SS13 Remake Source

Phalanx300 · Post by **Phalanx300** » Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:51 am #59846

http://forum.spacestation13.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=552

Apparantly the source will be released shortly. I wonder what that will mean for the future of SS13.

Post by **PKPenguin321** » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:33 am #59873

Wow. So much potential in this, it's kinda hard to comprehend.

paprika · Post by **paprika** » Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:28 am #59879

do we need to prove that open source is better for development or what

/tg/ and /vg/ coders are collabing on a spiritual successor, nothing could go wrong with hornygranny, pomf, and n3x15 leading the charge in this source code's development

at all

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:22 am #59911

ITS HABBEDING

Kraso · Post by **Kraso** » Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:51 pm #59936

Miauw wrote:ITS HABBEDING

Remie Richards · Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:47 pm

Violaceus wrote:Sounds great, I would love to see coders from main branches of ss13 forming one team to make something working out of that code.

Like this will ever happen...

it's literally already happening right now.
with N3X15 of VG as project lead.

Comrade Leo · Post by **Comrade Leo** » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:02 pm #59978

I want to habeeb

bandit · Post by **bandit** » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:03 pm #59979

remember: no clown, no credibility

Steelpoint · Post by **Steelpoint** » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:12 pm #59981

A new future for space station 13.

Who knows what will happen, nonetheless I hope something good comes out of this.

Jalleo · Post by **Jalleo** » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:34 pm #59987

As we know supernorns sprites wont be there though. Measures are already being put in place but for now the remake is going to be opensourced with codersprites. Not to mention a lot of the content we uave will need to be recreated for the remake. Medical is bareoy existant. There is atmos and some other bits and bobs but its really the engine that has been made so far not much else.

Spriters will be needed later on when more content exists but really at the moment only a engine and some things exist as we have heard.
We are talking a hell of a lot for what design should be done with everything from power to medicine to UI to money. Its going to be a while. But its hopefully getting there

We found out a day or eo ago and have been in a mad frenzy talking about it but are wanting to keep it low key due to the fact that its nothing truly complete and ready as we know.

Cuboos · Post by **Cuboos** » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:56 pm #59997

I could make 3D sprites that won't look shit and actually work well!

danno · Post by **danno** » Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:29 pm #60009

paprika wrote:do we need to prove that open source is better for development or what

/tg/ and /vg/ coders are collabing on a spiritual successor, nothing could go wrong with hornygranny, pomf, and n3x15 leading the charge in this source code's development

at all

HAHAHAHA
dear god

paprika · Post by **paprika** » Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:17 pm #60056

this is literally the next evolution in bikeshedding and coder drama

i'm so excited

ShadowDimentio · Sun Jan 18, 2015 2:03 am

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 2:06 am #60068

I will remain blindly optimistic and yell at you lot when it fails.

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:16 am #60077

at least when it's open source you can say "well i dont see YOU working on it either"

Apogate · Post by **Apogate** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:04 am #60351

http://forum.spacestation13.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=553

https://github.com/ss13remake/ss13remake

danno · Post by **danno** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:10 am #60355

rest in shit.

paprika · Post by **paprika** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:56 am #60378

Apogate · Post by **Apogate** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:12 am #60388

That looks incredibly disappointing

DrPillzRedux · Post by **DrPillzRedux** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:24 am #60389

It's fucking bare bones no shit it looks disappointing. This can only get better. I know Volundr from goon is helping.

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:59 am #60451

What the fuck is that sprite even christ shit what

tedward1337 · Post by **tedward1337** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:08 pm #60453

Well im excited at least. This just requires work. The engine is all there

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:32 pm #60471

Apogate wrote:That looks incredibly disappointing

Even the semi-naked janitor's misshapen head appears to be hung low in shame

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:41 pm #60473

It looks even worse than those screenshots of the oldest version of SS13.

Phalanx300 · Post by **Phalanx300** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:52 pm #60476

Not sure about the complaints surely you can see the potential in this without being restricted by Byond. If you look at this picture they posted a while ago (not sure if art or ingame actually):

Spoiler:

Steelpoint · Post by **Steelpoint** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:53 pm #60477

It has potential, lets just see if the new developers are capable of finishing this.

Phalanx300 · Post by **Phalanx300** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:52 pm #60483

I just realised why it looks so bad: "The original sprites for the game, created by Adam Riches, have been withheld for use in a future project at his discretion. The original sprites have been replaced with placeholder images."

QuartzCrystal · Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:11 pm

I always thought the original sprites look goofy as fuck.

Prophoem · Post by **Prophoem** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:08 pm #60513

I honestly dont know what you guys where expecting it to look like. This game isnt near done and they took a lot of the art assets out because of legal reasons.

What matters is that we have base, an engine we have a start which is far more then any other project has had yet we can't just sit and complain about how little was done, otherwise we will never get to play spessmen in HD.

On that note where are HornyGranny and the others updating there work?

QuartzCrystal · Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:46 pm

Prophoem wrote:I honestly dont know what you guys where expecting it to look like. This game isnt near done and they took a lot of the art assets out because of legal reasons.

