ION: SS13 themed or just a reference?

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:58 pm #95973

So a thing happened at E3. It was pretty vague, but this logo...

Steelpoint · Post by **Steelpoint** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:59 pm #95974

Dean Hall did say multiple times how he was inspired by games like SS13 in his development of DayZ and whatnot.

Who knows what this 'game' will be, though I would hedge my bet its just a reference.

Not-Dorsidarf · Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:06 pm

https://twitter.com/rocket2guns/status/ ... 8162302977

edit: ION. Simulation MMO from @rocketwerkz and @Improbableio Inspired by space station 13. A massive open world universe. http://Ionthegame.com

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:08 pm #95978

Not-Dorsidarf wrote:https://twitter.com/rocket2guns/status/ ... 8162302977

edit: ION. Simulation MMO from @rocketwerkz and @Improbableio Inspired by space station 13. A massive open world universe. http://Ionthegame.com

Jesus christ how horrifying.

Scones · Post by **Scones** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:23 pm #95981

what the fuck

Skorvold · Post by **Skorvold** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:34 pm #95984

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:39 pm #95985

I am mildly afraid.

Incoming · Post by **Incoming** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:40 pm #95986

Like any ss13 rerelease attempt, it probably won't actually ever come out OR It'll come out but never even approach a state where it's fun to play. Good luck though.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:50 pm #95988

Should we be concerned about existing NT logos and stuff getting trademarked and then us getting takedown shit? I know jack all about copyright law, is that even possible?

Bluespace · Post by **Bluespace** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:04 pm #95992

Wyzack wrote:Should we be concerned about existing NT logos and stuff getting trademarked and then us getting takedown shit? I know jack all about copyright law, is that even possible?

it's not possible.

also that's 100% definitely a nanotrasen logo.

Scones · Post by **Scones** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:06 pm #95993

well if its going to be simplistic enough to be ported to xbone i somehow doubt it can live up to the ss13 name

Loonikus · Post by **Loonikus** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:43 pm #96010

I doubt its going to be anything like SS13, but it was a nice little reference.

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:56 pm #96017

Saegrimr wrote:So a thing happened at E3. It was pretty vague, but this logo...

Also

>space shuttle immediately after this shot is called Exodus
>the name of the space station in Baystation 12 is NSS Exodus

definitely a reference

Ikarrus · Post by **Ikarrus** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:55 pm #96030

I think Invisty was the one who made the logo?

Man, we should show this to him.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:06 pm #96039

This is just going to be some shitty Space-Engineers/DayZ mashup.

Anyone crossing their fingers for a 3D open world SS13 game with cluwnes and mimes and corgis is going to be disappointed.

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:14 pm #96042

Considering its Dean Hall my expectations aren't high, but this was completely unexpected.

invisty · Post by **invisty** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:51 pm #96058

Ikarrus wrote:I think Invisty was the one who made the logo?

Man, we should show this to him.

Nah bro I just made the loading/explosion screens.

tedward1337 · Post by **tedward1337** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:12 pm #96064

Not-Dorsidarf wrote:https://twitter.com/rocket2guns/status/ ... 8162302977

edit: ION. Simulation MMO from @rocketwerkz and @Improbableio Inspired by space station 13. A massive open world universe. http://Ionthegame.com

Jesus christ
this means all of bay's lore is
is
CANON
Inb4 cats with tits

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:51 pm #96079

I'm a furry and even I recoil at the idea.

Septavius · Post by **Septavius** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:10 pm #96091

someone hold me

LunchboxKilla · Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:16 pm

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:17 pm #96100

DEAN HALL CONFIRMED FOR SHITTER

AHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

tedward1337 · Post by **tedward1337** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:17 pm #96101

LunchboxKilla wrote:

Filth

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:20 pm #96103

the only persistence allowed in ss13 is a library archive full of porn and lovecraft

Durkel · Post by **Durkel** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:52 am #96125

It was over before it even began. Rest in pieces ion.

bandit · Post by **bandit** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:13 am #96131

ion storm detected

please check all space-controlled equipment for salt

Ikarrus · Post by **Ikarrus** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:20 am #96132

invisty wrote:
Ikarrus wrote:I think Invisty was the one who made the logo?

Man, we should show this to him.
Nah bro I just made the loading/explosion screens.

Oh. Well, whoever it was was definitely from tg

Falamazeer · Post by **Falamazeer** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:02 am #96135

Not trying to be argumentative, but I'd have swore the N logo was on uterus, meaning either it existed prior to going open source
Or it's ollllllld as fuuuuuuck

Cheridan · Post by **Cheridan** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:39 am #96138

It's one thing to take inspiration from another person's work. It's entirely another thing to completely take a piece of content from that work, especially a logo, something which is SPECIFICALLY USED for branding and identification. Not cool.

