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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

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Stickymayhem wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
wesoda25 wrote:fuck you and your country
Space Panda wrote:didn't have time to read it, but I think this is the link to the complete article

https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... ism_v6.pdf
Istoprocent1 wrote:Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?
XDTM wrote:I mean, only one of those two ideologies has genocide as the main goal
Armhulen wrote:Not gonna lie, any authoritarian state would be pretty much the worst outcome for a country that has the two founding ideals of liberty and equality
Ayy Lemoh wrote:This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.
[youtube]vXTnsnqvEgE[/youtube]
cacogen wrote:There's always this false equivalency between the left and right nowadays for some reason.
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?
Communism is not a single homogeneous belief. Just like capitalism, there are many different ideas about how it should work amongst its supporters.

Communism, in its core, has nothing to do with genocide. While there have been governments that claimed to be communist and commited atrocities against their own people, there have also been communist governments and movements that were responsible for positive change in their countries (e.g. Thomas Sankara's government of Burkina Faso, and many of the leftist movements that fought against the US-backed dictatorships in Latin America).
Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?
[youtube]QDWU-Y4fWIw[/youtube]
Armhulen wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?
[youtube]QDWU-Y4fWIw[/youtube]
no i sob into this graph which i have turned into a mousepad, pillowcase, poster, car ordainment, and festive wallpaper

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Stickymayhem wrote:antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb
Armhulen wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb
This big demon hunter is better than you think, but since the meta has gotten a bit aggro-y you'd actually be a bit better off putting in some AOE. And of course, add soulciologist if you have the dust.
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Iatots wrote:There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.
terranaut wrote:Image
Stickymayhem wrote:
Iatots wrote:There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.
if there's no global movement how did they install sleeper agents in all the schools and colleges?!?!?!?!
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote: Image
what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now
Armhulen wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote: Image
what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now
yes
Armhulen wrote:i want to craft this, but i just feel like i'm gonna be dead by turn 7. you know if i unpack this i'm totally going to slot this in
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Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote: yes
Is it overpowered like in WoW?

and you should play magic arena instead, nerd
terranaut wrote:he should play magic on cockatrice instead
terranaut wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
terranaut wrote:Image
t. national socialists
very wild accusation, scumbag

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Space Panda wrote:this is not wholesome at all
Stickymayhem wrote:
Space Panda wrote:this is not wholesome at all
i lied panda lets go do some terrorism
Armhulen wrote:lmfao this priest sure got terrorized alright

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Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case
I believe he meant that instead of trying to create a solid argument, you're just making lazy generalizations that support your opinion

and that's not very helpful for a debate
teepeepee wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.
lol are you really this delusional or are you trying to cover for your antifa buddy?
not only is there video evidence of this faggot being the one who charged the victim, he's been doxed to hell and back and said "I am 100% antifa all the way", Michael Forest Reinoehl's the name
just like you do when you call everyone to the left of mao "nazis", normal people call anyone that supports burning shit down cause criminals can't comply with police officers "antifa"
hope that solves your confusion
iksyp wrote:
known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures
terrorism is furthering political beliefs with violence, people dont have to die but its still terrorism
Vekter wrote:This thread fucking sucks.

I agree with Sticky and even I think this thread sucks.
Stickymayhem wrote:We've isolated the infection, time to cauterize the wound
Denton wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.
[youtube]vXTnsnqvEgE[/youtube]
I'm more of a Red Letter Media fan myself
oranges wrote:sticky starts drama

janitors claim people responding are the ones at fault
XSI wrote:This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?
FantasticFwoosh wrote:People will arrest you if you win a democratically won local election for leaning/representing nationist-conservative in Europe trimming any attempt to try; there is no alternative to soft or hard communism because our present age is obsessed with American imported humanitarianism to socialism and Russian work ethical propoganda straight off the presses of marxism. Minority rights are part of the Paris Peace treaties of WW2, but by no means are anybody obliged to continue following them, its just become societal norm.

The Democratic Party has really lost its way, still as racist but not as based from a certain point of view. Remember what they took from you.
[youtube]5OKdbc0DYpM[/youtube]

Republicans won the civil war and still remain as propped to defend the Ideals of America as ever. Conservatives on average are physically attractive, or least passionate about their political choices, without having to tap into 80 year old demographic rulings on how one person is 2% less common in the common population gets 25% more of a say or the way you were born; reaching across the whole spectrum. The Democratic party will actually stop your freedom if you are not a racial quota hitter.
Armhulen wrote:
XSI wrote:This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?
i wrote about this today
https://discordapp.com/channels/3268221 ... 1947656236
oranges wrote:fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever
Swept wrote:43r89y7u32872387g328ou7yyrgd


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Armhulen wrote:in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago

[youtube]_mem_nhhUEU[/youtube]
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago
all your replies are good buddy :ian:
Stickymayhem wrote:I kinda love that it's basically impossible to understand what fwoosh is arguing for or against.

I mean you can kinda assume but it's almost like a markov chain generator
IkeTG wrote:these pretzels are making me thirsty
Gigapuddi420 wrote:
oranges wrote:fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever
we have a lot of pretenders but nothing beats the original.
Stickymayhem wrote:Study of 900 politically motivated attacks from 1994 to may 2020
https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... y_v3_0.pdf

Killings since 1994:
Antifa: 0
Right-Wing: 329

If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.
GO FUCK YOURSELF
ok sorry
please don't do this
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Post by Stickymayhem » #574691

Space Panda wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
wesoda25 wrote:fuck you and your country
Space Panda wrote:didn't have time to read it, but I think this is the link to the complete article

https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... ism_v6.pdf
Istoprocent1 wrote:Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?
XDTM wrote:I mean, only one of those two ideologies has genocide as the main goal
Armhulen wrote:Not gonna lie, any authoritarian state would be pretty much the worst outcome for a country that has the two founding ideals of liberty and equality
Ayy Lemoh wrote:This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.
[youtube]vXTnsnqvEgE[/youtube]
cacogen wrote:There's always this false equivalency between the left and right nowadays for some reason.
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?
Communism is not a single homogeneous belief. Just like capitalism, there are many different ideas about how it should work amongst its supporters.

Communism, in its core, has nothing to do with genocide. While there have been governments that claimed to be communist and commited atrocities against their own people, there have also been communist governments and movements that were responsible for positive change in their countries (e.g. Thomas Sankara's government of Burkina Faso, and many of the leftist movements that fought against the US-backed dictatorships in Latin America).
Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?
[youtube]QDWU-Y4fWIw[/youtube]
Armhulen wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?
[youtube]QDWU-Y4fWIw[/youtube]
no i sob into this graph which i have turned into a mousepad, pillowcase, poster, car ordainment, and festive wallpaper

Image
Stickymayhem wrote:antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb
Armhulen wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb
This big demon hunter is better than you think, but since the meta has gotten a bit aggro-y you'd actually be a bit better off putting in some AOE. And of course, add soulciologist if you have the dust.
Image
Iatots wrote:There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.
terranaut wrote:Image
Stickymayhem wrote:
Iatots wrote:There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.
if there's no global movement how did they install sleeper agents in all the schools and colleges?!?!?!?!
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote: Image
what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now
Armhulen wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote: Image
what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now
yes
Armhulen wrote:i want to craft this, but i just feel like i'm gonna be dead by turn 7. you know if i unpack this i'm totally going to slot this in
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Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote: yes
Is it overpowered like in WoW?

and you should play magic arena instead, nerd
terranaut wrote:he should play magic on cockatrice instead
terranaut wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
terranaut wrote:Image
t. national socialists
very wild accusation, scumbag

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Space Panda wrote:this is not wholesome at all
Stickymayhem wrote:
Space Panda wrote:this is not wholesome at all
i lied panda lets go do some terrorism
Armhulen wrote:lmfao this priest sure got terrorized alright

Image
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case
I believe he meant that instead of trying to create a solid argument, you're just making lazy generalizations that support your opinion

and that's not very helpful for a debate
teepeepee wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.
lol are you really this delusional or are you trying to cover for your antifa buddy?
not only is there video evidence of this faggot being the one who charged the victim, he's been doxed to hell and back and said "I am 100% antifa all the way", Michael Forest Reinoehl's the name
just like you do when you call everyone to the left of mao "nazis", normal people call anyone that supports burning shit down cause criminals can't comply with police officers "antifa"
hope that solves your confusion
iksyp wrote:
known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures
terrorism is furthering political beliefs with violence, people dont have to die but its still terrorism
Vekter wrote:This thread fucking sucks.

I agree with Sticky and even I think this thread sucks.
Stickymayhem wrote:We've isolated the infection, time to cauterize the wound
Denton wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.
[youtube]vXTnsnqvEgE[/youtube]
I'm more of a Red Letter Media fan myself
oranges wrote:sticky starts drama

janitors claim people responding are the ones at fault
XSI wrote:This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?
FantasticFwoosh wrote:People will arrest you if you win a democratically won local election for leaning/representing nationist-conservative in Europe trimming any attempt to try; there is no alternative to soft or hard communism because our present age is obsessed with American imported humanitarianism to socialism and Russian work ethical propoganda straight off the presses of marxism. Minority rights are part of the Paris Peace treaties of WW2, but by no means are anybody obliged to continue following them, its just become societal norm.

The Democratic Party has really lost its way, still as racist but not as based from a certain point of view. Remember what they took from you.
[youtube]5OKdbc0DYpM[/youtube]

Republicans won the civil war and still remain as propped to defend the Ideals of America as ever. Conservatives on average are physically attractive, or least passionate about their political choices, without having to tap into 80 year old demographic rulings on how one person is 2% less common in the common population gets 25% more of a say or the way you were born; reaching across the whole spectrum. The Democratic party will actually stop your freedom if you are not a racial quota hitter.
Armhulen wrote:
XSI wrote:This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?
i wrote about this today
https://discordapp.com/channels/3268221 ... 1947656236
oranges wrote:fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever
Swept wrote:43r89y7u32872387g328ou7yyrgd


ewfiuwegfiu7weghfoiweugfo89gf239p8383833333


ew89hf98234hfr239832h98322222222222222222222


iuwqbduwqqw------------------------------

fdjwew
Armhulen wrote:in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago

[youtube]_mem_nhhUEU[/youtube]
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago
all your replies are good buddy :ian:
Stickymayhem wrote:I kinda love that it's basically impossible to understand what fwoosh is arguing for or against.

I mean you can kinda assume but it's almost like a markov chain generator
IkeTG wrote:these pretzels are making me thirsty
Gigapuddi420 wrote:
oranges wrote:fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever
we have a lot of pretenders but nothing beats the original.
Stickymayhem wrote:Study of 900 politically motivated attacks from 1994 to may 2020
https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... y_v3_0.pdf

Killings since 1994:
Antifa: 0
Right-Wing: 329

If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.
GO FUCK YOURSELF
ok sorry
please don't do this
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism
Unread postby Stickymayhem » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:36 am #574691

Space Panda wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
wesoda25 wrote:
fuck you and your country
Space Panda wrote:
didn't have time to read it, but I think this is the link to the complete article

https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... ism_v6.pdf
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?
XDTM wrote:
I mean, only one of those two ideologies has genocide as the main goal
Armhulen wrote:
Not gonna lie, any authoritarian state would be pretty much the worst outcome for a country that has the two founding ideals of liberty and equality
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.

cacogen wrote:
There's always this false equivalency between the left and right nowadays for some reason.
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?


Communism is not a single homogeneous belief. Just like capitalism, there are many different ideas about how it should work amongst its supporters.

