(Ivanissaccs)adfdxd , permaban for metacom

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(Ivanissaccs)adfdxd , permaban for metacom

Unread postby adfdxd » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:03 pm #438468

Byond account and character name: adfdxd, random
Banning admin: Ivanissaccs
Ban type (What are you banned from?): bagil, sybil, terry
Ban reason and length: metacom, perma
Time ban was placed (including time zone): CET 14.31 (or so)
Server you were playing when banned (Sybil or Bagil): terry
Your side of the story:
I wanted to play as warden, I arrested someone, so far all good I got killed and was found by sec officer I don't see how I could Metacom sec officer saw where I die and where I was attacked I was going for my items and I saw dead sec officer I got my items back and went to check up on sec officer and meet hos and sec officer there and then I got banned without a warning or a questioning. I know rakusenpai from OOC we like to restart rounds ;)
Why you think you should be unbanned: I did not Metacom
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Re: Ivanissaccs, permaban for metacom

Unread postby Arianya » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:14 pm #438472

Please follow the format listed here:

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Re: (Ivanissaccs)adfdxd , permaban for metacom

Unread postby Arianya » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:23 pm #438478

Thanks for changing the format. However I also have to lock this until the round is over since its a appeal about an ongoing round.
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Re: (Ivanissaccs)adfdxd , permaban for metacom

Unread postby Arianya » Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:55 pm #438494

Thanks for your patience, the round is over.
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Re: (Ivanissaccs)adfdxd , permaban for metacom

Unread postby Ivan Issaccs » Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:32 pm #438505

Alright.
Lets break this down as much as we can.

This first came to my attention when we became aware of you meta-grudging another player. An action you told they admins "No" when asked to stop.
This got you watch listed which made it really obvious that you were in contact OOC.
Logging in at the same moment, at the same time.

Spoiler:
ADMIN LOG: Notice: rakusenpai/(RakuSenpai) has been on the watchlist since 2018-08-31 13:15:44 and has just connected - Reason: Watch for metafriending with Adfdxd. Possible metacomms, too.
ADMIN LOG: Notice: adfdxd/(Adfdxd) has been on the watchlist since 2018-08-31 13:15:57 and has just connected - Reason: Watch for metafriending with RakuSenpai. Possible metacomms, too.


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[2018-09-09 11:50:36.871] ACCESS: Login: RakuSenpai from 1******************** || BYOND v512.1446
[2018-09-09 11:51:37.896] ACCESS: Login: Adfdxd from 8***************** || BYOND v512.1445

[2018-09-09 11:53:12.889] RakuSenpai \ Mrots Dnasedurad \ Security Officer \ NONE \ LATEJOIN
[2018-09-09 11:51:47.788] Adfdxd \ Pedro Clewett \ Warden \ NONE \ LATEJOIN


Every time I log in to Terry, I have to deal with one or the other of you to attempting to fuck with Gnull. Whether its taking ghost roles, singling them out IC or using OOC means to affect them and taunt them personally. You have also referenced one anothers bannings in OOC when it is only one of you having been banned.

So in the round in question I've performed some tests.
The first was to knock one of you out. The second it took affect the other made a U-Turn and started running in their direction untill such as they woke up.
The second was to make the person you had been griefing a changeling so as it wouldn't be obvious that an admin was directly doing things to you.
True enough, the Changeling killed one of you and the other then stopped what they were doing and came running direct with a stun baton in hand to arrest.
At this point I was ready to apply the perma ban but more evidence had to come spilling out.
While one of you was dead and orbiting the changeling, cloaked with with the chameleon gene the other ran across the station with stun baton in hand and hit him while invisible.

You have used metacomms to the point that me and others on the admin team have been trying to evidence it for nearly two weeks.
You have also used it to metagrudge a player across a round after being warned and banned for it.
You are a toxic influence on the server, you have lied in this appeal and show no remorse about doing such and as such I am denying this appeal, I'd invite headmins to pass their oppinion but I very much doubt it will differ from my own.

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Re: (Ivanissaccs)adfdxd , permaban for metacom

Unread postby adfdxd » Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:40 pm #438508

YOU DO REALIZE THIS IS AGAINST FUCKING RULES RIGHT?

So in the round in question I've performed some tests.
The first was to knock one of you out. The second it took affect the other made a U-Turn and started running in their direction untill such as they woke up.
The second was to make the person you had been griefing a changeling so as it wouldn't be obvious that an admin was directly doing things to you.
True enough, the Changeling killed one of you and the other then stopped what they were doing and came running direct with a stun baton in hand to arrest.
At this point I was ready to apply the perma ban but more evidence had to come spilling out.
While one of you was dead and orbiting the changeling, cloaked with with the chameleon gene the other ran across the station with stun baton in hand and hit him while invisible.
ALSO OOC FRIENDS ARE ALLOWED WE CAN TALK BEFORE AND AFTER ROUNDS
SO WHEN DID I METAGRUGE SOMEONE? GNULL INSULTED ME FIRST EVERY TIME, NO ADMIN RESPONSE
ALL ROUNDS I TRIED TO RESTART WHERE ABOVE 8H
ok so unfair is looking at someone for 2 weeks "Dajcie mi człowieka, a paragraf się znajdzie" meaning Give me a man, and the paragraph will be found (look at someone and you will have a reason to ban) i never did anything to gnull as a drone (i know what you mean it was not me not my idea)
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Re: (Ivanissaccs)adfdxd , permaban for metacom