Steelpoint · Post by **Steelpoint** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:26 am #96168

Honestly I think its just a reference, plain and simple.

Its not like SS13 is pure of never using its own references from other media's.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:45 am #96185

>media's

Steelpoint, why must you torture the grammar nazi inside all of us.

Steelpoint · Post by **Steelpoint** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:55 am #96187

Because I stopped caring, if you want to waste time arguing over issues of grammar than go ahead.

Summoner · Post by **Summoner** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:01 am #96189

Oh boy, this game probably will never get into any functional state.

Amnestik · Post by **Amnestik** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:46 am #96204

invisty wrote:
Ikarrus wrote:I think Invisty was the one who made the logo?

Man, we should show this to him.
Nah bro I just made the loading/explosion screens.

How did you make those? They're so... retro.

CPTANT · Post by **CPTANT** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:12 pm #96322

persistent world with permadeath sounds dandy and all, but very few of those games succeed. Usually it means vast concessions have to be made in order to not let a select group of hardcore gamers dominate a game.

Sabbat · Post by **Sabbat** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:41 pm #96329

DayZ and H1Z1 had the same issue with large groups going to a server and just taking over major areas and killing everybody, or swarming random servers, etc.

PVP games in general where you can form groups usually end that way.

In Archeage for example, Goonswarm was on my server, the one guild owned almost the entire game including enemy territory (They couldn't attack you unless you attacked them, but they could also just hide in their houses and they were usually over-geared compared to everybody because they owned everything.)

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:17 pm #96402

Ikarrus wrote:
invisty wrote:
Ikarrus wrote:I think Invisty was the one who made the logo?

Man, we should show this to him.
Nah bro I just made the loading/explosion screens.
Oh. Well, whoever it was was definitely from tg

My searchfu isn't showing much up, it might have been Dhool?

Cheridan wrote:It's one thing to take inspiration from another person's work. It's entirely another thing to completely take a piece of content from that work, especially a logo, something which is SPECIFICALLY USED for branding and identification. Not cool.

Depends... if its only used in the trailer as an easter egg then its within Fair Usage.

If they have something in the game beyond an easter egg then its not fair use.

Ikarrus · Post by **Ikarrus** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:23 pm #96403

Malkevin wrote:My searchfu isn't showing much up, it might have been Dhool?.

Yeah, he would have been my second pick.

Phalanx300 · Post by **Phalanx300** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:19 pm #96569

Seems like he is perfect for the role, being a SS13 fan.

As for the content shown it definately has the right vibes, at the end as well that clearly shows that death isn't an issue with clones being around. Also seems to immply the world is connected. Maybe it will be along the lines of people being free to create their own station with others joining, with traitors and such randomly appearing. Like the escape shuttle actually brings you to arrivals at another station that kind of stuff.

Amnestik · Post by **Amnestik** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:59 pm #96628

Cheridan wrote:It's one thing to take inspiration from another person's work. It's entirely another thing to completely take a piece of content from that work, especially a logo, something which is SPECIFICALLY USED for branding and identification. Not cool.

It's an homage

Though he's a hack so he shouldn't have been the one to reveal our secret clubhouse to the normies like that

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:21 pm #96639

it's just a fucking logo

LunchboxKilla · Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:00 am

"Players will build, live in and inevitably die in huge floating galactic constructions as humanity makes its first steps colonizing the universe," according to the trailer description. "Technology from Improbable allows ION to have a massive interconnected universe with fully simulated environments such as power grids, air pressure and heat; all to help stave off the unending vacuum of space."

Improbable is the NT corp so far

Incoming · Post by **Incoming** » Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:43 am #96688

Improbable isn't an in game thing, it's a literal company that's providing some level of support on this.

It's like they made the initial atmos station 13 version of SS13 and Dean wants to build it up as spessmens

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:12 am #96737

Just like the original...

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:48 pm #96763

Has potential

But like everything early access, it means nothing until it's actually playable

CPTANT · Post by **CPTANT** » Thu Jun 18, 2015 3:13 pm #96766

XSI wrote:Has potential

But like everything early access, it means nothing until it's actually playable

This.

Making a good game out of this concept is going to be incredibly difficult.

And I can't really say DayZ was that much of a success in the end...

JJRcop · Post by **JJRcop** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 5:27 pm #97645

From what Dean said it seems like this is going to be more like a massively multiplayer space stations game thing, that's the impression the trailer gave me. Not really like SS13 in the sense of rounds and gamemodes, definitely going to be different.
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So in that case I'd say more reference.

Post by **MisterPerson** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:59 am #97902

I don't really see how you can say "reference" considering Dean basically wants it to be the same game.