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Karma and special races

Unread postby starmute » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:40 am #424519

Here's a suggestion (just an idea, please no bully over this). I've noticed that some players are better at role playing or creating fun events. On another SS13 port (colonial marines) special roles are given (and taken away) based on past performance and the ability to follow special rules. For example I believe that drones were simply too hard for some people to grasp, however some other people could play them correctly.

So to allow a player to play a drone:
Allow players to write that they understand the rules of a drone and what drones are supposed to do ect, get it approved by a admin after the player has played for a long period of time with no notes. As a side benefit it would be the "carrot" for players to act nicely in game (whereas bans have always been the stick)


Lots of things could be added like this, and we could possibly expand our side antagonists, joke roles and fun roles a little more if we have people who understand the rules more seriously. We can test gamemodes with players who apply to do so on the forums and/or discord.

Just a thought.



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Re: Karma and special races

Unread postby Cobby » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:25 pm #424525

Getting roles based on how nice you are to the admins is probably a bit too much. As much as I hate it I’d rather blacklist people than whitelist
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Re: Karma and special races

Unread postby DemonFiren » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:41 pm #424527

>karma
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Re: Karma and special races

Unread postby PKPenguin321 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:59 pm #424530

Pretty sure making admins peer review a hundred essays a day just so you can play drone isn't how karma works on other servers
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Re: Karma and special races

Unread postby NanookoftheNorth » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:48 pm #424560

I think that it's an interesting idea to restrict who plays drones to players who have a long play record with no major offenses. I think making one in favor of the admins is asking for people to go power hungry.
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Re: Karma and special races

Unread postby John_Oxford » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:30 pm #424576

PKPenguin321 wrote:Pretty sure making admins peer review a hundred essays a day just so you can play drone isn't how karma works on other servers


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Re: Karma and special races

Unread postby CosmicScientist » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:03 pm #424589

It might be a step towards arr pee and admin pestering could be reduced through playtime gating and privilege systems (starting with none and then earning the ability to request roles). Though I don't know if this would make the drone rules work.


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Re: Karma and special races

Unread postby Alipheese » Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:19 pm #424601

So an application process? Thats not tg. Dumb idea.
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Re: Karma and special races

Unread postby Saegrimr » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:34 pm #424618

It's almost like my method of extremely heavy handed bans for shitter drones was working.
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Re: Karma and special races

Unread postby mysteryman sideburns » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:35 pm #424629

karma was a gay idea in 2010 and its a gay idea now

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Re: Karma and special races

Unread postby mysteryman sideburns » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:36 pm #424630

that being said add karma back in and have it do nothing except let me look at my -80 karma score

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Re: Karma and special races

Unread postby DemonFiren » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:54 pm #424633

Saegrimr wrote:It's almost like my method of extremely heavy handed bans for shitter drones was working.

why didn't you choose an heir before fucking off
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Re: Karma and special races

Unread postby CosmicScientist » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:40 pm #424650

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why didn't you choose an heir before fucking off

We'd have a battle of Hastings over their pepsi kingdom.
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Re: Karma and special races

Unread postby starmute » Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:57 am #424662

PKPenguin321 wrote:Pretty sure making admins peer review a hundred essays a day just so you can play drone isn't how karma works on other servers


To be fair I was half asleep when I made this. I just meant that a player should be whitelisted and vouched for by multiple admins before getting the fun stuff. Dunno though.

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Re: Karma and special races

Unread postby BeeSting12 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:18 am #424665

as an admin i can barely read the two paragraph OP let alone a bunch of essays begging to be allowd to play some role
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Unread postby Doctor Pork » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:53 am #424681

Saegrimr wrote:It's almost like my method of extremely heavy handed bans for shitter drones was working.

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Re: Karma and special races

Unread postby Dr_bee » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:50 am #424687

The fact all methods of drone production besides the derelict was turned off should tell if a role requires admins to pay attention to it they would rather it not exist.

I am still a tad salty about drone production being turned off.

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Re: Karma and special races

Unread postby Saegrimr » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:24 am #424691

Honestly I am too, was nice to drone around if you got dunked early in the round and spaced. Go off and build a fucking smoking lounge in maint and watch the assistants slowly congregate.
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Re: Karma and special races

Unread postby starmute » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:53 am #424694

BeeSting12 wrote:as an admin i can barely read the two paragraph OP let alone a bunch of essays begging to be allowd to play some role


To be fair, we both know being a admin is slightly masochistic. With great power comes..... ......everyone expecting you to be some sort of super human. Then again, this is the future you chose.

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Re: Karma and special races

Unread postby EagleWiz » Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:34 am #424781

Drones were great, and removing them because a few idiots cant grasp obvious rules was stupid. Gate them behind time played like AI or Borg, apply a month ban immediately on suspicious drone behavior, and a year drone-ban or something if they do it again, you'd think that would weed out the people being bad drones pretty quickly.

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Re: Karma and special races

Unread postby DemonFiren » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:24 am #424841

EagleWiz wrote:Drones were great, and removing them because a few idiots cant grasp obvious rules was stupid. Gate them behind time played like AI or Borg, apply a month ban immediately on suspicious drone behavior, and a year drone-ban or something if they do it again, you'd think that would weed out the people being bad drones pretty quickly.

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Re: Karma and special races

Unread postby CosmicScientist » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:27 pm #424937

There was no drone logging and the drone laws were peculiar.
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Re: Karma and special races

Unread postby Ayy Lemoh » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:12 am #424962

CosmicScientist wrote:There was no drone logging and the drone laws were peculiar.

yeah, if i was admin and someone said 'hey guys drones are logged now for EVERYTHING' then I would spawn drones. Until then, I am never spawning a fucking drone unless it's about free drones.

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Re: Karma and special races

Unread postby Shadowflame909 » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:49 am #424964

Honestly there were 89 dislikes on that pr, if I remember correctly and drones only got added because of a 1-2 headmin split. it was dumb

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Re: Karma and special races

Unread postby CosmicScientist » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:40 am #425174

Unfortunately, the original drone addition PR is only visible through commit history, rather than PR history. It was done by Xhuis if that jogs any memory.

I'd be surprised if they were added with 89 dislikes. Or were you talking about the removal PR? Because whilst your number of downboats is greatly exaggerated, I've gotten the most in recorded PR history on the repo for a single PR. The headmin split on removal was a timeout on getting responses.
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Re: Karma and special races

Unread postby Anonmare » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:37 pm #425236

Drone laws were literally an IC way of saying:- Don't use your second life to fuck over someone else. I thought we were pretty clear that we would not accept any attempt to rulelawyer?

We could always make drones more like /vg/'s MoMMIs (Has hands but no inventory space besides their inbuilt on, remote interaction, need to recharge at chargers, can talk on binary but still obligated to not interfere, vulnerable to flashes etc.) Not a fan of being able to be emagged or them needing brains, though, that is what we have posibrains for.
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Re: Karma and special races

Unread postby Dr_bee » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:24 pm #425283

Anonmare wrote:Drone laws were literally an IC way of saying:- Don't use your second life to fuck over someone else. I thought we were pretty clear that we would not accept any attempt to rulelawyer?

We could always make drones more like /vg/'s MoMMIs (Has hands but no inventory space besides their inbuilt on, remote interaction, need to recharge at chargers, can talk on binary but still obligated to not interfere, vulnerable to flashes etc.) Not a fan of being able to be emagged or them needing brains, though, that is what we have posibrains for.


Pacifism might be a good thing to add to drones as well. as it did not exist when drones were added.


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