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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby pubby » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:14 pm #391852

I don't think traitor_uplink_items_bought is working correctly. It's not listing every item and the values seem off.



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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby Atlanta-Ned » Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:36 pm #405498

The round end report json, which tells you who survived and who didn't, is available now: https://atlantaned.space/statbus/round. ... _data.json
I also tweaked some stat views so they work better.
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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby Atlanta-Ned » Wed May 16, 2018 6:47 pm #410849

I just pushed an update to the admin activity page: https://atlantaned.space/statbus/info.php?admins
Note that some admins(me) won't show up due to inconsistencies between the admin table and the rest of the database. Unfortunately resolving that is out of my hands. nevermind mysql supports regex and this is probably not optimal.

Ghost minutes are (assumed) time spent actively adminning, while living minutes are (assumed) spent playing the game. This data goes back to since we started tracking time spent playing roles. As with connection numbers, this data should only be used to get a rough idea of how active an admin is; this is not the definitive authority on whether or not they're dead.

Also! Poly is back on the homepage if you're logged in! Hooray!
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### ListVarEdit by Atlanta-ned: /datum/reagents reagent_list: Water=/obj/item/weapon/gun/energy/alien
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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby Qbopper » Thu May 17, 2018 12:18 am #410913

I think the GBP page is still busted
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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby Atlanta-Ned » Thu May 17, 2018 2:19 am #410931

Qbopper wrote:I think the GBP page is still busted

it is in fact, still busted. I will fix it tomorrow.
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### ListVarEdit by Atlanta-ned: /datum/reagents reagent_list: Water=/obj/item/weapon/gun/energy/alien
IcePacks wrote:>all you have is a taser and the cold realization that you're a haphazard bandaid over a problem that may or may not exist, applied by someone who doesn't know or care enough about their job to do it properly

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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby Atlanta-Ned » Thu May 17, 2018 4:06 pm #411082

Atlanta-Ned wrote:
Qbopper wrote:I think the GBP page is still busted

it is in fact, still busted. I will fix it tomorrow.


Fixed it and rolled it out into its own microservice.

Please update your bookmarks: https://atlantaned.space/coderbus/
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### ListVarEdit by Atlanta-ned: /datum/reagents reagent_list: Water=/obj/item/weapon/gun/energy/alien
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OOC: Pizzatiger: God damn Atlanta, how are you so fucking smart and charming. It fucking pisses me off how perfect you are

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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby Atlanta-Ned » Mon May 21, 2018 8:30 pm #412108

Admin ranks & flags viewer: https://atlantaned.space/statbus/info.php?ranks
Green indicates they have that flag, user+pencil icon indicates that users can edit those flags.
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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby iamgoofball » Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:31 am #416838

reposting from discord
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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby DemonFiren » Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:09 am #416886

how does kekhi not know what the energy shotgun is

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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby Denton » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:21 am #431484

traitor_uplink_items_bought seems to leave out most items since December 2017.
For example, compare July 2018 with October 2017:

https://atlantaned.space/statbus/stat.p ... 18&month=7
https://atlantaned.space/statbus/stat.p ... 7&month=10

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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby Mickyan » Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:13 pm #433550

Logs appear to be broken, the last available logs are from the 12th of August
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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby Kingfish » Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:27 am #434829

parsed logs fucked again

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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby Atlanta-Ned » Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:18 pm #446025

I want to post about the filter I developed for the cat people poll. Here are the unfiltered results.

When I asked, MSO's requirements for the filter were:
1 hour of play time (time spent in living job role) in the 30 days leading up to the vote being created (by summing the role_time_log table for the time period)


...and the query below was submitted for his approval before it was posted publicly.

