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AA Ban Appeal legume

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Re: AA Ban Appeal

Post by XivilaiAnaxes » #587249

wait giving AA is self antag outside manuel?

bruh rip
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Re: AA Ban Appeal

Post by RaveRadbury » #587262

It used to be really hard to keep track of because you'd have to dig through hrefs and stuff, but now it's all logged. Expect more enforcement of this, because it's easier to track and enforce now.
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Re: AA Ban Appeal

Post by Farquaar » #587263

If giving the clown access to high-risk areas is self-antag, then lock me up and throw away the key.

Mediphious is still stupid for repeatedly lying though.
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Re: AA Ban Appeal

Post by Nabski » #587270

Every single low pop round has AA given out to everyone.

And here I thought I did shit takes.
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Re: AA Ban Appeal

Post by terranaut » #587317

RaveRadbury wrote:It used to be really hard to keep track of because you'd have to dig through hrefs and stuff, but now it's all logged. Expect more enforcement of this, because it's easier to track and enforce now.
which rule exactly does this break
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Post by Tlaltecuhtli » #587319

giving aa to clown and mime is week ban, yep we caught lshoe everyone
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Re: AA Ban Appeal

Post by saprasam » #587320

terranaut wrote:
RaveRadbury wrote:It used to be really hard to keep track of because you'd have to dig through hrefs and stuff, but now it's all logged. Expect more enforcement of this, because it's easier to track and enforce now.
which rule exactly does this break
i dont remember it breaking a single rule at all
only qualm with it is that it fucks over rounds0
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Post by Tlaltecuhtli » #587321

https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/round/154175 low pop round with no heads outside hop and no sec
by logs only people getting aa is clown, mime, and engi giving it to himself and the wizard doing it to himself in hop office probably after killing the acting captain hop
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Post by Yenwodyah » #587325

Did they let another manuelmin out of their pen?
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Re: AA Ban Appeal

Post by Rohen_Tahir » #587328

terranaut wrote:
RaveRadbury wrote:It used to be really hard to keep track of because you'd have to dig through hrefs and stuff, but now it's all logged. Expect more enforcement of this, because it's easier to track and enforce now.
which rule exactly does this break
RP rule 23 precedent 800-588-2300: While playing as a command role, you must be an asshole at all times, otherwise it's FailRP.
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Re: AA Ban Appeal

Post by Screemonster » #587330

if giving the clown all access is a sin then i will face god and walk backwards into hell
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Re: AA Ban Appeal

Post by Fiz Bump » #587358

I feel like its in the same vein as growing deathnettles/kudzu as a botanist or making lube as a chemist.
The act itself isn't necessarily banworthy, but you have to be prepared to be 100% responsible for any and all shit that arises as a result.
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Re: AA Ban Appeal

Post by chocolate_bickie » #587375

Hey there, I noticed you didn't consult the RD before promoting that assistant to scientist. Sorry but that's a week ban from HOP. Please take this time to re-read our rules https://wiki.baystation12.net/Rules
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Post by wesoda25 » #587380

chocolate_bickie I think there was a mistake you linked baystations rules instead of ours
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wait
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Post by RaveRadbury » #587391

wesoda25 wrote:wait
where do we get these bluenames? smh
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Post by Anuv » #587411

Increase his ban for such a blatant lie about misclicking/cargo tech being next to captain in the job list. What a moron.
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Post by kopoba » #587415

Well technically cap is near cargo tech.
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Re: AA Ban Appeal

Post by cacogen » #587424

This used to be my shtick but people don't respect you if you give them things for free you need to gatekeep them and treat them like they're untrustworthy which they are instead
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Re: AA Ban Appeal

Post by cacogen » #587425

This used to be my shtick but people don't respect you if you give them things for free you need to gatekeep them and treat them like they're untrustworthy which they are so I'm glad the coders have cracked down on it by coding solutions to an administrator problem I need to gatekeep it so it dies within a year of me having done it
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Re: AA Ban Appeal

Post by Nalzul » #587426

kopoba wrote:Well technically cap is near cargo tech.
depends on monitor, this is on a 1920x1080 and I didn't resize the window at all Image
(funnily enough the round I joined to take this pic had lowpop with people spreading AA)
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Post by Tlaltecuhtli » #587435

>(funnily enough the round I joined to take this pic had lowpop with people spreading AA)

yes cause its not against the rules to do so
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Post by chocolate_bickie » #587443

This might be more for policy discussion but is this a rule 5.4 ban
https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Rules
5.4 abuse of position; as in being deliberately incompetent or malicious in their position is not allowed. Deliberate incompetence or malice can result in warnings or bans, depending on severity. Example would be a chemist constantly abusing the position to make space lube and lubing hallways, they may be warned and then jobbanned if further abuse happens.