Communism, in its core, has nothing to do with genocide. While there have been governments that claimed to be communist and commited atrocities against their own people, there have also been communist governments and movements that were responsible for positive change in their countries (e.g. Thomas Sankara's government of Burkina Faso, and many of the leftist movements that fought against the US-backed dictatorships in Latin America).
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?

Armhulen wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?


no i sob into this graph which i have turned into a mousepad, pillowcase, poster, car ordainment, and festive wallpaper

Image
Stickymayhem wrote:
antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb
Armhulen wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb

This big demon hunter is better than you think, but since the meta has gotten a bit aggro-y you'd actually be a bit better off putting in some AOE. And of course, add soulciologist if you have the dust.
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Iatots wrote:
There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.
terranaut wrote:
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Stickymayhem wrote:
Iatots wrote:
There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.


if there's no global movement how did they install sleeper agents in all the schools and colleges?!?!?!?!
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
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what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now
Armhulen wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
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what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now

yes
Armhulen wrote:
i want to craft this, but i just feel like i'm gonna be dead by turn 7. you know if i unpack this i'm totally going to slot this in
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Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
yes

Is it overpowered like in WoW?

and you should play magic arena instead, nerd
terranaut wrote:
he should play magic on cockatrice instead
terranaut wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
terranaut wrote:
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t. national socialists


very wild accusation, scumbag

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Space Panda wrote:
this is not wholesome at all
Stickymayhem wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
this is not wholesome at all


i lied panda lets go do some terrorism
Armhulen wrote:
lmfao this priest sure got terrorized alright

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Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case


I believe he meant that instead of trying to create a solid argument, you're just making lazy generalizations that support your opinion

and that's not very helpful for a debate
teepeepee wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

lol are you really this delusional or are you trying to cover for your antifa buddy?
not only is there video evidence of this faggot being the one who charged the victim, he's been doxed to hell and back and said "I am 100% antifa all the way", Michael Forest Reinoehl's the name
just like you do when you call everyone to the left of mao "nazis", normal people call anyone that supports burning shit down cause criminals can't comply with police officers "antifa"
hope that solves your confusion
iksyp wrote:
known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

terrorism is furthering political beliefs with violence, people dont have to die but its still terrorism
Vekter wrote:
This thread fucking sucks.

I agree with Sticky and even I think this thread sucks.
Stickymayhem wrote:
We've isolated the infection, time to cauterize the wound
Denton wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.


I'm more of a Red Letter Media fan myself
oranges wrote:
sticky starts drama

janitors claim people responding are the ones at fault
XSI wrote:
This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?
FantasticFwoosh wrote:
People will arrest you if you win a democratically won local election for leaning/representing nationist-conservative in Europe trimming any attempt to try; there is no alternative to soft or hard communism because our present age is obsessed with American imported humanitarianism to socialism and Russian work ethical propoganda straight off the presses of marxism. Minority rights are part of the Paris Peace treaties of WW2, but by no means are anybody obliged to continue following them, its just become societal norm.

The Democratic Party has really lost its way, still as racist but not as based from a certain point of view. Remember what they took from you.


Republicans won the civil war and still remain as propped to defend the Ideals of America as ever. Conservatives on average are physically attractive, or least passionate about their political choices, without having to tap into 80 year old demographic rulings on how one person is 2% less common in the common population gets 25% more of a say or the way you were born; reaching across the whole spectrum. The Democratic party will actually stop your freedom if you are not a racial quota hitter.
Armhulen wrote:
XSI wrote:
This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?

i wrote about this today
https://discordapp.com/channels/3268221 ... 1947656236
oranges wrote:
fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever
Swept wrote:
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ewfiuwegfiu7weghfoiweugfo89gf239p8383833333


ew89hf98234hfr239832h98322222222222222222222


iuwqbduwqqw------------------------------

fdjwew
Armhulen wrote:
in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago


Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago


all your replies are good buddy :ian:
Stickymayhem wrote:
I kinda love that it's basically impossible to understand what fwoosh is arguing for or against.

I mean you can kinda assume but it's almost like a markov chain generator
IkeTG wrote:
these pretzels are making me thirsty
Gigapuddi420 wrote:
oranges wrote:
fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever

we have a lot of pretenders but nothing beats the original.
Stickymayhem wrote:
Study of 900 politically motivated attacks from 1994 to may 2020
https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... y_v3_0.pdf

Killings since 1994:
Antifa: 0
Right-Wing: 329

If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

GO FUCK YOURSELF


ok sorry


please don't do this


sorry
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism
Unread postby Stickymayhem » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:36 am #574691

Space Panda wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
wesoda25 wrote:
fuck you and your country
Space Panda wrote:
didn't have time to read it, but I think this is the link to the complete article

https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... ism_v6.pdf
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?
XDTM wrote:
I mean, only one of those two ideologies has genocide as the main goal
Armhulen wrote:
Not gonna lie, any authoritarian state would be pretty much the worst outcome for a country that has the two founding ideals of liberty and equality
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.

cacogen wrote:
There's always this false equivalency between the left and right nowadays for some reason.
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?


Communism is not a single homogeneous belief. Just like capitalism, there are many different ideas about how it should work amongst its supporters.

Communism, in its core, has nothing to do with genocide. While there have been governments that claimed to be communist and commited atrocities against their own people, there have also been communist governments and movements that were responsible for positive change in their countries (e.g. Thomas Sankara's government of Burkina Faso, and many of the leftist movements that fought against the US-backed dictatorships in Latin America).
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?

Armhulen wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?


no i sob into this graph which i have turned into a mousepad, pillowcase, poster, car ordainment, and festive wallpaper

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Stickymayhem wrote:
antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb
Armhulen wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb

This big demon hunter is better than you think, but since the meta has gotten a bit aggro-y you'd actually be a bit better off putting in some AOE. And of course, add soulciologist if you have the dust.
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Iatots wrote:
There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.
terranaut wrote:
Image
Stickymayhem wrote:
Iatots wrote:
There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.


if there's no global movement how did they install sleeper agents in all the schools and colleges?!?!?!?!
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
Image


what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now
Armhulen wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
Image


what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now

yes
Armhulen wrote:
i want to craft this, but i just feel like i'm gonna be dead by turn 7. you know if i unpack this i'm totally going to slot this in
Image
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
yes

Is it overpowered like in WoW?

and you should play magic arena instead, nerd
terranaut wrote:
he should play magic on cockatrice instead
terranaut wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
terranaut wrote:
Image


t. national socialists


very wild accusation, scumbag

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Space Panda wrote:
this is not wholesome at all
Stickymayhem wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
this is not wholesome at all


i lied panda lets go do some terrorism
Armhulen wrote:
lmfao this priest sure got terrorized alright

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Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case


I believe he meant that instead of trying to create a solid argument, you're just making lazy generalizations that support your opinion

and that's not very helpful for a debate
teepeepee wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

lol are you really this delusional or are you trying to cover for your antifa buddy?
not only is there video evidence of this faggot being the one who charged the victim, he's been doxed to hell and back and said "I am 100% antifa all the way", Michael Forest Reinoehl's the name
just like you do when you call everyone to the left of mao "nazis", normal people call anyone that supports burning shit down cause criminals can't comply with police officers "antifa"
hope that solves your confusion
iksyp wrote:
known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

terrorism is furthering political beliefs with violence, people dont have to die but its still terrorism
Vekter wrote:
This thread fucking sucks.

I agree with Sticky and even I think this thread sucks.
Stickymayhem wrote:
We've isolated the infection, time to cauterize the wound
Denton wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.


I'm more of a Red Letter Media fan myself
oranges wrote:
sticky starts drama

janitors claim people responding are the ones at fault
XSI wrote:
This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?
FantasticFwoosh wrote:
People will arrest you if you win a democratically won local election for leaning/representing nationist-conservative in Europe trimming any attempt to try; there is no alternative to soft or hard communism because our present age is obsessed with American imported humanitarianism to socialism and Russian work ethical propoganda straight off the presses of marxism. Minority rights are part of the Paris Peace treaties of WW2, but by no means are anybody obliged to continue following them, its just become societal norm.

The Democratic Party has really lost its way, still as racist but not as based from a certain point of view. Remember what they took from you.


Republicans won the civil war and still remain as propped to defend the Ideals of America as ever. Conservatives on average are physically attractive, or least passionate about their political choices, without having to tap into 80 year old demographic rulings on how one person is 2% less common in the common population gets 25% more of a say or the way you were born; reaching across the whole spectrum. The Democratic party will actually stop your freedom if you are not a racial quota hitter.
Armhulen wrote:
XSI wrote:
This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?

i wrote about this today
https://discordapp.com/channels/3268221 ... 1947656236
oranges wrote:
fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever
Swept wrote:
43r89y7u32872387g328ou7yyrgd


ewfiuwegfiu7weghfoiweugfo89gf239p8383833333


ew89hf98234hfr239832h98322222222222222222222


iuwqbduwqqw------------------------------

fdjwew
Armhulen wrote:
in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago


Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago


all your replies are good buddy :ian:
Stickymayhem wrote:
I kinda love that it's basically impossible to understand what fwoosh is arguing for or against.

I mean you can kinda assume but it's almost like a markov chain generator
IkeTG wrote:
these pretzels are making me thirsty
Gigapuddi420 wrote:
oranges wrote:
fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever

we have a lot of pretenders but nothing beats the original.
Stickymayhem wrote:
Study of 900 politically motivated attacks from 1994 to may 2020
https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... y_v3_0.pdf

Killings since 1994:
Antifa: 0
Right-Wing: 329

If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

GO FUCK YOURSELF


ok sorry


please don't do this


sorry
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism
Unread postby trollbreeder » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:40 am #574695

STOP WITH THE QUOTECEPTION YOU ARE RECKONING THE WRATH OF THE FORUM JANNIES
I'm a dumb feature coder, also a bad (but not terrible) coderspriter and a semi-good mapper and an enforcer of standards.
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism
Unread postby Stickymayhem » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:36 am #574691

Space Panda wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
wesoda25 wrote:
fuck you and your country
Space Panda wrote:
didn't have time to read it, but I think this is the link to the complete article

https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... ism_v6.pdf
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?
XDTM wrote:
I mean, only one of those two ideologies has genocide as the main goal
Armhulen wrote:
Not gonna lie, any authoritarian state would be pretty much the worst outcome for a country that has the two founding ideals of liberty and equality
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.

cacogen wrote:
There's always this false equivalency between the left and right nowadays for some reason.
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?


Communism is not a single homogeneous belief. Just like capitalism, there are many different ideas about how it should work amongst its supporters.

Communism, in its core, has nothing to do with genocide. While there have been governments that claimed to be communist and commited atrocities against their own people, there have also been communist governments and movements that were responsible for positive change in their countries (e.g. Thomas Sankara's government of Burkina Faso, and many of the leftist movements that fought against the US-backed dictatorships in Latin America).
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?