Here's the raw SQL query that I came up with:

Code: Select all
SELECT
count(DISTINCT tbl_poll_vote.id) AS votes,
tbl_poll_option.text AS `option`
FROM tbl_poll_vote
LEFT JOIN tbl_poll_option ON tbl_poll_vote.optionid = tbl_poll_option.id
LEFT JOIN tbl_role_time_log ON tbl_poll_vote.ckey = tbl_role_time_log.ckey AND (tbl_role_time_log.job = 'Living')
LEFT JOIN tbl_poll_question ON tbl_poll_vote.pollid = tbl_poll_question.id
WHERE tbl_poll_vote.pollid = ?
AND tbl_role_time_log.datetime BETWEEN tbl_poll_question.starttime - INTERVAL 30 DAY AND tbl_poll_question.starttime
GROUP BY tbl_poll_vote.optionid
HAVING sum(tbl_role_time_log.delta) >= 60
ORDER BY votes DESC;


First off, every instance of `tbl_` is replaced with the actual table prefix used by the database. This allows statbus to be used regardless of what database prefix is being used.

Every vote cast gets a unique, automatically incrementing ID associated with it. This allows the database to keep track of everything, and speeds up queries. This is a standard practice across relational databases. Everything in tgdb polls is referenced by an ID. `count(DISTINCT tbl_poll_vote.id) AS votes` simply tallies up the number of unique IDs and provides it in the result as a column titled 'votes'.

In tgdb, polls are split across a few different tables:
  • `ss13poll_question` contains the basic information about the poll, like what the question is, who started the poll, how long it runs for, etc.
  • `ss13poll_option` are the options associated with the poll. So answers like 'yes', 'no', 'atlantaned is the best admin' are stored in this table. These answers are associated with, and tied to, the ID column from `ss13poll_question`.
  • `ss13poll_vote` is a record of the actual vote cast by a player. This records the poll ID, and the ID of the vote option that the player selected. The player's ckey is also saved as well.

It seems crazy that this complex query only returns two columns, the vote option text and how many votes were cast for it. The actual filtering part starts with `LEFT JOIN tbl_role_time_log ON tbl_poll_vote.ckey = tbl_role_time_log.ckey AND (tbl_role_time_log.job = 'Living')`:

This line takes the ckey that gets saved when a player casts a vote, and references it with EVERY entry they have in `ss13role_time_log`. This is a really useful table that stores how long someone spent as a role, saved every 10 minutes. Some 'broader' data is also stored in `ss13role_time_log`, such as how long someone spends living (not as a ghost). So if I spend ten minutes playing captain, I also spent ten minutes living. Make sense?

So we're only collecting how much time a player has spent living when we join `ss13role_time_log`. The second part of the filter is this line: `AND tbl_role_time_log.datetime BETWEEN tbl_poll_question.starttime - INTERVAL 30 DAY AND tbl_poll_question.starttime`

`ss13role_time_log` also includes a timestamp of when the data was recorded. This line above says "only look at entries for this ckey in `ss13role_time_log` that were entered within 30 days before the start of the poll". So we're only looking at time spent playing during that period.

`WHERE tbl_poll_vote.pollid = ?` simply selects the poll data based on the poll ID. The `?` is a placeholder for a the poll ID, the replacement/securing of which is handled by PHP.

Without `GROUP BY tbl_poll_vote.optionid`, we'd get a result of almost 600 rows. This line tells the query to count based on votes that share the same optionid.

Finally, the last part of the filter, `HAVING sum(tbl_role_time_log.delta) >= 60`. This lets me use an aggregate function, `sum()`, to further restrict the query. In this case, we're taking all those minutes we found from `ss13role_time_log` and summing them up. And if the sum is greater than or equal to 60 (one hour of playtime within 30 days of the poll starting), we count it!

Lastly, `ORDER BY votes DESC;` simply orders the results by the `votes` column, in descending order.

