How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

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How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby Helios » Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:37 pm #588223

What would be a reasonable retalitation for pulling out of a deal that cost tens of thousands of Canadians jobs, and negatively effected our economy.
Would pulling out of a defensive arrangement like NORAD be reasonable? Or pulling out of a trade deal?



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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby Horza » Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:47 pm #588224

The fact that you think Trudeau would ever retaliate for a move which fucked over Alberta and Saskatchewan is laughable. Doubly so when it's a move by Joe Biden ostensibly to combat climate change.
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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby Helios » Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:15 pm #588226

Horza wrote:The fact that you think Trudeau would ever retaliate for a move which fucked over Alberta and Saskatchewan is laughable. Doubly so when it's a move by Joe Biden ostensibly to combat climate change.

It fucked over Canada. When people fuck you over, you should retaliate in turn

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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby bobbahbrown » Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:18 pm #588227

oil sands are disastrous for the environment, US is doing us a favor

pulling out of norad sounds like a suggestion from a commie
suggesting pulling out of a trade deal after just claiming to care about the economy even more so...

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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby Super Aggro Crag » Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:35 pm #588229

"dude wtf they elected a democrat and he immediately set about destroying people's livelihoods?????"
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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby IkeTG » Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:57 pm #588231

Helios wrote:Or pulling out of a trade deal?

lmao

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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby Rohen_Tahir » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:28 pm #588234

Helios wrote:
Horza wrote:The fact that you think Trudeau would ever retaliate for a move which fucked over Alberta and Saskatchewan is laughable. Doubly so when it's a move by Joe Biden ostensibly to combat climate change.

It fucked over Canada. When people fuck you over, you should retaliate in turn

Politicians don't care about you.

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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby thehogshotgun » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:35 pm #588235

Helios wrote:What would be a reasonable retalitation for pulling out of a deal that cost tens of thousands of Canadians jobs, and negatively effected our economy.
Would pulling out of a defensive arrangement like NORAD be reasonable? Or pulling out of a trade deal?


I don't think we would be losing much with Canada pulling out of NORAD

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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby MMMiracles » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:38 pm #588237

Super Aggro Crag wrote:"dude wtf they elected a democrat and he immediately set about destroying people's livelihoods?????"

have you ever worked as a tradesman or talked to one?

these people literally work project to project, constantly moving between sites, usually paid by their union to stay at a hotel for the job's duration and then move on to the next.

most of these people are probably going to either just file for unemployment and wait about a week or two before they're assigned a new site to work at. the only 'livelihoods' this will fuck over are the CEOs who were dumb enough to go ahead with it when obama already denied it during his presidency and assumed republicans could keep someone in office after trump.
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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby Tlaltecuhtli » Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:27 pm #588239

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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby Armhulen » Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:28 pm #588240

Keystone pipeline 4000 jobs, 35 when completed. keystone pipeline's company that is creating it does not contest this

not worth trampling all the native american land you have no right to, and certainly not worth the environmental costs
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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby XivilaiAnaxes » Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:55 pm #588242

Man what is it with you and your bizarre political takes? Like bruh did you really just say "Maybe the Canadians should pull out of NORAD"???? Like seriously dude, what the fuck?
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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby Farquaar » Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:56 pm #588255

Armhulen wrote:not worth trampling all the native american land you have no right to, and certainly not worth the environmental costs

The aboriginal issue is a bit more complex than that.

A large contingent of aboriginal people (at least in Canada) support pipelines. There were a number of op-eds written last year by Wet’suwet’en chiefs complaining that the Coastal GasLink issue was being framed as “natives hate pipelines”, when in reality most aboriginal people don’t mind infrastructure development if it’s done responsibly.

TL;DR it’s more complicated than “natives vs. big oil”

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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby Farquaar » Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:14 am #588256

Also, if Trump played hardball with Canada for the past 4 years while Trudeau sat on his thumb, I don’t think we’ll be seeing anything crazy or drastic like you’re suggesting, Helios.

Canada is still America’s hat.

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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby thehogshotgun » Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:52 am #588261

Farquaar wrote:Canada is still America’s hat.


Canada is our FUCKING BITCH

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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby bobbahbrown » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:19 am #588266

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Canada is our FUCKING BITCH


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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby cacogen » Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:02 am #588267

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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby Helios » Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:49 pm #588319

bobbahbrown wrote:oil sands are disastrous for the environment, US is doing us a favor

pulling out of norad sounds like a suggestion from a commie
suggesting pulling out of a trade deal after just claiming to care about the economy even more so...

gonna need to see proof of citizenship... csis has already been alerted...