Armhulen wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?


no i sob into this graph which i have turned into a mousepad, pillowcase, poster, car ordainment, and festive wallpaper

Image
Stickymayhem wrote:
antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb
Armhulen wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb

This big demon hunter is better than you think, but since the meta has gotten a bit aggro-y you'd actually be a bit better off putting in some AOE. And of course, add soulciologist if you have the dust.
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Iatots wrote:
There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.
terranaut wrote:
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Stickymayhem wrote:
Iatots wrote:
There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.


if there's no global movement how did they install sleeper agents in all the schools and colleges?!?!?!?!
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
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what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now
Armhulen wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
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what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now

yes
Armhulen wrote:
i want to craft this, but i just feel like i'm gonna be dead by turn 7. you know if i unpack this i'm totally going to slot this in
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Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
yes

Is it overpowered like in WoW?

and you should play magic arena instead, nerd
terranaut wrote:
he should play magic on cockatrice instead
terranaut wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
terranaut wrote:
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t. national socialists


very wild accusation, scumbag

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Space Panda wrote:
this is not wholesome at all
Stickymayhem wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
this is not wholesome at all


i lied panda lets go do some terrorism
Armhulen wrote:
lmfao this priest sure got terrorized alright

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Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case


I believe he meant that instead of trying to create a solid argument, you're just making lazy generalizations that support your opinion

and that's not very helpful for a debate
teepeepee wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

lol are you really this delusional or are you trying to cover for your antifa buddy?
not only is there video evidence of this faggot being the one who charged the victim, he's been doxed to hell and back and said "I am 100% antifa all the way", Michael Forest Reinoehl's the name
just like you do when you call everyone to the left of mao "nazis", normal people call anyone that supports burning shit down cause criminals can't comply with police officers "antifa"
hope that solves your confusion
iksyp wrote:
known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

terrorism is furthering political beliefs with violence, people dont have to die but its still terrorism
Vekter wrote:
This thread fucking sucks.

I agree with Sticky and even I think this thread sucks.
Stickymayhem wrote:
We've isolated the infection, time to cauterize the wound
Denton wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.


I'm more of a Red Letter Media fan myself
oranges wrote:
sticky starts drama

janitors claim people responding are the ones at fault
XSI wrote:
This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?
FantasticFwoosh wrote:
People will arrest you if you win a democratically won local election for leaning/representing nationist-conservative in Europe trimming any attempt to try; there is no alternative to soft or hard communism because our present age is obsessed with American imported humanitarianism to socialism and Russian work ethical propoganda straight off the presses of marxism. Minority rights are part of the Paris Peace treaties of WW2, but by no means are anybody obliged to continue following them, its just become societal norm.

The Democratic Party has really lost its way, still as racist but not as based from a certain point of view. Remember what they took from you.


Republicans won the civil war and still remain as propped to defend the Ideals of America as ever. Conservatives on average are physically attractive, or least passionate about their political choices, without having to tap into 80 year old demographic rulings on how one person is 2% less common in the common population gets 25% more of a say or the way you were born; reaching across the whole spectrum. The Democratic party will actually stop your freedom if you are not a racial quota hitter.
Armhulen wrote:
XSI wrote:
This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?

i wrote about this today
https://discordapp.com/channels/3268221 ... 1947656236
oranges wrote:
fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever
Swept wrote:
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Armhulen wrote:
in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago


Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago


all your replies are good buddy :ian:
Stickymayhem wrote:
I kinda love that it's basically impossible to understand what fwoosh is arguing for or against.

I mean you can kinda assume but it's almost like a markov chain generator
IkeTG wrote:
these pretzels are making me thirsty
Gigapuddi420 wrote:
oranges wrote:
fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever

we have a lot of pretenders but nothing beats the original.
Stickymayhem wrote:
Study of 900 politically motivated attacks from 1994 to may 2020
https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... y_v3_0.pdf

Killings since 1994:
Antifa: 0
Right-Wing: 329

If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

GO FUCK YOURSELF


ok sorry


please don't do this


sorry
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism
Unread postby Stickymayhem » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:36 am #574691

Space Panda wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
wesoda25 wrote:
fuck you and your country
Space Panda wrote:
didn't have time to read it, but I think this is the link to the complete article

https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... ism_v6.pdf
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?
XDTM wrote:
I mean, only one of those two ideologies has genocide as the main goal
Armhulen wrote:
Not gonna lie, any authoritarian state would be pretty much the worst outcome for a country that has the two founding ideals of liberty and equality
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.

cacogen wrote:
There's always this false equivalency between the left and right nowadays for some reason.
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?


Communism is not a single homogeneous belief. Just like capitalism, there are many different ideas about how it should work amongst its supporters.

Communism, in its core, has nothing to do with genocide. While there have been governments that claimed to be communist and commited atrocities against their own people, there have also been communist governments and movements that were responsible for positive change in their countries (e.g. Thomas Sankara's government of Burkina Faso, and many of the leftist movements that fought against the US-backed dictatorships in Latin America).
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?

Armhulen wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?


no i sob into this graph which i have turned into a mousepad, pillowcase, poster, car ordainment, and festive wallpaper

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Stickymayhem wrote:
antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb
Armhulen wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb

This big demon hunter is better than you think, but since the meta has gotten a bit aggro-y you'd actually be a bit better off putting in some AOE. And of course, add soulciologist if you have the dust.
Image
Iatots wrote:
There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.
terranaut wrote:
Image
Stickymayhem wrote:
Iatots wrote:
There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.


if there's no global movement how did they install sleeper agents in all the schools and colleges?!?!?!?!
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
Image


what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now
Armhulen wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
Image


what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now

yes
Armhulen wrote:
i want to craft this, but i just feel like i'm gonna be dead by turn 7. you know if i unpack this i'm totally going to slot this in
Image
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
yes

Is it overpowered like in WoW?

and you should play magic arena instead, nerd
terranaut wrote:
he should play magic on cockatrice instead
terranaut wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
terranaut wrote:
Image


t. national socialists


very wild accusation, scumbag

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Space Panda wrote:
this is not wholesome at all
Stickymayhem wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
this is not wholesome at all


i lied panda lets go do some terrorism
Armhulen wrote:
lmfao this priest sure got terrorized alright

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Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case


I believe he meant that instead of trying to create a solid argument, you're just making lazy generalizations that support your opinion

and that's not very helpful for a debate
teepeepee wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

lol are you really this delusional or are you trying to cover for your antifa buddy?
not only is there video evidence of this faggot being the one who charged the victim, he's been doxed to hell and back and said "I am 100% antifa all the way", Michael Forest Reinoehl's the name
just like you do when you call everyone to the left of mao "nazis", normal people call anyone that supports burning shit down cause criminals can't comply with police officers "antifa"
hope that solves your confusion
iksyp wrote:
known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

terrorism is furthering political beliefs with violence, people dont have to die but its still terrorism
Vekter wrote:
This thread fucking sucks.

I agree with Sticky and even I think this thread sucks.
Stickymayhem wrote:
We've isolated the infection, time to cauterize the wound
Denton wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.


I'm more of a Red Letter Media fan myself
oranges wrote:
sticky starts drama

janitors claim people responding are the ones at fault
XSI wrote:
This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?
FantasticFwoosh wrote:
People will arrest you if you win a democratically won local election for leaning/representing nationist-conservative in Europe trimming any attempt to try; there is no alternative to soft or hard communism because our present age is obsessed with American imported humanitarianism to socialism and Russian work ethical propoganda straight off the presses of marxism. Minority rights are part of the Paris Peace treaties of WW2, but by no means are anybody obliged to continue following them, its just become societal norm.

The Democratic Party has really lost its way, still as racist but not as based from a certain point of view. Remember what they took from you.


Republicans won the civil war and still remain as propped to defend the Ideals of America as ever. Conservatives on average are physically attractive, or least passionate about their political choices, without having to tap into 80 year old demographic rulings on how one person is 2% less common in the common population gets 25% more of a say or the way you were born; reaching across the whole spectrum. The Democratic party will actually stop your freedom if you are not a racial quota hitter.
Armhulen wrote:
XSI wrote:
This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?

i wrote about this today
https://discordapp.com/channels/3268221 ... 1947656236
oranges wrote:
fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever
Swept wrote:
43r89y7u32872387g328ou7yyrgd


ewfiuwegfiu7weghfoiweugfo89gf239p8383833333


ew89hf98234hfr239832h98322222222222222222222


iuwqbduwqqw------------------------------

fdjwew
Armhulen wrote:
in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago


Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago


all your replies are good buddy :ian:
Stickymayhem wrote:
I kinda love that it's basically impossible to understand what fwoosh is arguing for or against.

I mean you can kinda assume but it's almost like a markov chain generator
IkeTG wrote:
these pretzels are making me thirsty
Gigapuddi420 wrote:
oranges wrote:
fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever

we have a lot of pretenders but nothing beats the original.
Stickymayhem wrote:
Study of 900 politically motivated attacks from 1994 to may 2020
https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... y_v3_0.pdf

Killings since 1994:
Antifa: 0
Right-Wing: 329

If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

GO FUCK YOURSELF


ok sorry


please don't do this


sorry
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism
Unread postby trollbreeder » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:40 am #574695

STOP WITH THE QUOTECEPTION YOU ARE RECKONING THE WRATH OF THE FORUM JANNIES
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism
Unread postby Space Panda » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:57 am #574697

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism
Unread postby Stickymayhem » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:36 am #574691

Space Panda wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
wesoda25 wrote:
fuck you and your country
Space Panda wrote:
didn't have time to read it, but I think this is the link to the complete article

https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... ism_v6.pdf
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?
XDTM wrote:
I mean, only one of those two ideologies has genocide as the main goal
Armhulen wrote:
Not gonna lie, any authoritarian state would be pretty much the worst outcome for a country that has the two founding ideals of liberty and equality
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.

cacogen wrote:
There's always this false equivalency between the left and right nowadays for some reason.
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?


Communism is not a single homogeneous belief. Just like capitalism, there are many different ideas about how it should work amongst its supporters.

Communism, in its core, has nothing to do with genocide. While there have been governments that claimed to be communist and commited atrocities against their own people, there have also been communist governments and movements that were responsible for positive change in their countries (e.g. Thomas Sankara's government of Burkina Faso, and many of the leftist movements that fought against the US-backed dictatorships in Latin America).
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?

Armhulen wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?


no i sob into this graph which i have turned into a mousepad, pillowcase, poster, car ordainment, and festive wallpaper

Image
Stickymayhem wrote:
antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb
Armhulen wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb

This big demon hunter is better than you think, but since the meta has gotten a bit aggro-y you'd actually be a bit better off putting in some AOE. And of course, add soulciologist if you have the dust.
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Iatots wrote:
There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.
terranaut wrote:
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Stickymayhem wrote:
Iatots wrote:
There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.


if there's no global movement how did they install sleeper agents in all the schools and colleges?!?!?!?!
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
Image


what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now
Armhulen wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
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what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now

yes
Armhulen wrote:
i want to craft this, but i just feel like i'm gonna be dead by turn 7. you know if i unpack this i'm totally going to slot this in
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Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
yes

Is it overpowered like in WoW?

and you should play magic arena instead, nerd
terranaut wrote:
he should play magic on cockatrice instead
terranaut wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
terranaut wrote:
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t. national socialists


very wild accusation, scumbag

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Space Panda wrote:
this is not wholesome at all
Stickymayhem wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
this is not wholesome at all


i lied panda lets go do some terrorism
Armhulen wrote:
lmfao this priest sure got terrorized alright

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Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case


I believe he meant that instead of trying to create a solid argument, you're just making lazy generalizations that support your opinion

and that's not very helpful for a debate
teepeepee wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

lol are you really this delusional or are you trying to cover for your antifa buddy?
not only is there video evidence of this faggot being the one who charged the victim, he's been doxed to hell and back and said "I am 100% antifa all the way", Michael Forest Reinoehl's the name
just like you do when you call everyone to the left of mao "nazis", normal people call anyone that supports burning shit down cause criminals can't comply with police officers "antifa"
hope that solves your confusion
iksyp wrote:
known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

terrorism is furthering political beliefs with violence, people dont have to die but its still terrorism
Vekter wrote:
This thread fucking sucks.