I hope this has been illuminating for you.If there are any questions feel free to ask them here, or ping me on discord.
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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby DemonFiren » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:08 pm #446058

brb, playing two rounds every month so I can vote on this shit next time
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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby Atlanta-Ned » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:08 pm #446367

I redesigned the round view pages: https://atlantaned.space/statbus/round.php?round=95561
And I'm updating the icons to a newer version of the file. So everything is in fact horribly broken.
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OOC: Pizzatiger: God damn Atlanta, how are you so fucking smart and charming. It fucking pisses me off how perfect you are

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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby Atlanta-Ned » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:50 pm #446406

Parsed logs are BACK: https://atlantaned.space/statbus/round. ... &file=game
Please note that parsed logs are NOT currently qualified for use in ban appeals! As soon as MSO signs off on them though, you'll be good to go.

Please report any errors to me here, or on discord.
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### ListVarEdit by Atlanta-ned: /datum/reagents reagent_list: Water=/obj/item/weapon/gun/energy/alien
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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby Atlanta-Ned » Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:25 am #446943

I've got some pretty groundbreaking news to share.

As it turns out, the filter query I came up with wasn't giving the correct results. This, in spite of me going through it line-by-line, in public, after MSO went over it.

Due to some misgivings with the results, I pulled down the raw data and filtered it by hand. It didn't match up with what I was seeing on Statbus' filtered results. Or the unfiltered results. So I reached out to MSO and he sent me a query he uses for the IRV poll filtering. I adapted it to match the current cat people poll, and these results matched the manually filtered results. We're working to determine what went wrong.

The accurate poll results are now live here.

Needless to say, I am deeply sorry that my results were incorrect, and I apologize for contributing to what is already a stressful situation.

Note that this does error does NOT affect any previous polls available on Statbus.




That being said, let's review the newer, better query!

Code: Select all
SELECT
COUNT(o.id) AS votes,
o.text AS `option`
FROM ss13poll_vote AS v
LEFT JOIN ss13poll_option AS o ON (v.optionid = o.id)
LEFT JOIN ss13player AS p ON (v.ckey = p.ckey)
LEFT JOIN ss13poll_question AS q ON (v.pollid = q.id)
WHERE v.pollid = ?
AND
  (SELECT SUM(j.delta)
  FROM ss13role_time_log AS j
  WHERE j.job IN ('Living')
  AND j.datetime BETWEEN q.starttime - INTERVAL 30 DAY AND q.starttime
  AND j.ckey = v.ckey) >= 60
  GROUP BY o.text
ORDER BY votes DESC;


I'll split this up into three distinct chunks:

Code: Select all
SELECT
  COUNT(o.id) AS votes,
  o.text AS `option`
  FROM ss13poll_vote AS v


For starters, this looks a lot different from the last query. That's because this one makes heavy uses of aliases. This is more of a personal preference in regards to readability. MSO prefers his queries this way. The `AS v` after the `FROM` simply means we can type `v.<column>` instead of `ss13poll_vote.<column`. Note that I'm also aliasing `o.text` to `option` so that I don't have to change a bunch of frontend display code on statbus.

Code: Select all
LEFT JOIN ss13poll_option AS o ON (v.optionid = o.id)
LEFT JOIN ss13player AS p ON (v.ckey = p.ckey)
LEFT JOIN ss13poll_question AS q ON (v.pollid = q.id)


More aliases! If you'll recall from the last explainer, ids and ckeys can be used to reference columns on other tables. Here, we're grabbing the poll option column as o, the player table as p, and the poll question table as q.

Code: Select all
  WHERE v.pollid = ?
  AND
    (SELECT SUM(j.delta)
    FROM ss13role_time_log AS j
    WHERE j.job IN ('Living')
    AND j.datetime BETWEEN q.starttime - INTERVAL 30 DAY AND q.starttime
    AND j.ckey = v.ckey) >= 60
    GROUP BY o.text
  ORDER BY votes DESC;


This is the real magic, and the reason this query works much better than the first one. As it turns out, MySQL will let you use another SELECT (a subquery) for the WHERE clause. This lets us create a complicated WHERE clause with more conditions than we'd get normally.

