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how to succeed in a complaint as the administrator:
lie to the player in the adminhelp
post pictures of the adminhelp in which you lied, and add emphasis on insulting the player for questioning you
continue to insult the player
what could go wrong
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Do note, the event I mentioned was not something Sticky did necessarily. It's been a good while since that happened but I remember it being something that was supposed to be a lot more involved. It might very well have been Sticky, since it was in a big period of his events. I know it involved a space base but that was populated by non-station crew.
All the syndies died in like 4 minutes to someone getting outed right as the event started as security pounced on them with clean precision because one guy I think went ham immediately and his headset claimed.
They were implants so no, security did not do a surgery to extract the implant and then do another surgery to implant it in a cop four minutes after the event started. i don't know where you think you heard this
Boris wrote:Sticky is a jackass who has worms where his brain should be, but he also gets exactly what SS13 should be
Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:17 pm
Dont engage with sticky he's a subhuman
Cobby wrote:Thank you for at least building an argument I did not make, rather than arguing you just didnt self insert.
Because you didnt spawn a saw or wizard powers we can overlook the actual issue with the event.
At least r* IC powers/items are more counterable than remote proccalls but if your best position (or at least the one you decided to take) is going to be a straightforward "well i could have done shittier" for a minor point then I hope you really reconsider your approach to running these events.
jesus christ you're five years late on this debate self-inserting is fucking necessary no player wants to be a man in a box for an hour
my npcs have a lifespan of like five minutes, they appear, say some shit to make it make sense IC and then fuck off while I run the rest of the event
honestly this is the dumbest take i've seen this year well done
Boris wrote:Sticky is a jackass who has worms where his brain should be, but he also gets exactly what SS13 should be
Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:17 pm
Dont engage with sticky he's a subhuman
Also syndicate radio implants are genuinely fucking awful because they actually just broadcast the syndicate channel like a shortwave does, so everyone in a room can hear it.
Which is the least subtle thing imaginable. It also does this even while not implanted because they are that badly designed.
so my opinion is that there are story events, mini spice events and gamemode events
a story event is like thing happens and people can opt in or not and that's it really. stuff like space vigilante crash lands, or the brainmech people come to do some diplomacy or whatever
then there's mini spice, which is just to shake up the monotony of rounds. maybe traders, maybe a special pet, whatever. stuff that doesnt generally affect the round.
then there's gamemode events. they're like a new gamemode, ill generally try to have general escalation across a round, some new thing to play with or new way to do shit etc and consequences for the station if it's left unchecked.
the event you're describing was a gamemode event. several syndies spawn on a satellite near the station in syndie base and have to jump on board and sneak around stealing and sabotaging and kidnapping people for points to buy important shit. here's the thing, like any gamemode, total failure is a valid option. if one guy got captured then yeah they got fucked in the same way a cult gets fucked when a cultist goes loud and fucks shit up. The consequences are harsh, not necessarily fair and basically its just regular ss13 with a twist. There's no protection for stupidity. I've run it multiple times and sometimes they've been fucked, sometimes they've dominated and some were some of the best rounds I've ever seen.
"All traitors can communicate with each other and can compete/work together to achieve additional goals" is also a gamemode event. So if it resulted in everyone getting outed or doing dumb shit and dying I'm as fine with that as I am with nuke ops getting dunked by a clown in five minutes. I don't think just because something is coded means it's fairer, it's just not curated. This would matter if we had a competitive game capturing continuing scores or whatever but ss13 is a story generator so i dont believe that. if it somehow became important to win then id get this feeling. but the absolute desire to win is an attitude detrimental to the community
big rant im gonna go sleep its been a long day
Boris wrote:Sticky is a jackass who has worms where his brain should be, but he also gets exactly what SS13 should be
Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:17 pm
Dont engage with sticky he's a subhuman
Naloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑
I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑
ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:
Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.
Naloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑
I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑
ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:
Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.
Stickymayhem wrote:
jesus christ you're five years late on this debate self-inserting is fucking necessary no player wants to be a man in a box for an hour
my npcs have a lifespan of like five minutes, they appear, say some shit to make it make sense IC and then fuck off while I run the rest of the event
honestly this is the dumbest take i've seen this year well done
I've had to self-insert for my events as well, im not sure how you managed to pull 2-4 words out of my entire complaint and spin it to suggest that was my whole issue but it's fairly impressive. Im not arguing against self-inserting, but that is objectively what you did as part of the premise of your event.
This NPC in particular though had a macro-bomb with the premise that antags were suppose to meet with it at the unique, on-station structure (crew goes hubba hubba!!11!) but supposedly couldnt fight whatsoever or it went off and they got magically proc-call deleted from the ether if that macrobomb failed.
In regards to the comment "no one wants to man in a box for an hour", I know that isnt true because I have people everytime ive ran the shop gimmick want to be a bodyguard who literally just chills in "the box" for the entirety of the round. Again, I could really care less if you should or shouldnt have inserted yourself, I care much more about the shitty premise of the entire event as I described above in my initial post prior to the strawman.