I agree with Sticky and even I think this thread sucks.
Stickymayhem wrote:
We've isolated the infection, time to cauterize the wound
Denton wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.


I'm more of a Red Letter Media fan myself
oranges wrote:
sticky starts drama

janitors claim people responding are the ones at fault
XSI wrote:
This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?
FantasticFwoosh wrote:
People will arrest you if you win a democratically won local election for leaning/representing nationist-conservative in Europe trimming any attempt to try; there is no alternative to soft or hard communism because our present age is obsessed with American imported humanitarianism to socialism and Russian work ethical propoganda straight off the presses of marxism. Minority rights are part of the Paris Peace treaties of WW2, but by no means are anybody obliged to continue following them, its just become societal norm.

The Democratic Party has really lost its way, still as racist but not as based from a certain point of view. Remember what they took from you.


Republicans won the civil war and still remain as propped to defend the Ideals of America as ever. Conservatives on average are physically attractive, or least passionate about their political choices, without having to tap into 80 year old demographic rulings on how one person is 2% less common in the common population gets 25% more of a say or the way you were born; reaching across the whole spectrum. The Democratic party will actually stop your freedom if you are not a racial quota hitter.
Armhulen wrote:
XSI wrote:
This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?

i wrote about this today
https://discordapp.com/channels/3268221 ... 1947656236
oranges wrote:
fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever
Swept wrote:
43r89y7u32872387g328ou7yyrgd


ewfiuwegfiu7weghfoiweugfo89gf239p8383833333


ew89hf98234hfr239832h98322222222222222222222


iuwqbduwqqw------------------------------

fdjwew
Armhulen wrote:
in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago


Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago


all your replies are good buddy :ian:
Stickymayhem wrote:
I kinda love that it's basically impossible to understand what fwoosh is arguing for or against.

I mean you can kinda assume but it's almost like a markov chain generator
IkeTG wrote:
these pretzels are making me thirsty
Gigapuddi420 wrote:
oranges wrote:
fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever

we have a lot of pretenders but nothing beats the original.
Stickymayhem wrote:
Study of 900 politically motivated attacks from 1994 to may 2020
https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... y_v3_0.pdf

Killings since 1994:
Antifa: 0
Right-Wing: 329

If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

GO FUCK YOURSELF


ok sorry


please don't do this


sorry
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

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Stickymayhem wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
wesoda25 wrote:fuck you and your country
Space Panda wrote:didn't have time to read it, but I think this is the link to the complete article

https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... ism_v6.pdf
Istoprocent1 wrote:Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?
XDTM wrote:I mean, only one of those two ideologies has genocide as the main goal
Armhulen wrote:Not gonna lie, any authoritarian state would be pretty much the worst outcome for a country that has the two founding ideals of liberty and equality
Ayy Lemoh wrote:This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.
[youtube]vXTnsnqvEgE[/youtube]
cacogen wrote:There's always this false equivalency between the left and right nowadays for some reason.
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?
Communism is not a single homogeneous belief. Just like capitalism, there are many different ideas about how it should work amongst its supporters.

Communism, in its core, has nothing to do with genocide. While there have been governments that claimed to be communist and commited atrocities against their own people, there have also been communist governments and movements that were responsible for positive change in their countries (e.g. Thomas Sankara's government of Burkina Faso, and many of the leftist movements that fought against the US-backed dictatorships in Latin America).
Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?
[youtube]QDWU-Y4fWIw[/youtube]
Armhulen wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?
[youtube]QDWU-Y4fWIw[/youtube]
no i sob into this graph which i have turned into a mousepad, pillowcase, poster, car ordainment, and festive wallpaper

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Stickymayhem wrote:antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb
Armhulen wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb
This big demon hunter is better than you think, but since the meta has gotten a bit aggro-y you'd actually be a bit better off putting in some AOE. And of course, add soulciologist if you have the dust.
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Iatots wrote:There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.
terranaut wrote:Image
Stickymayhem wrote:
Iatots wrote:There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.
if there's no global movement how did they install sleeper agents in all the schools and colleges?!?!?!?!
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote: Image
what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now
Armhulen wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote: Image
what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now
yes
Armhulen wrote:i want to craft this, but i just feel like i'm gonna be dead by turn 7. you know if i unpack this i'm totally going to slot this in
Image
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote: yes
Is it overpowered like in WoW?

and you should play magic arena instead, nerd
terranaut wrote:he should play magic on cockatrice instead
terranaut wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
terranaut wrote:Image
t. national socialists
very wild accusation, scumbag

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Space Panda wrote:this is not wholesome at all
Stickymayhem wrote:
Space Panda wrote:this is not wholesome at all
i lied panda lets go do some terrorism
Armhulen wrote:lmfao this priest sure got terrorized alright

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Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case
I believe he meant that instead of trying to create a solid argument, you're just making lazy generalizations that support your opinion

and that's not very helpful for a debate
teepeepee wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.
lol are you really this delusional or are you trying to cover for your antifa buddy?
not only is there video evidence of this faggot being the one who charged the victim, he's been doxed to hell and back and said "I am 100% antifa all the way", Michael Forest Reinoehl's the name
just like you do when you call everyone to the left of mao "nazis", normal people call anyone that supports burning shit down cause criminals can't comply with police officers "antifa"
hope that solves your confusion
iksyp wrote:
known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures
terrorism is furthering political beliefs with violence, people dont have to die but its still terrorism
Vekter wrote:This thread fucking sucks.

I agree with Sticky and even I think this thread sucks.
Stickymayhem wrote:We've isolated the infection, time to cauterize the wound
Denton wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.
[youtube]vXTnsnqvEgE[/youtube]
I'm more of a Red Letter Media fan myself
oranges wrote:sticky starts drama

janitors claim people responding are the ones at fault
XSI wrote:This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?
FantasticFwoosh wrote:People will arrest you if you win a democratically won local election for leaning/representing nationist-conservative in Europe trimming any attempt to try; there is no alternative to soft or hard communism because our present age is obsessed with American imported humanitarianism to socialism and Russian work ethical propoganda straight off the presses of marxism. Minority rights are part of the Paris Peace treaties of WW2, but by no means are anybody obliged to continue following them, its just become societal norm.

The Democratic Party has really lost its way, still as racist but not as based from a certain point of view. Remember what they took from you.
[youtube]5OKdbc0DYpM[/youtube]

Republicans won the civil war and still remain as propped to defend the Ideals of America as ever. Conservatives on average are physically attractive, or least passionate about their political choices, without having to tap into 80 year old demographic rulings on how one person is 2% less common in the common population gets 25% more of a say or the way you were born; reaching across the whole spectrum. The Democratic party will actually stop your freedom if you are not a racial quota hitter.
Armhulen wrote:
XSI wrote:This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?
i wrote about this today
https://discordapp.com/channels/3268221 ... 1947656236
oranges wrote:fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever
Swept wrote:43r89y7u32872387g328ou7yyrgd


ewfiuwegfiu7weghfoiweugfo89gf239p8383833333


ew89hf98234hfr239832h98322222222222222222222


iuwqbduwqqw------------------------------

fdjwew
Armhulen wrote:in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago

[youtube]_mem_nhhUEU[/youtube]
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago
all your replies are good buddy :ian:
Stickymayhem wrote:I kinda love that it's basically impossible to understand what fwoosh is arguing for or against.

I mean you can kinda assume but it's almost like a markov chain generator
IkeTG wrote:these pretzels are making me thirsty
Gigapuddi420 wrote:
oranges wrote:fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever
we have a lot of pretenders but nothing beats the original.
Stickymayhem wrote:Study of 900 politically motivated attacks from 1994 to may 2020
https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... y_v3_0.pdf

Killings since 1994:
Antifa: 0
Right-Wing: 329

If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.
GO FUCK YOURSELF
ok sorry
please don't do this
sorry
Stickymayhem wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
wesoda25 wrote:fuck you and your country
Space Panda wrote:didn't have time to read it, but I think this is the link to the complete article

https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... ism_v6.pdf
Istoprocent1 wrote:Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?
XDTM wrote:I mean, only one of those two ideologies has genocide as the main goal
Armhulen wrote:
Not gonna lie, any authoritarian state would be pretty much the worst outcome for a country that has the two founding ideals of liberty and equality
Ayy Lemoh wrote:This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.
[youtube]vXTnsnqvEgE[/youtube]
cacogen wrote:There's always this false equivalency between the left and right nowadays for some reason.
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?
Communism is not a single homogeneous belief. Just like capitalism, there are many different ideas about how it should work amongst its supporters.

Communism, in its core, has nothing to do with genocide. While there have been governments that claimed to be communist and commited atrocities against their own people, there have also been communist governments and movements that were responsible for positive change in their countries (e.g. Thomas Sankara's government of Burkina Faso, and many of the leftist movements that fought against the US-backed dictatorships in Latin America).
Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?
[youtube]QDWU-Y4fWIw[/youtube]
Armhulen wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?
[youtube]QDWU-Y4fWIw[/youtube]
no i sob into this graph which i have turned into a mousepad, pillowcase, poster, car ordainment, and festive wallpaper

Image
Stickymayhem wrote:antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb
Armhulen wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb
This big demon hunter is better than you think, but since the meta has gotten a bit aggro-y you'd actually be a bit better off putting in some AOE. And of course, add soulciologist if you have the dust.
Image
Iatots wrote:There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.
terranaut wrote:Image
Stickymayhem wrote:
Iatots wrote:There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.
if there's no global movement how did they install sleeper agents in all the schools and colleges?!?!?!?!
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote: Image
what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now
Armhulen wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote: Image
what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now
yes
Armhulen wrote:i want to craft this, but i just feel like i'm gonna be dead by turn 7. you know if i unpack this i'm totally going to slot this in
Image
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote: yes
Is it overpowered like in WoW?

and you should play magic arena instead, nerd
terranaut wrote:he should play magic on cockatrice instead
terranaut wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
terranaut wrote:Image
t. national socialists
very wild accusation, scumbag

Image
Space Panda wrote:this is not wholesome at all
Stickymayhem wrote:
Space Panda wrote:this is not wholesome at all
i lied panda lets go do some terrorism
Armhulen wrote:lmfao this priest sure got terrorized alright

Image
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case
I believe he meant that instead of trying to create a solid argument, you're just making lazy generalizations that support your opinion

and that's not very helpful for a debate
teepeepee wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.
lol are you really this delusional or are you trying to cover for your antifa buddy?
not only is there video evidence of this faggot being the one who charged the victim, he's been doxed to hell and back and said "I am 100% antifa all the way", Michael Forest Reinoehl's the name
just like you do when you call everyone to the left of mao "nazis", normal people call anyone that supports burning shit down cause criminals can't comply with police officers "antifa"
hope that solves your confusion
iksyp wrote:
known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures
terrorism is furthering political beliefs with violence, people dont have to die but its still terrorism
Vekter wrote:This thread fucking sucks.

I agree with Sticky and even I think this thread sucks.
Stickymayhem wrote:We've isolated the infection, time to cauterize the wound
Denton wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.
[youtube]vXTnsnqvEgE[/youtube]
I'm more of a Red Letter Media fan myself
oranges wrote:sticky starts drama

janitors claim people responding are the ones at fault
XSI wrote:This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?
FantasticFwoosh wrote:People will arrest you if you win a democratically won local election for leaning/representing nationist-conservative in Europe trimming any attempt to try; there is no alternative to soft or hard communism because our present age is obsessed with American imported humanitarianism to socialism and Russian work ethical propoganda straight off the presses of marxism. Minority rights are part of the Paris Peace treaties of WW2, but by no means are anybody obliged to continue following them, its just become societal norm.