As from before, we're summing the ss13_role_time_log.delta column to get the number of minutes played.

If I wanted to, the IN operator would let me specify a list of jobs to look for. We're only interested in the Living role right now though.

From the previous query, I'm only looking at entries in ss13_role_time_log that were made within 30 days of the poll starting.

Finally, we're using the vote ckey to match against the role_time_log ckey.

All of this outputs the number of minutes played. If that number is greater than or equal to 60, we count the vote!

`GROUP BY o.text` tells MySQL to group everything by the value of the option text, and `ORDER BY votes DESC;` simply arranges the results by the number of votes, in descending order (so the most-voted option is first).
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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby MrStonedOne » Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:31 am #446945

I just wanted to apologize for not catching this error.

It seems (i haven't been able to confirm why the old query is producing incorrect results, just that it is, and that the irv based query is written correctly) to stem from how the tables were merged in the old query (and part of the reason I use subqueries for things like this, as its harder to mess up).

Before filtering went live on Ned's site, I was given a chance to validate the query, and I had only skimmed it, not the kind of review fitting for something as integral to how /tg/ engages with the playerbase.
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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby oranges » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:42 am #447085

Atlanta-Ned wrote:I've got some pretty groundbreaking news to share.

As it turns out, the filter query I came up with wasn't giving the correct results. This, in spite of me going through it line-by-line, in public, after MSO went over it.

Due to some misgivings with the results, I pulled down the raw data and filtered it by hand. It didn't match up with what I was seeing on Statbus' filtered results. Or the unfiltered results. So I reached out to MSO and he sent me a query he uses for the IRV poll filtering. I adapted it to match the current cat people poll, and these results matched the manually filtered results. We're working to determine what went wrong.

The accurate poll results are now live here.

Needless to say, I am deeply sorry that my results were incorrect, and I apologize for contributing to what is already a stressful situation.

Note that this does error does NOT affect any previous polls available on Statbus.

nowhere do you say why the previous filter was incorrectly returning results, why was it incorrect and what part of it was wrong?
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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby DemonFiren » Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:26 am #447106

so whatever the conspiracy does they'll be accused of falsifying data now

revote now or in two years?
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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby Atlanta-Ned » Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:29 pm #447236

oranges wrote:nowhere do you say why the previous filter was incorrectly returning results, why was it incorrect and what part of it was wrong?


I don't know enough about SQL to nail down the issue.

The previously incorrect query:
Code: Select all
SELECT
count(DISTINCT tbl_poll_vote.id) AS votes,
tbl_poll_option.text AS `option`
FROM tbl_poll_vote
LEFT JOIN tbl_poll_option ON tbl_poll_vote.optionid = tbl_poll_option.id
LEFT JOIN tbl_role_time_log ON tbl_poll_vote.ckey = tbl_role_time_log.ckey AND (tbl_role_time_log.job = 'Living')
LEFT JOIN tbl_poll_question ON tbl_poll_vote.pollid = tbl_poll_question.id
WHERE tbl_poll_vote.pollid = 200
AND tbl_role_time_log.datetime BETWEEN tbl_poll_question.starttime - INTERVAL 30 DAY AND tbl_poll_question.starttime
GROUP BY tbl_poll_vote.optionid
HAVING sum(tbl_role_time_log.delta) >= 60
ORDER BY votes DESC;


...when modified to:

