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on megafauna and other potential tc trades

Unread postby Deitus » Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:36 am #416153

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i am fully aware that there is an admin precedent about megafauna spawning and a more or less zero tolerance policy on it, but my question is this:
are traitors or other antags able to trade for megafauna spawns IF:
1) the mobs are spawned on lavaland
2) the mobs are spawned randomly (i.e. they still must be "hunted down")
3) the mobs will not be brought back to the station

from what i understand the main problem with the megafauna before were the mayhem they caused on the station, so would it be allowed if they are spawned on lavaland, stay on lavaland, and are fought on lavaland?

furthermore:
can tc trades be done for songs/audio/midis?

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Re: on megafauna and other potential tc trades

Unread postby Ayy Lemoh » Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:48 am #416158

Deitus wrote:from what i understand the main problem with the megafauna before were the mayhem they caused on the station, so would it be allowed if they are spawned on lavaland, stay on lavaland, and are fought on lavaland?

furthermore:
can tc trades be done for songs/audio/midis?

I've only spawned a megafauna before roundend once. It was for someone who killed all the megafauna. I had to ask Kor permission first, though, since he has the final say on all megafauna matters, imo. Even then, it was basically a harder bubblegum with no loot except my own choice a hat. There was also two other npcs which I made as memes to serve as shitty bosses or just really annoying but not megafauna.

tl;dr fuck no im not giving you megafauna just because you got 20 tc wtf now maybe if it was all the tc on the server at the time however good luck lmao

Also, you can TC trade for music, but it's even harder than normal trades in my opinion because some admins may play a shitty remix of death trap piano music ear rape while some won't.

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Re: on megafauna and other potential tc trades

Unread postby SpaceInaba » Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:57 am #416164

if the tc trade involves megafauna in any way shape or form the ticket is getting rejected
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Re: on megafauna and other potential tc trades

Unread postby Darkgenerallord » Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:59 am #416168

I'll do it but only if you agree to fist fight it

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Re: on megafauna and other potential tc trades

Unread postby Deitus » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:17 am #416179

while i heavily disagree with the opinion i will accept it
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Re: on megafauna and other potential tc trades

Unread postby Rustledjimm » Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:32 am #416227

Yeah I see no reason for tc trades for megafauna to ever be accepted.



You can attempt to tc trade for songs/audio/midis but you must always remember that TC trades are a priveledge and at discretion of online admins. People don't have a right to them so try not to get salty if an admin says "no". Also while we're at it do not ping admins in discord because you want a TC trade. It counts as abusing pings as laid out in our discord server rules.

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Re: on megafauna and other potential tc trades

Unread postby CitrusGender » Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:47 am #416229

I actually remember this TC trade being brought to me in adminbus. The actual problem with the TC trade was less that it could hurt people and more that it circumvented the game as a whole. Admins aren't there to deliver things that are found in the game naturally. I suppose I don't see a problem with just asking the admin to spawn megafauna in a random location (even as a non-antag) if it hasn't already been spawned in lavaland? I'm unsure if that's a deliberate coding feature though so I'll say that's probably not okay until proven otherwise.
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Re: on megafauna and other potential tc trades

Unread postby Stickymayhem » Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:06 am #416242

If you, without any prior admin assistance, on a regular traitor round, accumulate 100TCs legitimately as a traitor by killing or negotiating with other traitors, while I'm online, I'll do it.

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Re: on megafauna and other potential tc trades

Unread postby Cobby » Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:23 am #416568

CitrusGender wrote:I actually remember this TC trade being brought to me in adminbus. The actual problem with the TC trade was less that it could hurt people and more that it circumvented the game as a whole. Admins aren't there to deliver things that are found in the game naturally. I suppose I don't see a problem with just asking the admin to spawn megafauna in a random location (even as a non-antag) if it hasn't already been spawned in lavaland? I'm unsure if that's a deliberate coding feature though so I'll say that's probably not okay until proven otherwise.


It sounds like they still have to fight the thing though?

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Re: on megafauna and other potential tc trades

Unread postby bandit » Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:46 pm #416807

if you find my PayPal account that I haven't posted and PayPal me $1,000,000 then once the paypal clears I will let you be a megafauna*

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Re: on megafauna and other potential tc trades

Unread postby EagleWiz » Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:35 pm #416821

I'm as annoyed by unfun or suspiciously generous TC trades as anyone, but I don't see how someone trading all their TC to spawn something on lavalands that would spawn itself half the rounds anyway is an issue unless by lavalands you mean on the base or shuttle

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Re: on megafauna and other potential tc trades

Unread postby CitrusGender » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:04 pm #418179

Cobby wrote:
CitrusGender wrote:I actually remember this TC trade being brought to me in adminbus. The actual problem with the TC trade was less that it could hurt people and more that it circumvented the game as a whole. Admins aren't there to deliver things that are found in the game naturally. I suppose I don't see a problem with just asking the admin to spawn megafauna in a random location (even as a non-antag) if it hasn't already been spawned in lavaland? I'm unsure if that's a deliberate coding feature though so I'll say that's probably not okay until proven otherwise.


It sounds like they still have to fight the thing though?

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they should but I guess they don't have to

I guess I don't see any problem with TC trading to manipulate spawn rates in random locations (since one is just dumb luck.)
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