Suggesting we do nothing to retaliate makes you sound like you're south of the border.
Reason I brought up NORAD is because since 1984, Canada has been disarmed from nuclear weapons. American military ships docked in vancouver and other ports have nuclear capabilities. The entire controversy started because of nuclear weapons used by the air force.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_an ... _armaments
Withdrawing or changing the agreement so Americans can't use nukes on Canadian soil seems reasonable.
If you have a more reasonable retaliation, let me know. The entire point of this thread was asking suggestions

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Postby Flatulent » Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:10 pm #588329

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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby Timonk » Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:32 pm #588337

Super Aggro Crag wrote:"dude wtf they elected a democrat and he immediately set about destroying people's livelihoods?????"

"dude wtf they elected a Democrat and he immediately set out about not destroying the environment and not contributing to the fact that the earth is slowly dying and that the US is one of the biggest contributors?????"
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Postby Tlaltecuhtli » Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:37 pm #588339

> earth is slowly

bro the animals are gonna just evolve and survive the enviroment, we dont have to give them welfare and private property

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Postby Armhulen » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:23 pm #588340

Tlaltecuhtli wrote:> earth is slowly

bro the animals are gonna just evolve and survive the enviroment, we dont have to give them welfare and private property

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Postby XivilaiAnaxes » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:38 pm #588342

I'm not sure how to tell you this Helios, but you sesame seeds dont have Hammurabi in charge. Justin Trudeau isn't going to begin a long path of vengeance leading to the deaths of everyone on the continent - he's going to be a good little dog and do nothing at all. Maybe a couple Canadians will write it in their book of grudges to be snarky with at a later date but nothing is going to happen.
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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby IkeTG » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:55 pm #588343

Helios wrote:Suggesting we do nothing to retaliate makes you sound like you're south of the border.

this is what bad canadians say, you should be better

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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby Horza » Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:37 am #588356

Timonk wrote:
Super Aggro Crag wrote:"dude wtf they elected a democrat and he immediately set about destroying people's livelihoods?????"

"dude wtf they elected a Democrat and he immediately set out about not destroying the environment and not contributing to the fact that the earth is slowly dying and that the US is one of the biggest contributors?????"

I agree, importing oil from countries with no meaningful environmental controls, no meaningful human rights policies, controlled by outright authoritarian governments, literally using slave labor, is always better.
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Postby Timonk » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:10 am #588366

The US would do that even with the pipeline
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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby Horza » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:38 am #588369

Timonk wrote:The US would do that even with the pipeline

Let's implode the entire economy of the protectorate to the north of us in order to get overpriced and unethical oil from horrifically authoritarian and murderous regimes halfway across the world.
What's that? Oil tankers burn heavy unrefined oil and more than offset the carbon savings from not buying it next door?

Nah, let's throw more homosexuals off rooftops. Gotta keep that oil under $3/gallon at all costs.
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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby Timonk » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:50 am #588372

If your economy depends on building a huge nature destroying pipeline across half of north America then your economy is fucked either way
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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby Horza » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:55 am #588375

Timonk wrote:If your economy depends on building a huge nature destroying pipeline across half of north America then your economy is fucked either way

I too agree that the industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
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Postby Stickymayhem » Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:37 am #588380

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or uhhh

renewable energy?

The kind that creates permanent jobs, endless energy and sets the US up to be geopolitically relevant in the face of chinese renewable expansion across developing nations?
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Postby Rohen_Tahir » Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:41 am #588382

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DrPillzRedux wrote:Image


or uhhh

renewable energy?

The kind that creates permanent jobs, endless energy and sets the US up to be geopolitically relevant in the face of chinese renewable expansion across developing nations?

But that's not what lobbyists pay the people in the US govt for.

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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby cacogen » Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:56 am #588391

Horza wrote:
Timonk wrote:If your economy depends on building a huge nature destroying pipeline across half of north America then your economy is fucked either way

I too agree that the industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

Reading this taught me things, even if it signals right-wing edgelord
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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby Helios » Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:09 am #588605

XivilaiAnaxes wrote:I'm not sure how to tell you this Helios, but you sesame seeds dont have Hammurabi in charge. Justin Trudeau isn't going to begin a long path of vengeance leading to the deaths of everyone on the continent - he's going to be a good little dog and do nothing at all. Maybe a couple Canadians will write it in their book of grudges to be snarky with at a later date but nothing is going to happen.

I asked how should Canada react, not how will Canada react.
2 different questions.

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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby Timonk » Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:09 am #588612

They should be happy that the US came to their senses
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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby cacogen » Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:14 am #588616

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Re: How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Postby wesoda25 » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:25 am #588621

Could someone redpill me on american politics and our relations/expectations/place in global politics really quick

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Postby thehogshotgun » Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:51 pm #588639

wesoda25 wrote:Could someone redpill me on american politics and our relations/expectations/place in global politics really quick


America #1. Also Europe would crumble into commie hell without chad American presence trust me on this

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wesoda25 wrote:Could someone redpill me on american politics and our relations/expectations/place in global politics really quick

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wesoda25 wrote:Could someone redpill me on american politics and our relations/expectations/place in global politics really quick

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