Code: Select all
SELECT
sum(tbl_role_time_log.delta) AS minutes,
tbl_poll_option.text AS `option`
FROM tbl_poll_vote
LEFT JOIN tbl_poll_option ON tbl_poll_vote.optionid = tbl_poll_option.id
LEFT JOIN tbl_role_time_log ON tbl_poll_vote.ckey = tbl_role_time_log.ckey AND (tbl_role_time_log.job = 'Living')
LEFT JOIN tbl_poll_question ON tbl_poll_vote.pollid = tbl_poll_question.id
WHERE tbl_poll_vote.pollid = 200
AND tbl_role_time_log.datetime BETWEEN tbl_poll_question.starttime - INTERVAL 30 DAY AND tbl_poll_question.starttime
GROUP BY tbl_poll_vote.id
HAVING sum(tbl_role_time_log.delta) >= 60;


...returns every vote with 60 minutes or more playtime. Ordering this data by hand in a spreadsheet returns the same results currently being returned by the correct, working filter. I suspect the issue lies with this line:

Code: Select all
count(DISTINCT tbl_poll_vote.id) AS votes,


But again, I'm not sure if this is the culprit, or why it would be returning incorrect data.




In other news, the admin activity page is back! https://atlantaned.space/statbus/info.php?admins
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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby MrStonedOne » Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:37 pm #447258

oranges wrote:
Atlanta-Ned wrote:I've got some pretty groundbreaking news to share.

As it turns out, the filter query I came up with wasn't giving the correct results. This, in spite of me going through it line-by-line, in public, after MSO went over it.

Due to some misgivings with the results, I pulled down the raw data and filtered it by hand. It didn't match up with what I was seeing on Statbus' filtered results. Or the unfiltered results. So I reached out to MSO and he sent me a query he uses for the IRV poll filtering. I adapted it to match the current cat people poll, and these results matched the manually filtered results. We're working to determine what went wrong.

The accurate poll results are now live here.

Needless to say, I am deeply sorry that my results were incorrect, and I apologize for contributing to what is already a stressful situation.

Note that this does error does NOT affect any previous polls available on Statbus.

nowhere do you say why the previous filter was incorrectly returning results, why was it incorrect and what part of it was wrong?


Quite simply neither of don't even know for sure.

I was just able to confirm the "having" does nothing, removing it returns the same results, and making the irv style query only filter by people with 1 minute or more of play time also returns the same results as the having query, suggesting it was just filtering for people with living play time entries in the time window.

Next step is to figure out why the having was doing nothing, and what would be needed to make it do the right things (if it can be done). Having queries are one of my few blind spots in sql, I played with them in my TSQL course in college, but never really used them after that. likely why I glossed over it during review.
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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby iamgoofball » Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:46 pm #447268

So if you don't know what was wrong how do you know the filter is right this time? Or that the original was wrong?

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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby MrStonedOne » Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:12 pm #447284

The new one is based off of the IRV filter. The IRV filter was tested by me using test data where I knew what the correct outcome was when I implemented it because we use it for elections and something like that better be well tested.


Also I do know why it wasn't working, at least now I do, after further research.

Code: Select all
SELECT
count(DISTINCT ss13poll_vote.id) AS votes,
ss13poll_option.text
FROM ss13poll_vote
LEFT JOIN ss13poll_option ON (ss13poll_vote.optionid = ss13poll_option.id)
**LEFT JOIN ss13role_time_log ON ss13poll_vote.ckey = ss13role_time_log.ckey AND (ss13role_time_log.job = 'Living')**
LEFT JOIN ss13poll_question ON (ss13poll_vote.pollid = ss13poll_question.id)
WHERE ss13poll_vote.pollid = 200
AND ss13role_time_log.datetime BETWEEN ss13poll_question.starttime - INTERVAL 30 DAY AND ss13poll_question.starttime
**GROUP BY ss13poll_vote.optionid**
**HAVING sum(ss13role_time_log.delta) >= 60;**


The three key lines are marked with ** around them.

Code: Select all
LEFT JOIN ss13role_time_log ON ss13poll_vote.ckey = ss13role_time_log.ckey AND (ss13role_time_log.job = 'Living')

This part joins in the play time table, linking the entries up by ckey. (it also filters out entries related to jobs other than 'Living')

Code: Select all
HAVING sum(ss13role_time_log.delta) >= 60;

Having handles filtering out groups that do not have 60 minutes of combined playtime.