I know, I was implying with my comment that I'm looking forward to someone making new sprites that don't look goofy. This is a good thing.

fleure · Post by **fleure** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:21 pm #60530

I am very excited, and I aim to try and get involved where possible.

Depending on the enthusiasm of other coders, that may mean our codebase stagnates, though.

BornToHonk · Post by **BornToHonk** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:34 pm #60535

https://github.com/ss13remake/ss13remake

Exodus from byond when?

Prophoem · Post by **Prophoem** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:39 pm #60537

QuartzCrystal wrote:
Prophoem wrote:I honestly dont know what you guys where expecting it to look like. This game isnt near done and they took a lot of the art assets out because of legal reasons.
I know, I was implying with my comment that I'm looking forward to someone making new sprites that don't look goofy. This is a good thing.

Sorry, i was getting mad because it seemed that everyone was complaining as though the original creators of this engine were being lazy.

Phalanx300 · Post by **Phalanx300** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:09 pm #60548

http://www.spacestation14.com/

Prophoem · Post by **Prophoem** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:15 pm #60551

Phalanx300 wrote:http://www.spacestation14.com/

I am really happy that this engine was written in C# because that is the only language i really know XD

Post by **PKPenguin321** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:23 pm #60553

>tfw you download github repository but can not into code
how do i start the spess
i just want to play a broken barebones remake
how do

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:29 pm #60557

PKPenguin321 wrote:>tfw you download github repository but can not into code
how do i start the spess
i just want to play a broken barebones remake
how do

You fucking learn how to code. You don't start running until you know how to walk, do you? Take a few C-Sharp tutorials, that's the language this seems to be written in, there are plenty on the internet.

Prophoem · Post by **Prophoem** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:37 pm #60558

http://scottlilly.com/learn-c-by-buildi ... rpg-index/

Here is a really good tutorial for all interested in learning C#. Its long but the person making it is very good at describing everything in a way that at least i understand.

For anyone else getting System.IO.FileNotFoundException you are supposed to run "Build resource pack" in the resource folder of the source code. Sorta wish there was some way for us stupids to be told that but whatever.

Apogate · Post by **Apogate** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:40 pm #60559

Has anyone officially picked up where this left off yet?
It has been a whole 19 hours after all.
i suck dicks and can't read

Prophoem · Post by **Prophoem** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:43 pm #60560

Have you been paying attention bro? Phalanx posted the link to SS14 just a little up the screen.

Prophoem · Post by **Prophoem** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:54 pm #60584

SS14 has a Phabricator page we are going to move everything from the current graphical stuff to OpenGL in order to allow Macs and linux to play.

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:09 pm #60585

I tried but I just can't get excited over SS13 remakes any more. I'll cheer when you guys actually have something playable.

Remie Richards · Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:37 pm

Violaceus wrote:>Space Wizards Federation

We're the best in spess.

Prophoem · Post by **Prophoem** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:34 am #60641

I think that one of the best things we can do to keep this remake from dying is just spread the word. Annoying people in OOC and Deadchat maybe even doing a full announcement on the site i don't know I am certain that given the opperotunity to leave the junky BYOND engine most people would happily jump ship. And then leave once they realize it doesn't have the same numer of options as TG allready has. But it would still be in there heads and that is what is important at this stage and in the future.

Post by **PKPenguin321** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:31 am #60680

Prophoem wrote:http://scottlilly.com/learn-c-by-buildi ... rpg-index/

Here is a really good tutorial for all interested in learning C#. Its long but the person making it is very good at describing everything in a way that at least i understand.

For anyone else getting System.IO.FileNotFoundException you are supposed to run "Build resource pack" in the resource folder of the source code. Sorta wish there was some way for us stupids to be told that but whatever.

now I have a ResourcePack.zip and am still lost and cannot into space
>tfw im a stupid

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:46 pm #60753

http://www.digg.com/r/Games/comments/ ... ce/cnustk6

Supernorn says why he didn't include the art assets he made in the source

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:13 pm #60759

Does anyone else think a 3d remake of the game will suck? So much of this game comes from the poor graphics and shitty interface. Is it going to be the same old text chat? I cant help but feel like whatever comes out the other end will either completely suck dicks or be so unrecognizable it will not even be space station 13 anymore.

Phalanx300 · Post by **Phalanx300** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:32 pm #60765

Bombadil wrote:http://www.digg.com/r/Games/comments/ ... ce/cnustk6

Supernorn says why he didn't include the art assets he made in the source

They also said their art guy wanted to use them for other projects. Its a shame though.

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:48 pm #60772

Well, one early decision that you will have to make is whether you'll keep human sprites static like they're now, or animate them. Currently, animating human sprites in /tg/station13 would be too much of an effort because you'd also have to animate every piece of clothing that already exists. But if you agree on animated sprites from the start in SS14, you will raise your workload but not run into this problem further down the line.

You'll have to settle for a general style for the game too. I made these little sprites a while ago:

Spoiler:

But although the saturated colour palette and dark (not black) outlines might work, I don't really think these proportions are suitable for SS13/14.