The Democratic Party has really lost its way, still as racist but not as based from a certain point of view. Remember what they took from you.
[youtube]5OKdbc0DYpM[/youtube]

Republicans won the civil war and still remain as propped to defend the Ideals of America as ever. Conservatives on average are physically attractive, or least passionate about their political choices, without having to tap into 80 year old demographic rulings on how one person is 2% less common in the common population gets 25% more of a say or the way you were born; reaching across the whole spectrum. The Democratic party will actually stop your freedom if you are not a racial quota hitter.
Armhulen wrote:
XSI wrote:This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?
i wrote about this today
https://discordapp.com/channels/3268221 ... 1947656236
oranges wrote:fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever
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Armhulen wrote:in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago

[youtube]_mem_nhhUEU[/youtube]
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago
all your replies are good buddy :ian:
Stickymayhem wrote:I kinda love that it's basically impossible to understand what fwoosh is arguing for or against.

I mean you can kinda assume but it's almost like a markov chain generator
IkeTG wrote:these pretzels are making me thirsty
Gigapuddi420 wrote:
oranges wrote:fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever
we have a lot of pretenders but nothing beats the original.
Stickymayhem wrote:Study of 900 politically motivated attacks from 1994 to may 2020
https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... y_v3_0.pdf

Killings since 1994:
Antifa: 0
Right-Wing: 329

If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.
GO FUCK YOURSELF
ok sorry
please don't do this
sorry
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism
Unread postby Stickymayhem » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:36 am #574691

Space Panda wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
wesoda25 wrote:
fuck you and your country
Space Panda wrote:
didn't have time to read it, but I think this is the link to the complete article

https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... ism_v6.pdf
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?
XDTM wrote:
I mean, only one of those two ideologies has genocide as the main goal
Armhulen wrote:
Not gonna lie, any authoritarian state would be pretty much the worst outcome for a country that has the two founding ideals of liberty and equality
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.

cacogen wrote:
There's always this false equivalency between the left and right nowadays for some reason.
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?


Communism is not a single homogeneous belief. Just like capitalism, there are many different ideas about how it should work amongst its supporters.

Communism, in its core, has nothing to do with genocide. While there have been governments that claimed to be communist and commited atrocities against their own people, there have also been communist governments and movements that were responsible for positive change in their countries (e.g. Thomas Sankara's government of Burkina Faso, and many of the leftist movements that fought against the US-backed dictatorships in Latin America).
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?

Armhulen wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?


no i sob into this graph which i have turned into a mousepad, pillowcase, poster, car ordainment, and festive wallpaper

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Stickymayhem wrote:
antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb
Armhulen wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb

This big demon hunter is better than you think, but since the meta has gotten a bit aggro-y you'd actually be a bit better off putting in some AOE. And of course, add soulciologist if you have the dust.
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Iatots wrote:
There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.
terranaut wrote:
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Stickymayhem wrote:
Iatots wrote:
There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.


if there's no global movement how did they install sleeper agents in all the schools and colleges?!?!?!?!
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
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what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now
Armhulen wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
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what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now

yes
Armhulen wrote:
i want to craft this, but i just feel like i'm gonna be dead by turn 7. you know if i unpack this i'm totally going to slot this in
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Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
yes

Is it overpowered like in WoW?

and you should play magic arena instead, nerd
terranaut wrote:
he should play magic on cockatrice instead
terranaut wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
terranaut wrote:
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t. national socialists


very wild accusation, scumbag

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Space Panda wrote:
this is not wholesome at all
Stickymayhem wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
this is not wholesome at all


i lied panda lets go do some terrorism
Armhulen wrote:
lmfao this priest sure got terrorized alright

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Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case


I believe he meant that instead of trying to create a solid argument, you're just making lazy generalizations that support your opinion

and that's not very helpful for a debate
teepeepee wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

lol are you really this delusional or are you trying to cover for your antifa buddy?
not only is there video evidence of this faggot being the one who charged the victim, he's been doxed to hell and back and said "I am 100% antifa all the way", Michael Forest Reinoehl's the name
just like you do when you call everyone to the left of mao "nazis", normal people call anyone that supports burning shit down cause criminals can't comply with police officers "antifa"
hope that solves your confusion
iksyp wrote:
known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

terrorism is furthering political beliefs with violence, people dont have to die but its still terrorism
Vekter wrote:
This thread fucking sucks.

I agree with Sticky and even I think this thread sucks.
Stickymayhem wrote:
We've isolated the infection, time to cauterize the wound
Denton wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.


I'm more of a Red Letter Media fan myself
oranges wrote:
sticky starts drama

janitors claim people responding are the ones at fault
XSI wrote:
This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?
FantasticFwoosh wrote:
People will arrest you if you win a democratically won local election for leaning/representing nationist-conservative in Europe trimming any attempt to try; there is no alternative to soft or hard communism because our present age is obsessed with American imported humanitarianism to socialism and Russian work ethical propoganda straight off the presses of marxism. Minority rights are part of the Paris Peace treaties of WW2, but by no means are anybody obliged to continue following them, its just become societal norm.

The Democratic Party has really lost its way, still as racist but not as based from a certain point of view. Remember what they took from you.


Republicans won the civil war and still remain as propped to defend the Ideals of America as ever. Conservatives on average are physically attractive, or least passionate about their political choices, without having to tap into 80 year old demographic rulings on how one person is 2% less common in the common population gets 25% more of a say or the way you were born; reaching across the whole spectrum. The Democratic party will actually stop your freedom if you are not a racial quota hitter.
Armhulen wrote:
XSI wrote:
This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?

i wrote about this today
https://discordapp.com/channels/3268221 ... 1947656236
oranges wrote:
fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever
Swept wrote:
43r89y7u32872387g328ou7yyrgd


ewfiuwegfiu7weghfoiweugfo89gf239p8383833333


ew89hf98234hfr239832h98322222222222222222222


iuwqbduwqqw------------------------------

fdjwew
Armhulen wrote:
in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago


Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago


all your replies are good buddy :ian:
Stickymayhem wrote:
I kinda love that it's basically impossible to understand what fwoosh is arguing for or against.

I mean you can kinda assume but it's almost like a markov chain generator
IkeTG wrote:
these pretzels are making me thirsty
Gigapuddi420 wrote:
oranges wrote:
fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever

we have a lot of pretenders but nothing beats the original.
Stickymayhem wrote:
Study of 900 politically motivated attacks from 1994 to may 2020
https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... y_v3_0.pdf

Killings since 1994:
Antifa: 0
Right-Wing: 329

If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

GO FUCK YOURSELF


ok sorry


please don't do this


sorry
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism
Unread postby trollbreeder » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:40 am #574695

STOP WITH THE QUOTECEPTION YOU ARE RECKONING THE WRATH OF THE FORUM JANNIES
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism
Unread postby PKPenguin321 » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:56 am #574696

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism
Unread postby Stickymayhem » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:36 am #574691

Space Panda wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
wesoda25 wrote:
fuck you and your country
Space Panda wrote:
didn't have time to read it, but I think this is the link to the complete article

https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... ism_v6.pdf
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?
XDTM wrote:
I mean, only one of those two ideologies has genocide as the main goal
Armhulen wrote:
Not gonna lie, any authoritarian state would be pretty much the worst outcome for a country that has the two founding ideals of liberty and equality
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.

cacogen wrote:
There's always this false equivalency between the left and right nowadays for some reason.
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?


Communism is not a single homogeneous belief. Just like capitalism, there are many different ideas about how it should work amongst its supporters.

Communism, in its core, has nothing to do with genocide. While there have been governments that claimed to be communist and commited atrocities against their own people, there have also been communist governments and movements that were responsible for positive change in their countries (e.g. Thomas Sankara's government of Burkina Faso, and many of the leftist movements that fought against the US-backed dictatorships in Latin America).
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?

Armhulen wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?


no i sob into this graph which i have turned into a mousepad, pillowcase, poster, car ordainment, and festive wallpaper

Image
Stickymayhem wrote:
antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb
Armhulen wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb

This big demon hunter is better than you think, but since the meta has gotten a bit aggro-y you'd actually be a bit better off putting in some AOE. And of course, add soulciologist if you have the dust.
Image
Iatots wrote:
There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.
terranaut wrote:
Image
Stickymayhem wrote:
Iatots wrote:
There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.


if there's no global movement how did they install sleeper agents in all the schools and colleges?!?!?!?!
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
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what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now
Armhulen wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
Image


what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now

yes
Armhulen wrote:
i want to craft this, but i just feel like i'm gonna be dead by turn 7. you know if i unpack this i'm totally going to slot this in
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Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
yes

Is it overpowered like in WoW?

and you should play magic arena instead, nerd
terranaut wrote:
he should play magic on cockatrice instead
terranaut wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
terranaut wrote:
Image


t. national socialists


very wild accusation, scumbag

Image
Space Panda wrote:
this is not wholesome at all
Stickymayhem wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
this is not wholesome at all


i lied panda lets go do some terrorism
Armhulen wrote:
lmfao this priest sure got terrorized alright

Image
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case


I believe he meant that instead of trying to create a solid argument, you're just making lazy generalizations that support your opinion

and that's not very helpful for a debate
teepeepee wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

lol are you really this delusional or are you trying to cover for your antifa buddy?
not only is there video evidence of this faggot being the one who charged the victim, he's been doxed to hell and back and said "I am 100% antifa all the way", Michael Forest Reinoehl's the name
just like you do when you call everyone to the left of mao "nazis", normal people call anyone that supports burning shit down cause criminals can't comply with police officers "antifa"
hope that solves your confusion
iksyp wrote:
known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

terrorism is furthering political beliefs with violence, people dont have to die but its still terrorism
Vekter wrote:
This thread fucking sucks.

I agree with Sticky and even I think this thread sucks.
Stickymayhem wrote:
We've isolated the infection, time to cauterize the wound
Denton wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.


I'm more of a Red Letter Media fan myself
oranges wrote:
sticky starts drama

janitors claim people responding are the ones at fault
XSI wrote:
This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?
FantasticFwoosh wrote:
People will arrest you if you win a democratically won local election for leaning/representing nationist-conservative in Europe trimming any attempt to try; there is no alternative to soft or hard communism because our present age is obsessed with American imported humanitarianism to socialism and Russian work ethical propoganda straight off the presses of marxism. Minority rights are part of the Paris Peace treaties of WW2, but by no means are anybody obliged to continue following them, its just become societal norm.

The Democratic Party has really lost its way, still as racist but not as based from a certain point of view. Remember what they took from you.


Republicans won the civil war and still remain as propped to defend the Ideals of America as ever. Conservatives on average are physically attractive, or least passionate about their political choices, without having to tap into 80 year old demographic rulings on how one person is 2% less common in the common population gets 25% more of a say or the way you were born; reaching across the whole spectrum. The Democratic party will actually stop your freedom if you are not a racial quota hitter.
Armhulen wrote:
XSI wrote:
This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?

i wrote about this today
https://discordapp.com/channels/3268221 ... 1947656236
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Armhulen wrote:
in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago


Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago


all your replies are good buddy :ian:
Stickymayhem wrote:
I kinda love that it's basically impossible to understand what fwoosh is arguing for or against.