So what makes a group?

Code: Select all
GROUP BY ss13poll_vote.optionid

This line groups all rows by rows with the same optionid (the optionid is the id given to each option you can pick in a given poll, so ie it groups all votes by what they voted for) This allows us to count the yes votes and no votes mysql side, rather then shit out every vote over the wire to ned's server we only send 2 rows, the yes row and the no row.

So lets keep that in mind while we return to that having line:

Code: Select all
HAVING sum(ss13role_time_log.delta) >= 60;

Remember, it's applied after the group by, so at this point there are 2 groups, the yes group, and the no group. it goes to the yes group, adds up all of their role time, and if its over 60, keeps the yes group, then it does the same to the no group.

Visualization:
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This is not what was intended, and why a sub-query was needed instead, so it could filter votes by the criteria, rather then filter the results by the criteria.
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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby GuyonBroadway » Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:55 pm #447300

MrStonedOne wrote:
So lets keep that in mind while we return to that having line:

Code: Select all
HAVING sum(ss13role_time_log.delta) >= 60;

Remember, it's applied after the group by, so at this point there are 2 groups, the yes group, and the no group. it goes to the yes group, adds up all of their role time, and if its over 60, keeps the yes group, then it does the same to the no group.


So if I understand correctly, it was keeping all the votes of yes or no if the total playtime of all the yes or no votes was >= 60?

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Postby Grazyn » Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:08 pm #447310

I have a question. The poll filtered players according to "1 hour of play time (time spent in living job role) in the 30 days leading up to the vote". I assume this was to prevent people from logging in after the vote had already started to go afk for an hour and get their vote validated.

Now oranges is going to make a new almost identical poll with a better wording. Will the filter count those people who only logged in after the first vote, but before the start of the new vote? Or will it still count time played in the month leading up to the first vote?

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Postby MrStonedOne » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:17 pm #447344

The second poll will be IRV, which already has a system for custom selecting filter parameters (we base headmin election filtering on the date the headmin elections thread is posted to global announcements), so we plan to base it on the time of the first poll being started, yes.
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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby MrStonedOne » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:23 pm #447347

GuyonBroadway wrote:
MrStonedOne wrote:
So lets keep that in mind while we return to that having line:

Code: Select all
HAVING sum(ss13role_time_log.delta) >= 60;

Remember, it's applied after the group by, so at this point there are 2 groups, the yes group, and the no group. it goes to the yes group, adds up all of their role time, and if its over 60, keeps the yes group, then it does the same to the no group.


So if I understand correctly, it was keeping all the votes of yes or no if the total playtime of all the yes or no votes was >= 60?


Correct.

The reason the vote even changed at all was the WHERE clause (that happens before grouping) that filtered entries without a linked job role table entry within the 30 day time window, so it basically filtered out people without at least 1 minute of living role time.
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Postby iamgoofball » Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:46 pm #447387

MrStonedOne wrote:The second poll will be IRV, which already has a system for custom selecting filter parameters (we base headmin election filtering on the date the headmin elections thread is posted to global announcements), so we plan to base it on the time of the first poll being started, yes.

It's still going to be yes/no, right?

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Postby The_Dreamweaver » Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:42 am #447724

I think it definitely important to make the most of every experience and so at least we can say this was a major learning experience both from a technical and social standpoint. It also goes to show that there's a lot of great people willing to spend so much of their free time on a "2d atmos sim" in order to give others a posittive experience. It's things like this that make this place so amazing in the end, so thanks again for everyone who contributes in any way to this place. It does make a difference.
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Postby Oldman Robustin » Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:28 am #447952

Just came to say that having Win/Loss data for modes moves from monthly data to its own "All Time" page completely defeats the point of tracking win-rates.