If so is an assistant/clown allowed to hand out or steal AA?
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Post by kopoba » #587452

chocolate_bickie wrote: If so is an assistant/clown allowed to hand out or steal AA?
I think yes :honkman: :head:
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Post by Mothblocks » #587480

chocolate_bickie wrote:This might be more for policy discussion but is this a rule 5.4 ban
https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Rules
5.4 abuse of position; as in being deliberately incompetent or malicious in their position is not allowed. Deliberate incompetence or malice can result in warnings or bans, depending on severity. Example would be a chemist constantly abusing the position to make space lube and lubing hallways, they may be warned and then jobbanned if further abuse happens.

If so is an assistant/clown allowed to hand out or steal AA?
try it and see what happens, or dont
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Post by trollbreeder » #587481

can you please put "peanut" in the title, i keep thinking this is the actual ban appeal thread
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Post by cacogen » #587482

chocolate_bickie wrote:This might be more for policy discussion but is this a rule 5.4 ban
https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Rules
5.4 abuse of position; as in being deliberately incompetent or malicious in their position is not allowed. Deliberate incompetence or malice can result in warnings or bans, depending on severity. Example would be a chemist constantly abusing the position to make space lube and lubing hallways, they may be warned and then jobbanned if further abuse happens.
We need server based rules. Which is de facto due to the different server cultures and the existence of Manuel but lubing halls is fun and funny and if you're a serious job simulationist like myself it's a fucking pain in the ass but it should be allowed on a server where you go there expecting it given the code's inability to reconcile different levels of play rather than having the fun police ruin it for everyone.
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Post by terranaut » #587497

trollbreeder wrote:can you please put "peanut" in the title, i keep thinking this is the actual ban appeal thread
here u go sir
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Post by Gigapuddi420 » #587571

cacogen wrote:We need server based rules. Which is de facto due to the different server cultures and the existence of Manuel but lubing halls is fun and funny and if you're a serious job simulationist like myself it's a fucking pain in the ass but it should be allowed on a server where you go there expecting it given the code's inability to reconcile different levels of play rather than having the fun police ruin it for everyone.
From my understanding it is allowed, to a extent. The reason this kind of thing gets written into a rule is because there's a special kind of autistic who thinks "this gimmick was funny once, so maybe it'll be fun every round". Point is there's a difference between the chemist who lubes security hall because he has beef with security over something that happened that round vs. the player who rolls chemist just to lube the security hall every round to fuck with security for no reason. It's hard to reflect this in rules but roughly speaking you can get away with a surprising amount so long as you have a actual cause and effect going on and you're not coming across as a malicious cunt. Most people stumble at that latter part.
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Post by Tlaltecuhtli » #587575

no job outside of heads has any enforcement to be played srs, and we have ppl with 10h playing heads and wondering why man kills him after being flashed
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Post by Armhulen » #587585

As with all things AA leaking is fun but the fact that on bagil it happens nearly every single round makes it no longer fun and overdone so on the nth round in a row where AA leaks the hop blatently being shitty at their role should be bannable yes. Same thing with chem, they can lube but really dude that's all you're gonna do as chemist every single time you play?
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Post by cacogen » #587592

Now I will go chemist and lube halls having not done it in years and get in trouble with admins.
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Post by oranges » #587607

finish the AA overhaul
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Post by Screemonster » #587689

oranges wrote:finish the AA overhaul
why is access stored on an ID card's vars anyway rather than datums or something that the id console can change
agent ids would have to be changed to spoof a particular person's access rather than copying the accesses on the card
it'd be interesting to copy someone's ID to get all access then hope you can get your crimes done before someone realises that person is dead and revokes their access

edit: the main thing is you'd need the heads of staff to have some sort of override key they can use to restore their access in case the clown gets hold of the console and demotes the entire crew to assistant
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Re: AA Ban Appeal legume

Post by CoffeeDragon16 » #587691

what arm said yeah it isnt so bad always, issue is it happens like every single round on bagil and it almost always ruins the round because you have a thousand frothing greytiders with shotguns that will kill you for daring to shove them after they break into your workplace and steal your shit and then an antag loots the armory and everyone dies
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Post by Rohen_Tahir » #587697

CoffeeDragon16 wrote:what arm said yeah it isnt so bad always, issue is it happens like every single round on bagil and it almost always ruins the round because you have a thousand frothing greytiders with shotguns that will kill you for daring to shove them after they break into your workplace and steal your shit and then an antag loots the armory and everyone dies
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