I mean you can kinda assume but it's almost like a markov chain generator
IkeTG wrote:
these pretzels are making me thirsty
Gigapuddi420 wrote:
oranges wrote:
fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever

we have a lot of pretenders but nothing beats the original.
Stickymayhem wrote:
Study of 900 politically motivated attacks from 1994 to may 2020
https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... y_v3_0.pdf

Killings since 1994:
Antifa: 0
Right-Wing: 329

If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

GO FUCK YOURSELF


ok sorry


please don't do this


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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism
Unread postby Stickymayhem » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:36 am #574691

Space Panda wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
wesoda25 wrote:
fuck you and your country
Space Panda wrote:
didn't have time to read it, but I think this is the link to the complete article

https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... ism_v6.pdf
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?
XDTM wrote:
I mean, only one of those two ideologies has genocide as the main goal
Armhulen wrote:
Not gonna lie, any authoritarian state would be pretty much the worst outcome for a country that has the two founding ideals of liberty and equality
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.

cacogen wrote:
There's always this false equivalency between the left and right nowadays for some reason.
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?


Communism is not a single homogeneous belief. Just like capitalism, there are many different ideas about how it should work amongst its supporters.

Communism, in its core, has nothing to do with genocide. While there have been governments that claimed to be communist and commited atrocities against their own people, there have also been communist governments and movements that were responsible for positive change in their countries (e.g. Thomas Sankara's government of Burkina Faso, and many of the leftist movements that fought against the US-backed dictatorships in Latin America).
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?

Armhulen wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?


no i sob into this graph which i have turned into a mousepad, pillowcase, poster, car ordainment, and festive wallpaper

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Stickymayhem wrote:
antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb
Armhulen wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb

This big demon hunter is better than you think, but since the meta has gotten a bit aggro-y you'd actually be a bit better off putting in some AOE. And of course, add soulciologist if you have the dust.
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Iatots wrote:
There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.
terranaut wrote:
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Stickymayhem wrote:
Iatots wrote:
There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.


if there's no global movement how did they install sleeper agents in all the schools and colleges?!?!?!?!
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
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what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now
Armhulen wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
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what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now

yes
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Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
yes

Is it overpowered like in WoW?

and you should play magic arena instead, nerd
terranaut wrote:
he should play magic on cockatrice instead
terranaut wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
terranaut wrote:
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t. national socialists


very wild accusation, scumbag

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Space Panda wrote:
this is not wholesome at all
Stickymayhem wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
this is not wholesome at all


i lied panda lets go do some terrorism
Armhulen wrote:
lmfao this priest sure got terrorized alright

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Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case


I believe he meant that instead of trying to create a solid argument, you're just making lazy generalizations that support your opinion

and that's not very helpful for a debate
teepeepee wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

lol are you really this delusional or are you trying to cover for your antifa buddy?
not only is there video evidence of this faggot being the one who charged the victim, he's been doxed to hell and back and said "I am 100% antifa all the way", Michael Forest Reinoehl's the name
just like you do when you call everyone to the left of mao "nazis", normal people call anyone that supports burning shit down cause criminals can't comply with police officers "antifa"
hope that solves your confusion
iksyp wrote:
known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

terrorism is furthering political beliefs with violence, people dont have to die but its still terrorism
Vekter wrote:
This thread fucking sucks.

I agree with Sticky and even I think this thread sucks.
Stickymayhem wrote:
We've isolated the infection, time to cauterize the wound
Denton wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.


I'm more of a Red Letter Media fan myself
oranges wrote:
sticky starts drama

janitors claim people responding are the ones at fault
XSI wrote:
This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?
FantasticFwoosh wrote:
People will arrest you if you win a democratically won local election for leaning/representing nationist-conservative in Europe trimming any attempt to try; there is no alternative to soft or hard communism because our present age is obsessed with American imported humanitarianism to socialism and Russian work ethical propoganda straight off the presses of marxism. Minority rights are part of the Paris Peace treaties of WW2, but by no means are anybody obliged to continue following them, its just become societal norm.

The Democratic Party has really lost its way, still as racist but not as based from a certain point of view. Remember what they took from you.


Republicans won the civil war and still remain as propped to defend the Ideals of America as ever. Conservatives on average are physically attractive, or least passionate about their political choices, without having to tap into 80 year old demographic rulings on how one person is 2% less common in the common population gets 25% more of a say or the way you were born; reaching across the whole spectrum. The Democratic party will actually stop your freedom if you are not a racial quota hitter.
Armhulen wrote:
XSI wrote:
This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?

i wrote about this today
https://discordapp.com/channels/3268221 ... 1947656236
oranges wrote:
fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever
Swept wrote:
43r89y7u32872387g328ou7yyrgd


ewfiuwegfiu7weghfoiweugfo89gf239p8383833333


ew89hf98234hfr239832h98322222222222222222222


iuwqbduwqqw------------------------------

fdjwew
Armhulen wrote:
in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago


Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago


all your replies are good buddy :ian:
Stickymayhem wrote:
I kinda love that it's basically impossible to understand what fwoosh is arguing for or against.

I mean you can kinda assume but it's almost like a markov chain generator
IkeTG wrote:
these pretzels are making me thirsty
Gigapuddi420 wrote:
oranges wrote:
fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever

we have a lot of pretenders but nothing beats the original.
Stickymayhem wrote:
Study of 900 politically motivated attacks from 1994 to may 2020
https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... y_v3_0.pdf

Killings since 1994:
Antifa: 0
Right-Wing: 329

If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

GO FUCK YOURSELF


ok sorry


please don't do this


sorry
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism
Unread postby trollbreeder » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:40 am #574695

STOP WITH THE QUOTECEPTION YOU ARE RECKONING THE WRATH OF THE FORUM JANNIES
I'm a dumb feature coder, also a bad (but not terrible) coderspriter and a semi-good mapper and an enforcer of standards.
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I did specify this was supposed to be a wholesome debate what happened?!?!?
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wesoda25 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
wesoda25 wrote:fuck you and your country
Space Panda wrote:didn't have time to read it, but I think this is the link to the complete article

https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... ism_v6.pdf
Istoprocent1 wrote:Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?
XDTM wrote:I mean, only one of those two ideologies has genocide as the main goal
Armhulen wrote:Not gonna lie, any authoritarian state would be pretty much the worst outcome for a country that has the two founding ideals of liberty and equality
Ayy Lemoh wrote:This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.
[youtube]vXTnsnqvEgE[/youtube]
cacogen wrote:There's always this false equivalency between the left and right nowadays for some reason.
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?
Communism is not a single homogeneous belief. Just like capitalism, there are many different ideas about how it should work amongst its supporters.

Communism, in its core, has nothing to do with genocide. While there have been governments that claimed to be communist and commited atrocities against their own people, there have also been communist governments and movements that were responsible for positive change in their countries (e.g. Thomas Sankara's government of Burkina Faso, and many of the leftist movements that fought against the US-backed dictatorships in Latin America).
Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?
[youtube]QDWU-Y4fWIw[/youtube]
Armhulen wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?
[youtube]QDWU-Y4fWIw[/youtube]
no i sob into this graph which i have turned into a mousepad, pillowcase, poster, car ordainment, and festive wallpaper

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Stickymayhem wrote:antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb
Armhulen wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb
This big demon hunter is better than you think, but since the meta has gotten a bit aggro-y you'd actually be a bit better off putting in some AOE. And of course, add soulciologist if you have the dust.
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Iatots wrote:There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.
terranaut wrote:Image
Stickymayhem wrote:
Iatots wrote:There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.
if there's no global movement how did they install sleeper agents in all the schools and colleges?!?!?!?!
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote: Image
what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now
Armhulen wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote: Image
what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now
yes
Armhulen wrote:i want to craft this, but i just feel like i'm gonna be dead by turn 7. you know if i unpack this i'm totally going to slot this in
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Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote: yes
Is it overpowered like in WoW?

and you should play magic arena instead, nerd
terranaut wrote:he should play magic on cockatrice instead
terranaut wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
terranaut wrote:Image
t. national socialists
very wild accusation, scumbag

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Space Panda wrote:this is not wholesome at all
Stickymayhem wrote:
Space Panda wrote:this is not wholesome at all
i lied panda lets go do some terrorism
Armhulen wrote:lmfao this priest sure got terrorized alright

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Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case
I believe he meant that instead of trying to create a solid argument, you're just making lazy generalizations that support your opinion

and that's not very helpful for a debate
teepeepee wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.
lol are you really this delusional or are you trying to cover for your antifa buddy?
not only is there video evidence of this faggot being the one who charged the victim, he's been doxed to hell and back and said "I am 100% antifa all the way", Michael Forest Reinoehl's the name
just like you do when you call everyone to the left of mao "nazis", normal people call anyone that supports burning shit down cause criminals can't comply with police officers "antifa"
hope that solves your confusion
iksyp wrote:
known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures
terrorism is furthering political beliefs with violence, people dont have to die but its still terrorism
Vekter wrote:This thread fucking sucks.

I agree with Sticky and even I think this thread sucks.
Stickymayhem wrote:We've isolated the infection, time to cauterize the wound
Denton wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.
[youtube]vXTnsnqvEgE[/youtube]
I'm more of a Red Letter Media fan myself
oranges wrote:sticky starts drama

janitors claim people responding are the ones at fault
XSI wrote:This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?
FantasticFwoosh wrote:People will arrest you if you win a democratically won local election for leaning/representing nationist-conservative in Europe trimming any attempt to try; there is no alternative to soft or hard communism because our present age is obsessed with American imported humanitarianism to socialism and Russian work ethical propoganda straight off the presses of marxism. Minority rights are part of the Paris Peace treaties of WW2, but by no means are anybody obliged to continue following them, its just become societal norm.

The Democratic Party has really lost its way, still as racist but not as based from a certain point of view. Remember what they took from you.
[youtube]5OKdbc0DYpM[/youtube]

Republicans won the civil war and still remain as propped to defend the Ideals of America as ever. Conservatives on average are physically attractive, or least passionate about their political choices, without having to tap into 80 year old demographic rulings on how one person is 2% less common in the common population gets 25% more of a say or the way you were born; reaching across the whole spectrum. The Democratic party will actually stop your freedom if you are not a racial quota hitter.
Armhulen wrote:
XSI wrote:This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?
i wrote about this today
https://discordapp.com/channels/3268221 ... 1947656236
oranges wrote:fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever
Swept wrote:43r89y7u32872387g328ou7yyrgd


ewfiuwegfiu7weghfoiweugfo89gf239p8383833333


ew89hf98234hfr239832h98322222222222222222222


iuwqbduwqqw------------------------------

fdjwew
Armhulen wrote:in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago

[youtube]_mem_nhhUEU[/youtube]
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago
all your replies are good buddy :ian:
Stickymayhem wrote:I kinda love that it's basically impossible to understand what fwoosh is arguing for or against.

I mean you can kinda assume but it's almost like a markov chain generator
IkeTG wrote:these pretzels are making me thirsty
Gigapuddi420 wrote:
oranges wrote:fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever
we have a lot of pretenders but nothing beats the original.
Stickymayhem wrote:Study of 900 politically motivated attacks from 1994 to may 2020
https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... y_v3_0.pdf

Killings since 1994:
Antifa: 0
Right-Wing: 329

If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.
GO FUCK YOURSELF
ok sorry
please don't do this
sorry
Stickymayhem wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
wesoda25 wrote:fuck you and your country
Space Panda wrote:didn't have time to read it, but I think this is the link to the complete article

https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... ism_v6.pdf
Istoprocent1 wrote:Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?
XDTM wrote:I mean, only one of those two ideologies has genocide as the main goal
Armhulen wrote:
Not gonna lie, any authoritarian state would be pretty much the worst outcome for a country that has the two founding ideals of liberty and equality
Ayy Lemoh wrote:This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.
[youtube]vXTnsnqvEgE[/youtube]
cacogen wrote:There's always this false equivalency between the left and right nowadays for some reason.
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?
Communism is not a single homogeneous belief. Just like capitalism, there are many different ideas about how it should work amongst its supporters.