How much Revs, Cultists, Nukeops, etc. won from 2012-2016 is largely irrelevant. I used that data to understand the state of the game and how certain changes affected win rates, now all I can do is scroll through the round list and get a very rough idea.

P.S. whenever someone gets around to posting the mode ranking poll, can it PLEASE be done using linear weighting?
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Postby Atlanta-Ned » Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:48 pm #448270

Oldman Robustin wrote:[Long-winded feature request]


https://atlantaned.space/statbus/info.php?winloss
Go by the Current Range displayed in pink. There's an annoying timezone issue with the javascript slider.
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Postby Oldman Robustin » Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:13 pm #448312

That customized date range is extremely helpful, thank you.
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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby Atlanta-Ned » Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:57 pm #448342

I'm working on YET ANOTHER version of Statbus that I call Slimbus!
You can preview it at: https://sb.atlantaned.space

The primary features of Slimbus are:
- Really damn simple URLs. A round is at https://sb.atlantaned.space/rounds/95887 , a single stat for a round is at https://sb.atlantaned.space/rounds/95887/handcuffs and so on. I'm so excited for pretty URLs and they were SUCH A GODDAMN PAIN IN THE ASS TO SET UP HOLY SHIT YOU DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND
- A tighter codebase, thanks to the Pretty URLs

So far only Rounds, their stats, and deaths are working, but I'll be adding more to it as I go along.
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Postby Atlanta-Ned » Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:21 am #448448

God this is SO MUCH MORE ENJOYABLE TO WORK ON I AM SO EXCITED

The me page is back and now lives at https://sb.atlantaned.space/me

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Postby Floiven » Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:56 am #448451

Looks and reads great, I love well presented statistics like these. Thanks for your hard work.

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Postby Atlanta-Ned » Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:50 pm #448667

There's now a listing for admin rank changes (ranks being added/remove, rank permissions being changed, admins being promoted/demoted) here: https://sb.atlantaned.space/info/adminlogs

EDIT: Code is available here: https://github.com/nfreader/slimbus
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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby Atlanta-Ned » Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:27 pm #450869

I've updated the map again:
- Deaths were displaying one tile NE of where they actually took place. I corrected that. Fuckin' coordinate logic man...
- Explosions are now displaying as well. I tweaked them from the previous statbus, so that the epicenters are now correctly displayed centered on the tile where they occurred, and effect radiuses now extend to the furthest edge of the tile at the end of their range.

https://sb.atlantaned.space/rounds/96331/map




A caveat: "Kill" tracking in deaths isn't accurate. Take this death for example, wherein I shot this guy:
Code: Select all
Atlanta-ned/(Sloan Cox) has shot Timothytea/(Timothy Teakettle) with [10mm bullet] (NEWHP: -21.2)
Atlanta-ned/(Sloan Cox) has fired at Timothytea/(Timothy Teakettle) with [10mm bullet] from Engineering Foyer (NEWHP: -22.1)
Atlanta-ned/(Sloan Cox) has shot Timothytea/(Timothy Teakettle) with [10mm bullet] (NEWHP: -52.1)
Atlanta-ned/(Sloan Cox) has fired at Timothytea/(Timothy Teakettle) with [10mm bullet] from Engineering Foyer (NEWHP: -52.1)
Atlanta-ned/(Sloan Cox) has shot Timothytea/(Timothy Teakettle) with [10mm bullet] (NEWHP: -82.1)
Atlanta-ned/(Sloan Cox) has fired at Timothytea/(Timothy Teakettle) with [10mm bullet] from Engineering Foyer (NEWHP: -82.1)
Atlanta-ned/(Sloan Cox) has shot Timothytea/(Timothy Teakettle) with [10mm bullet] (NEWHP: -112.1)
Atlanta-ned/(Sloan Cox) has fired at Timothytea/(Timothy Teakettle) with [10mm bullet] from Engineering Foyer (NEWHP: -112.1)
Atlanta-ned/(Sloan Cox) has shot Timothytea/(Timothy Teakettle) with [10mm bullet] (NEWHP: -142.1)
Atlanta-ned/(Sloan Cox) has fired at Timothytea/(Timothy Teakettle) with [10mm bullet] from Engineering Foyer (NEWHP: -142.1)
Atlanta-ned/(Sloan Cox) has shot Timothytea/(Timothy Teakettle) with [10mm bullet] (NEWHP: -173)


