An0n3 wrote:-snip-
I am glad we are on the same page here. That if yo uare actively egging on and directly inciting and encouraging a lynching, you SHOULD be held accountable.
Just the other round I made an anti-lizard labor union. We had a newsfeed called "The Human Worker" or "Pure Nanotrasen" can't remember. We also said shit like "Lizards steal human jobs and don't belong in the workplace" We got lizards fired from their positions by threatening a strike, and we got humans promoted from assistant. It was functioning. We DID spew hate speech, we did declare people traitors to the human race. We said VERY inflammatory things, on purpose to rile people up, but only to get them to sign union papers. There was no "Greytide lynchmob" formed, even though there was hate speech against lizards.
What we can conclude is that speech does not cause these lynchmobs to form. There were a SHIT ton of murders that round, safe to say a few at least were non antag. People found another excuse and killed someone, that happens. But I myself never called for anyone to kill any lizards, neither did the union even though we did call for a "call to arms by human workers for their rights"
My point here is that my speech did not incite the mob, but COULD be considered "entertaining the idea." This ruling is general enough to lockout that kind of roleplay that is engaging, causes minor contradiction and allows for emergent gameplay.
If the ruling was "Do not intentionally incite or encourage a mob" with the decision as to what is "intentional" at the discretion of admins to avoid "toeing the line," that would work. But leaving it up to the discretion of the admins as to what is "entertaining the idea of a lynchmob," is how you put it, a "slippery slope."
So your right, don't be Charles Manson, but if you become more like Jesus or Muhammad it should not be your fault when someone takes what you say and beats the clown to death, with "they took er jerbs" or even "Gas the lizards" said in passing. Now, however (like in my recent jobban) when someone plays the chaplain, and follows the mob around shouting "STRIP THAT FUCKER NUDE, GET THAT SCALY FREAK OUT" and someone somewhere else murders the fuck out of a lizard and yells "SCALEY FUCK, HUMAN POWER," that seems like a fair jobban, totally fair. But if someone says some shit like "LIZARDS DESERVE WHAT THEY GET" or "LIZARDS SHOULD BE PUT TO WORK IN EITHER MINING OR AS ASSISTANTS." And someone takes that as the greenlight to murder the fuck out of a lizard, unless the "Screamer" was watching said murder happen and cheering it on, there should be no punishment.
Chopin's Op. 9 No. 2