Communism, in its core, has nothing to do with genocide. While there have been governments that claimed to be communist and commited atrocities against their own people, there have also been communist governments and movements that were responsible for positive change in their countries (e.g. Thomas Sankara's government of Burkina Faso, and many of the leftist movements that fought against the US-backed dictatorships in Latin America).
Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?
[youtube]QDWU-Y4fWIw[/youtube]
Armhulen wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?
[youtube]QDWU-Y4fWIw[/youtube]
no i sob into this graph which i have turned into a mousepad, pillowcase, poster, car ordainment, and festive wallpaper

Image
Stickymayhem wrote:antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb
Armhulen wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb
This big demon hunter is better than you think, but since the meta has gotten a bit aggro-y you'd actually be a bit better off putting in some AOE. And of course, add soulciologist if you have the dust.
Image
Iatots wrote:There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.
terranaut wrote:Image
Stickymayhem wrote:
Iatots wrote:There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.
if there's no global movement how did they install sleeper agents in all the schools and colleges?!?!?!?!
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote: Image
what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now
Armhulen wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote: Image
what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now
yes
Armhulen wrote:i want to craft this, but i just feel like i'm gonna be dead by turn 7. you know if i unpack this i'm totally going to slot this in
Image
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote: yes
Is it overpowered like in WoW?

and you should play magic arena instead, nerd
terranaut wrote:he should play magic on cockatrice instead
terranaut wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
terranaut wrote:Image
t. national socialists
very wild accusation, scumbag

Image
Space Panda wrote:this is not wholesome at all
Stickymayhem wrote:
Space Panda wrote:this is not wholesome at all
i lied panda lets go do some terrorism
Armhulen wrote:lmfao this priest sure got terrorized alright

Image
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case
I believe he meant that instead of trying to create a solid argument, you're just making lazy generalizations that support your opinion

and that's not very helpful for a debate
teepeepee wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.
lol are you really this delusional or are you trying to cover for your antifa buddy?
not only is there video evidence of this faggot being the one who charged the victim, he's been doxed to hell and back and said "I am 100% antifa all the way", Michael Forest Reinoehl's the name
just like you do when you call everyone to the left of mao "nazis", normal people call anyone that supports burning shit down cause criminals can't comply with police officers "antifa"
hope that solves your confusion
iksyp wrote:
known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures
terrorism is furthering political beliefs with violence, people dont have to die but its still terrorism
Vekter wrote:This thread fucking sucks.

I agree with Sticky and even I think this thread sucks.
Stickymayhem wrote:We've isolated the infection, time to cauterize the wound
Denton wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.
[youtube]vXTnsnqvEgE[/youtube]
I'm more of a Red Letter Media fan myself
oranges wrote:sticky starts drama

janitors claim people responding are the ones at fault
XSI wrote:This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?
FantasticFwoosh wrote:People will arrest you if you win a democratically won local election for leaning/representing nationist-conservative in Europe trimming any attempt to try; there is no alternative to soft or hard communism because our present age is obsessed with American imported humanitarianism to socialism and Russian work ethical propoganda straight off the presses of marxism. Minority rights are part of the Paris Peace treaties of WW2, but by no means are anybody obliged to continue following them, its just become societal norm.

The Democratic Party has really lost its way, still as racist but not as based from a certain point of view. Remember what they took from you.
[youtube]5OKdbc0DYpM[/youtube]

Republicans won the civil war and still remain as propped to defend the Ideals of America as ever. Conservatives on average are physically attractive, or least passionate about their political choices, without having to tap into 80 year old demographic rulings on how one person is 2% less common in the common population gets 25% more of a say or the way you were born; reaching across the whole spectrum. The Democratic party will actually stop your freedom if you are not a racial quota hitter.
Armhulen wrote:
XSI wrote:This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?
i wrote about this today
https://discordapp.com/channels/3268221 ... 1947656236
oranges wrote:fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever
Swept wrote:43r89y7u32872387g328ou7yyrgd


ewfiuwegfiu7weghfoiweugfo89gf239p8383833333


ew89hf98234hfr239832h98322222222222222222222


iuwqbduwqqw------------------------------

fdjwew
Armhulen wrote:in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago

[youtube]_mem_nhhUEU[/youtube]
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago
all your replies are good buddy :ian:
Stickymayhem wrote:I kinda love that it's basically impossible to understand what fwoosh is arguing for or against.

I mean you can kinda assume but it's almost like a markov chain generator
IkeTG wrote:these pretzels are making me thirsty
Gigapuddi420 wrote:
oranges wrote:fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever
we have a lot of pretenders but nothing beats the original.
Stickymayhem wrote:Study of 900 politically motivated attacks from 1994 to may 2020
https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... y_v3_0.pdf

Killings since 1994:
Antifa: 0
Right-Wing: 329

If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.
GO FUCK YOURSELF
ok sorry
please don't do this
sorry
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism
Unread postby Stickymayhem » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:36 am #574691

Space Panda wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
wesoda25 wrote:
fuck you and your country
Space Panda wrote:
didn't have time to read it, but I think this is the link to the complete article

https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... ism_v6.pdf
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?
XDTM wrote:
I mean, only one of those two ideologies has genocide as the main goal
Armhulen wrote:
Not gonna lie, any authoritarian state would be pretty much the worst outcome for a country that has the two founding ideals of liberty and equality
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.

cacogen wrote:
There's always this false equivalency between the left and right nowadays for some reason.
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?


Communism is not a single homogeneous belief. Just like capitalism, there are many different ideas about how it should work amongst its supporters.

Communism, in its core, has nothing to do with genocide. While there have been governments that claimed to be communist and commited atrocities against their own people, there have also been communist governments and movements that were responsible for positive change in their countries (e.g. Thomas Sankara's government of Burkina Faso, and many of the leftist movements that fought against the US-backed dictatorships in Latin America).
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?

Armhulen wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?


no i sob into this graph which i have turned into a mousepad, pillowcase, poster, car ordainment, and festive wallpaper

Image
Stickymayhem wrote:
antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb
Armhulen wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb

This big demon hunter is better than you think, but since the meta has gotten a bit aggro-y you'd actually be a bit better off putting in some AOE. And of course, add soulciologist if you have the dust.
Image
Iatots wrote:
There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.
terranaut wrote:
Image
Stickymayhem wrote:
Iatots wrote:
There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.


if there's no global movement how did they install sleeper agents in all the schools and colleges?!?!?!?!
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
Image


what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now
Armhulen wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
Image


what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now

yes
Armhulen wrote:
i want to craft this, but i just feel like i'm gonna be dead by turn 7. you know if i unpack this i'm totally going to slot this in
Image
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
yes

Is it overpowered like in WoW?

and you should play magic arena instead, nerd
terranaut wrote:
he should play magic on cockatrice instead
terranaut wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
terranaut wrote:
Image


t. national socialists


very wild accusation, scumbag

Image
Space Panda wrote:
this is not wholesome at all
Stickymayhem wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
this is not wholesome at all


i lied panda lets go do some terrorism
Armhulen wrote:
lmfao this priest sure got terrorized alright

Image
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case


I believe he meant that instead of trying to create a solid argument, you're just making lazy generalizations that support your opinion

and that's not very helpful for a debate
teepeepee wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

lol are you really this delusional or are you trying to cover for your antifa buddy?
not only is there video evidence of this faggot being the one who charged the victim, he's been doxed to hell and back and said "I am 100% antifa all the way", Michael Forest Reinoehl's the name
just like you do when you call everyone to the left of mao "nazis", normal people call anyone that supports burning shit down cause criminals can't comply with police officers "antifa"
hope that solves your confusion
iksyp wrote:
known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

terrorism is furthering political beliefs with violence, people dont have to die but its still terrorism
Vekter wrote:
This thread fucking sucks.

I agree with Sticky and even I think this thread sucks.
Stickymayhem wrote:
We've isolated the infection, time to cauterize the wound
Denton wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.


I'm more of a Red Letter Media fan myself
oranges wrote:
sticky starts drama

janitors claim people responding are the ones at fault
XSI wrote:
This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?
FantasticFwoosh wrote:
People will arrest you if you win a democratically won local election for leaning/representing nationist-conservative in Europe trimming any attempt to try; there is no alternative to soft or hard communism because our present age is obsessed with American imported humanitarianism to socialism and Russian work ethical propoganda straight off the presses of marxism. Minority rights are part of the Paris Peace treaties of WW2, but by no means are anybody obliged to continue following them, its just become societal norm.

The Democratic Party has really lost its way, still as racist but not as based from a certain point of view. Remember what they took from you.


Republicans won the civil war and still remain as propped to defend the Ideals of America as ever. Conservatives on average are physically attractive, or least passionate about their political choices, without having to tap into 80 year old demographic rulings on how one person is 2% less common in the common population gets 25% more of a say or the way you were born; reaching across the whole spectrum. The Democratic party will actually stop your freedom if you are not a racial quota hitter.
Armhulen wrote:
XSI wrote:
This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?

i wrote about this today
https://discordapp.com/channels/3268221 ... 1947656236
oranges wrote:
fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever
Swept wrote:
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Armhulen wrote:
in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago


Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago


all your replies are good buddy :ian:
Stickymayhem wrote:
I kinda love that it's basically impossible to understand what fwoosh is arguing for or against.

I mean you can kinda assume but it's almost like a markov chain generator
IkeTG wrote:
these pretzels are making me thirsty
Gigapuddi420 wrote:
oranges wrote:
fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever

we have a lot of pretenders but nothing beats the original.
Stickymayhem wrote:
Study of 900 politically motivated attacks from 1994 to may 2020
https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... y_v3_0.pdf

Killings since 1994:
Antifa: 0
Right-Wing: 329

If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

GO FUCK YOURSELF


ok sorry


please don't do this


sorry
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism
Unread postby Stickymayhem » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:36 am #574691

Space Panda wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
wesoda25 wrote:
fuck you and your country
Space Panda wrote:
didn't have time to read it, but I think this is the link to the complete article

https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... ism_v6.pdf
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?
XDTM wrote:
I mean, only one of those two ideologies has genocide as the main goal
Armhulen wrote:
Not gonna lie, any authoritarian state would be pretty much the worst outcome for a country that has the two founding ideals of liberty and equality
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.

cacogen wrote:
There's always this false equivalency between the left and right nowadays for some reason.
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?


Communism is not a single homogeneous belief. Just like capitalism, there are many different ideas about how it should work amongst its supporters.

Communism, in its core, has nothing to do with genocide. While there have been governments that claimed to be communist and commited atrocities against their own people, there have also been communist governments and movements that were responsible for positive change in their countries (e.g. Thomas Sankara's government of Burkina Faso, and many of the leftist movements that fought against the US-backed dictatorships in Latin America).
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?