Last edited by Cobby on Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:28 am, edited 1 time in total.
I'm with Cobby. If you do the shop right it's not too hard to find someone willing to protect it.
It's a license to get free valids.
That I dealt with so many players trying to steal stuff from medship fargo that I eventually looked into giving it explosive walls. I settled on turrets instead in the storage areas. If you wanted to weld in from space, dodge the two turrets, all so you could get the laser arm implant or xeno organs FINE WHATEVER GET SOMEONE TO IMPLANT IT YOU MADE A STORY. Players responded well to bounties too for would be theives.
NecromancerAnne wrote:I hate everything I have witnessed
do you need a hug?
sincerely,
bobbah "bee" brown
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i have no fucking idea whats this about but sticky is bad because hes a vegan
Mothblocks, winter 2020, “successfully” preventing bagil death with relevant data wrote:You seem to be under the fallacy that reinforcing that Bagil is a TDM shithole where you must carry bolas and spears on you at all times, while looking for the next valid to hunt down is a positive change to the server. I don't. The data suggests other people don't.
imsxz wrote:I give up there’s too many furries
cacogen wrote:i asked oranges how often he plays and he deleted the post
cybersaber101 wrote:Welp, you guys let a terrymin become a headmin, thousand years of darkness.
Vekter wrote:I jerk off Nist a bit too much but he's honestly one of the best silicon players on the server. B.O.R.G.O. is also pretty good.
Whats the deal with morons coming out of the woodwork to whine about using yourself to run the npc in a box role for an event instead of slamming him for being a loser in the ahelps which is both the actual issue and the substance of the complaint
kieth4 wrote:
infrequently shitting yourself is fine imo
There is a lot of very bizarre nonsense being talked on this forum. I shall now remain silent and logoff until my points are vindicated.
Player who complainted over being killed for looting cap office wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:33 am
Hey there, I'm Virescent, the super evil person who made the stupid appeal and didn't think it through enough. Just came here to say: screech, retards. Screech and writhe like the worms you are. Your pathetic little cries will keep echoing around for a while before quietting down. There is one great outcome from this: I rised up the blood pressure of some of you shitheads and lowered your lifespan. I'm honestly tempted to do this more often just to see you screech and writhe more, but that wouldn't be cool of me. So come on haters, show me some more of your high blood pressure please.
The only person who used the word self-insert is me and it’s not even my gripe with the situation, it was just the term I used to describe his action in the context I said above. Nabski is (I think) only agreeing with me in regards to people not wanting to do boring event roles, but again the self insert is hardly an issue but it is part of what he did (good or bad).
The entire premise of the event was shit whether or not he was the guy with the macro or he gave the role up. Doubly so when you consider the macro bomb was really just flavor as people would have been removed through proccalls.
The admin stuff is obviously cringe no point in arguing about that
oranges wrote:honestly holy shit deedubs you're a dent head
wesoda25 wrote:deedub is one of the people that makes me wish i could block users on forums
IkeTG wrote:every post from deedubya is worrying behavior
Super Aggro Crag wrote:you're a poo head!!!!!
TheMythicGhost wrote:You're a moron, but that's really nothing new since you're Deedubya, and really at this point I'm just playing an instrument by speaking since your head is so goddamn empty these words are resonating as they pass through.
Lazengann wrote:What's interesting about deedubya is the guy has no reading skills or comprehension and his ADHD is so severe he can't read through a single thread but he shows up to argue anyway
annoyinggreencatgirl wrote:you really are almost superhumanly retarded dude, holy smokes.
Mothblocks, winter 2020, “successfully” preventing bagil death with relevant data wrote:You seem to be under the fallacy that reinforcing that Bagil is a TDM shithole where you must carry bolas and spears on you at all times, while looking for the next valid to hunt down is a positive change to the server. I don't. The data suggests other people don't.
imsxz wrote:I give up there’s too many furries
cacogen wrote:i asked oranges how often he plays and he deleted the post
cybersaber101 wrote:Welp, you guys let a terrymin become a headmin, thousand years of darkness.
Vekter wrote:I jerk off Nist a bit too much but he's honestly one of the best silicon players on the server. B.O.R.G.O. is also pretty good.
In response to phuzzy's post, I would like to state that when I decided to announce that I have a radio implant my intention was to get it surgically removed and solidify my position as a law abiding crewmember
Stickymayhem wrote:~snip~ explanation of the ham-fist event round ~snip~
Last time admins ran this event, I was on the syndicate team and the admin-made good to capische self delete and re-insert revive themselves timely so they wouldnt interfere with our orbital asteroid syndicate base's steal or travel across the map in a way they could be seen, also with saying only the minimum amount of breifing required in bathrooms & maint and it was fine.
Moral of the story is, if admins ever step down onto the mortal plane, expend 5% of your maximum power to utterly robust them for their hubris to walk amongst mortals.
