achieved. Im all for inflections, voice packs and adjustable frequency.

Mickyan · Post by **Mickyan** » Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:25 pm #543374

I miss sounding like a squeaking door, bring it back