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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby Atlanta-Ned » Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:25 pm #453913

At some point I'm going to move statbus to a new server, so expect some downtime. Dunno when, dunno for how long. Don't freak out if it's suddenly down for a bit.
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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby Atlanta-Ned » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:37 pm #455036

Atlanta-Ned wrote:At some point I'm going to move statbus to a new server, so expect some downtime. Dunno when, dunno for how long. Don't freak out if it's suddenly down for a bit.


I'll probably do this this weekend, during tg's maintenance window.



In other news, I just pushed a huge update to !NEW! Statbus that brings back some log parsing. Check it out: https://sb.atlantaned.space/rounds/97170/logs
There's still a lot of work to do on parsing, but it's a step in the right direction. The code behind it is MUCH more straightforward than the previous iteration. If you like regular expressions (and see anything that can be done better), check out the code: https://github.com/nfreader/slimbus/blo ... r.php#L170
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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby Atlanta-Ned » Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:49 pm #455265

Atlanta-Ned wrote:
Atlanta-Ned wrote:At some point I'm going to move statbus to a new server, so expect some downtime. Dunno when, dunno for how long. Don't freak out if it's suddenly down for a bit.


I'll probably do this this weekend, during tg's maintenance window.


I did this, everything should be working now.
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Postby Atlanta-Ned » Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:18 pm #455505

Even though the library is/was/will always be a mistake, I have restored it: https://sb.atlantaned.space/library
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Postby Atlanta-Ned » Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:15 am #455794

Server population graph is back. https://sb.atlantaned.space/info/population
Avg # of players, and admins, per server, per hour, going back for the last two years.

Note that this data is cached locally for 24 hours to avoid hammering the database, so you won't always see the most up-to-date information.
If you hit that page and don't see a blue banner at the top, congrats, you reset the cache!
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Postby Atlanta-Ned » Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:45 pm #457163

I just finished and pushed an overhaul for stat parsing and display. The new system is leaner, meaner, and probably still needs a ton of work so if you find errors feel free to @ me on discord, post here or open an issue on the github project: https://github.com/nfreader/slimbus/
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Postby Atlanta-Ned » Sat Dec 01, 2018 7:38 pm #458345

Pushed some updates:
https://sb.atlantaned.space/me now shows your last words
https://sb.atlantaned.space/rounds/97911/testmerged_prs stat was updated to show more information, and now that data is reflected on statbus. This also comes with an overhaul to how stats with different versions are shown as well, which will give us more flexibility going forward.
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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby Atlanta-Ned » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:05 pm #461385

You can now find rounds with newscaster stories at: https://sb.atlantaned.space/stats/newsc ... ies/rounds (and other stats by changing 'newscaster_stories' to something else ^_^
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Atlanta-Ned wrote:Even though the library is/was/will always be a mistake, I have restored it: https://sb.atlantaned.space/library

It's missing the search bar now, it seems.

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Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Atlanta-Ned wrote:Even though the library is/was/will always be a mistake, I have restored it: https://sb.atlantaned.space/library

It's missing the search bar now, it seems.


I'll see about restoring that. I've never been satisfied with how search was implemented.
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Re: Statbus II: Statnarok

Postby Atlanta-Ned » Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:48 pm #462829

I made a goofy toy: https://sb.atlantaned.space/names
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Atlanta-Ned wrote:I made a goofy toy: https://sb.atlantaned.space/names
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