Armhulen wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?


no i sob into this graph which i have turned into a mousepad, pillowcase, poster, car ordainment, and festive wallpaper

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Stickymayhem wrote:
antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb
Armhulen wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb

This big demon hunter is better than you think, but since the meta has gotten a bit aggro-y you'd actually be a bit better off putting in some AOE. And of course, add soulciologist if you have the dust.
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Iatots wrote:
There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.
terranaut wrote:
Image
Stickymayhem wrote:
Iatots wrote:
There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.


if there's no global movement how did they install sleeper agents in all the schools and colleges?!?!?!?!
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
Image


what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now
Armhulen wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
Image


what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now

yes
Armhulen wrote:
i want to craft this, but i just feel like i'm gonna be dead by turn 7. you know if i unpack this i'm totally going to slot this in
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Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
yes

Is it overpowered like in WoW?

and you should play magic arena instead, nerd
terranaut wrote:
he should play magic on cockatrice instead
terranaut wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
terranaut wrote:
Image


t. national socialists


very wild accusation, scumbag

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Space Panda wrote:
this is not wholesome at all
Stickymayhem wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
this is not wholesome at all


i lied panda lets go do some terrorism
Armhulen wrote:
lmfao this priest sure got terrorized alright

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Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case


I believe he meant that instead of trying to create a solid argument, you're just making lazy generalizations that support your opinion

and that's not very helpful for a debate
teepeepee wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

lol are you really this delusional or are you trying to cover for your antifa buddy?
not only is there video evidence of this faggot being the one who charged the victim, he's been doxed to hell and back and said "I am 100% antifa all the way", Michael Forest Reinoehl's the name
just like you do when you call everyone to the left of mao "nazis", normal people call anyone that supports burning shit down cause criminals can't comply with police officers "antifa"
hope that solves your confusion
iksyp wrote:
known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

terrorism is furthering political beliefs with violence, people dont have to die but its still terrorism
Vekter wrote:
This thread fucking sucks.

I agree with Sticky and even I think this thread sucks.
Stickymayhem wrote:
We've isolated the infection, time to cauterize the wound
Denton wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.


I'm more of a Red Letter Media fan myself
oranges wrote:
sticky starts drama

janitors claim people responding are the ones at fault
XSI wrote:
This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?
FantasticFwoosh wrote:
People will arrest you if you win a democratically won local election for leaning/representing nationist-conservative in Europe trimming any attempt to try; there is no alternative to soft or hard communism because our present age is obsessed with American imported humanitarianism to socialism and Russian work ethical propoganda straight off the presses of marxism. Minority rights are part of the Paris Peace treaties of WW2, but by no means are anybody obliged to continue following them, its just become societal norm.

The Democratic Party has really lost its way, still as racist but not as based from a certain point of view. Remember what they took from you.


Republicans won the civil war and still remain as propped to defend the Ideals of America as ever. Conservatives on average are physically attractive, or least passionate about their political choices, without having to tap into 80 year old demographic rulings on how one person is 2% less common in the common population gets 25% more of a say or the way you were born; reaching across the whole spectrum. The Democratic party will actually stop your freedom if you are not a racial quota hitter.
Armhulen wrote:
XSI wrote:
This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?

i wrote about this today
https://discordapp.com/channels/3268221 ... 1947656236
oranges wrote:
fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever
Swept wrote:
43r89y7u32872387g328ou7yyrgd


ewfiuwegfiu7weghfoiweugfo89gf239p8383833333


ew89hf98234hfr239832h98322222222222222222222


iuwqbduwqqw------------------------------

fdjwew
Armhulen wrote:
in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago


Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago


all your replies are good buddy :ian:
Stickymayhem wrote:
I kinda love that it's basically impossible to understand what fwoosh is arguing for or against.

I mean you can kinda assume but it's almost like a markov chain generator
IkeTG wrote:
these pretzels are making me thirsty
Gigapuddi420 wrote:
oranges wrote:
fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever

we have a lot of pretenders but nothing beats the original.
Stickymayhem wrote:
Study of 900 politically motivated attacks from 1994 to may 2020
https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... y_v3_0.pdf

Killings since 1994:
Antifa: 0
Right-Wing: 329

If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

GO FUCK YOURSELF


ok sorry


please don't do this


sorry
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism
Unread postby trollbreeder » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:40 am #574695

STOP WITH THE QUOTECEPTION YOU ARE RECKONING THE WRATH OF THE FORUM JANNIES
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism
Unread postby Stickymayhem » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:36 am #574691

Space Panda wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
wesoda25 wrote:
fuck you and your country
Space Panda wrote:
didn't have time to read it, but I think this is the link to the complete article

https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... ism_v6.pdf
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?
XDTM wrote:
I mean, only one of those two ideologies has genocide as the main goal
Armhulen wrote:
Not gonna lie, any authoritarian state would be pretty much the worst outcome for a country that has the two founding ideals of liberty and equality
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.

cacogen wrote:
There's always this false equivalency between the left and right nowadays for some reason.
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?


Communism is not a single homogeneous belief. Just like capitalism, there are many different ideas about how it should work amongst its supporters.

Communism, in its core, has nothing to do with genocide. While there have been governments that claimed to be communist and commited atrocities against their own people, there have also been communist governments and movements that were responsible for positive change in their countries (e.g. Thomas Sankara's government of Burkina Faso, and many of the leftist movements that fought against the US-backed dictatorships in Latin America).
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?

Armhulen wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?


no i sob into this graph which i have turned into a mousepad, pillowcase, poster, car ordainment, and festive wallpaper

Image
Stickymayhem wrote:
antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb
Armhulen wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb

This big demon hunter is better than you think, but since the meta has gotten a bit aggro-y you'd actually be a bit better off putting in some AOE. And of course, add soulciologist if you have the dust.
Image
Iatots wrote:
There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.
terranaut wrote:
Image
Stickymayhem wrote:
Iatots wrote:
There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.


if there's no global movement how did they install sleeper agents in all the schools and colleges?!?!?!?!
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
Image


what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now
Armhulen wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
Image


what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now

yes
Armhulen wrote:
i want to craft this, but i just feel like i'm gonna be dead by turn 7. you know if i unpack this i'm totally going to slot this in
Image
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
yes

Is it overpowered like in WoW?

and you should play magic arena instead, nerd
terranaut wrote:
he should play magic on cockatrice instead
terranaut wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
terranaut wrote:
Image


t. national socialists


very wild accusation, scumbag

Image
Space Panda wrote:
this is not wholesome at all
Stickymayhem wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
this is not wholesome at all


i lied panda lets go do some terrorism
Armhulen wrote:
lmfao this priest sure got terrorized alright

Image
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case


I believe he meant that instead of trying to create a solid argument, you're just making lazy generalizations that support your opinion

and that's not very helpful for a debate
teepeepee wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

lol are you really this delusional or are you trying to cover for your antifa buddy?
not only is there video evidence of this faggot being the one who charged the victim, he's been doxed to hell and back and said "I am 100% antifa all the way", Michael Forest Reinoehl's the name
just like you do when you call everyone to the left of mao "nazis", normal people call anyone that supports burning shit down cause criminals can't comply with police officers "antifa"
hope that solves your confusion
iksyp wrote:
known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

terrorism is furthering political beliefs with violence, people dont have to die but its still terrorism
Vekter wrote:
This thread fucking sucks.

I agree with Sticky and even I think this thread sucks.
Stickymayhem wrote:
We've isolated the infection, time to cauterize the wound
Denton wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.


I'm more of a Red Letter Media fan myself
oranges wrote:
sticky starts drama

janitors claim people responding are the ones at fault
XSI wrote:
This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?
FantasticFwoosh wrote:
People will arrest you if you win a democratically won local election for leaning/representing nationist-conservative in Europe trimming any attempt to try; there is no alternative to soft or hard communism because our present age is obsessed with American imported humanitarianism to socialism and Russian work ethical propoganda straight off the presses of marxism. Minority rights are part of the Paris Peace treaties of WW2, but by no means are anybody obliged to continue following them, its just become societal norm.

The Democratic Party has really lost its way, still as racist but not as based from a certain point of view. Remember what they took from you.


Republicans won the civil war and still remain as propped to defend the Ideals of America as ever. Conservatives on average are physically attractive, or least passionate about their political choices, without having to tap into 80 year old demographic rulings on how one person is 2% less common in the common population gets 25% more of a say or the way you were born; reaching across the whole spectrum. The Democratic party will actually stop your freedom if you are not a racial quota hitter.
Armhulen wrote:
XSI wrote:
This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?

i wrote about this today
https://discordapp.com/channels/3268221 ... 1947656236
oranges wrote:
fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever
Swept wrote:
43r89y7u32872387g328ou7yyrgd


ewfiuwegfiu7weghfoiweugfo89gf239p8383833333


ew89hf98234hfr239832h98322222222222222222222


iuwqbduwqqw------------------------------

fdjwew
Armhulen wrote:
in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago


Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago


all your replies are good buddy :ian:
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I mean you can kinda assume but it's almost like a markov chain generator
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Study of 900 politically motivated attacks from 1994 to may 2020
https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... y_v3_0.pdf

Killings since 1994:
Antifa: 0
Right-Wing: 329

If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

GO FUCK YOURSELF


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STOP WITH THE QUOTECEPTION YOU ARE RECKONING THE WRATH OF THE FORUM JANNIES
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Stickymayhem wrote:I did specify this was supposed to be a wholesome debate what happened?!?!?
We burnt down your thread because it reinforces the white privilege
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XDTM wrote:I mean, only one of those two ideologies has genocide as the main goal
Technically untrue - Fascism (derived from the Latin word Fasces) was invented by Mussolini, an Italian socialist that got booted out of the party because his views didn't really jive with the other socialists (they were decidedly anti war whereas he believed WW1 was awesome because it could maybe lead to the collapse of European monarchies). The main ideologies being national identity, centralised power and maybe a war or two to keep the populace from getting complacent.

Mussolini never really championed Hitler's genocidal ideas, at most just going "eh whatever keeps our big ally north happy idc".

Fascism was born from a Rome fanboy going "WOW why don't we run the country like that anymore?"
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I never managed to get into Rome
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Rome was pretty okay
They had their own issues to deal with but I think they dealt with theirs better than modern society is dealing with our issues
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Stickymayhem wrote:If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.
If you're talking about the guy from portland a couple weeks ago, there is a suspect, the suspect said he was antifa on social media about a month before the shooting, an unsealed police affidavit said he was following the guy he later shot and not the other way around, and he got into a shootout with the police when they tried to arrest him instead of just turning himself in so he must not have felt very good about his chances of proving in court that it was self defense.
Stickymayhem wrote: antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists
People who identify as part of antifa attack police officers or random people way more often than they do actual fascists.
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I'm gonna just break this quote chain here before it gets out of hand.

EDIT: Oh, someone already broke the chain.
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Yeah, Demon Hunter got toned down. Actually a pretty fun class all around and I really respect how it uses life as a resource so well just with weapon and attacking usage.
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I wish they nerfed that shit in WoW. Fucking stupid.
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excellent post, space raccoon
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Post by Timonk » #577147

I feel like vekter is turning into the next sticky

Are you going to run for headmin next election, vekter?
joooks wrote:
Naloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
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Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.


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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Post by Armhulen » #577152

Timonk wrote:I feel like vekter is turning into the next sticky

Are you going to run for headmin next election, vekter?
run these nuts on your chin
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Post by Rohen_Tahir » #577163

Armhulen wrote:
Timonk wrote:I feel like vekter is turning into the next sticky

Are you going to run for headmin next election, vekter?
run these nuts on your chin
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Post by Helios » #577197

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I've been having fun with this priest deck
Demon hunter is cancer
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Post by ThanatosRa » #577200

What's the difference between a citizen and a civilian?
my forum gimmick is that no one knows who i am

gender is irrelevant NO UR IRRELEVANT
u a bish
y u heff 2 b med
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Post by cacogen » #577278

America needs to nerf guns. They should know nobody likes to sit out.
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Post by TheWiznard » #577320

cacogen wrote:America needs to nerf guns. They should know nobody likes to sit out.
what do you mean, we've had nerf guns since 1989
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