Unread postby Cobby » Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:46 pm #438510

Just to clarify, the actions he mentioned show that you’ve been talking DURING the round about INGAME stuff (not okay), not just before/after (okay).
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Re: (Ivanissaccs)adfdxd , permaban for metacom

Unread postby adfdxd » Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:51 pm #438513

now i think i know what you mean he was asleep near robocist right ? look at the chat someone asked me to go to medbay i did not go to him

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Re: (Ivanissaccs)adfdxd , permaban for metacom

Unread postby kevinz000 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:52 pm #438516

I'm on phone but I can confirm their connection with rakusenpai including giving all access and free reign to them nearly wordlessly

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Re: (Ivanissaccs)adfdxd , permaban for metacom

Unread postby Rustledjimm » Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:57 pm #438519

There's no rule saying admins cannot perform sting operations if they suspect metacomms.
So uhh, I'm an admin. Please leave feedback!

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Re: (Ivanissaccs)adfdxd , permaban for metacom

Unread postby adfdxd » Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:59 pm #438522

admins can but trial admins cannot

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Re: (Ivanissaccs)adfdxd , permaban for metacom

Unread postby Cobby » Sun Sep 09, 2018 4:01 pm #438524

I think you’re thinking of a different community, trialmins have equal reign here
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Re: (Ivanissaccs)adfdxd , permaban for metacom

Unread postby adfdxd » Sun Sep 09, 2018 4:13 pm #438527

also i belive every time i asked raku for more acces or allacces

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Re: (Ivanissaccs)adfdxd , permaban for metacom

Unread postby Rustledjimm » Sun Sep 09, 2018 4:50 pm #438541

adfdxd wrote:admins can but trial admins cannot


I'm sorry are you trying to tell me what my admin team can and cannot do?
So uhh, I'm an admin. Please leave feedback!

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Re: (Ivanissaccs)adfdxd , permaban for metacom

Unread postby kevinz000 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 4:58 pm #438547

Maybe admit fault instead of get upset you got caught

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Re: (Ivanissaccs)adfdxd , permaban for metacom

Unread postby somerandomguy » Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:01 pm #438548

adfdxd wrote:YOU DO REALIZE THIS IS AGAINST FUCKING RULES RIGHT?

No it's not.
the RULES wrote:0: Enforcement of these rules is at the discretion of admins.
Admins are fully accountable for any consequences should they invoke this rule. Admins are also allowed to intervene in rounds when it is in the best interest of the playerbase.

If they think it improves the game (and the headmins don't have a problem with it) they can do it.

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adfdxd wrote:also i belive every time i asked raku for more acces or allacces

Most people don't just give random people all access (unless they're just a bad cap/hop), this just proves that you're metafriending/metacomming.
adfdxd wrote:ALSO OOC FRIENDS ARE ALLOWED WE CAN TALK BEFORE AND AFTER ROUNDS

adfdxd wrote:While one of you was dead and orbiting the changeling, cloaked with with the chameleon gene the other ran across the station with stun baton in hand and hit him while invisible.

This was midround. There is no way this could not be midround.
adfdxd wrote:ok so unfair is looking at someone for 2 weeks "Dajcie mi człowieka, a paragraf się znajdzie" meaning Give me a man, and the paragraph will be found

They were looking at you because they saw something that made them think you were metacomming, but they weren't 100% sure. Now they are, and you're banned.

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Re: (Ivanissaccs)adfdxd , permaban for metacom

Unread postby MrStonedOne » Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:40 pm #438571

For the record, and so it can be quoted at a later date:

Trial admins are full admins, have all of the same in game permissions of a full admin, and can do anything a full admin can do.

The only difference between trial admins and full admins is that trial admins have a 60 day review and that a full admin can remove a trialmin's ban without waiting for a headmin to ok it if they think it's grossly out of line with policy. (something that hasn't had to be invoked for years)
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Re: (Ivanissaccs)adfdxd , permaban for metacom

Unread postby adfdxd » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:04 pm #438578

i see i was wrong, I'm sorry my personality is really hard, I was too impulsive and misunderstood the rules and trial admin concept im not trying to tell you what your admin team can or cannot do.

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Re: (Ivanissaccs)adfdxd , permaban for metacom

Unread postby adfdxd » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:13 pm #438580

i guess i should have waited and calm down before my bad

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Re: (Ivanissaccs)adfdxd , permaban for metacom

Unread postby Cobby » Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:15 pm #438599

adfdxd wrote:also i belive every time i asked raku for more acces or allacces


To get back on the subject, it's not the fact that you ask him for access that's bad.

It's the fact that you guys will willingly benefit yourselves based entirely in your OOC relationship.

AKA he ONLY gives you all access EVERY TIME because you two are OOC friends, he wouldn't do this for other players, particularly the one you have been known to metagrudge.

If you're not going to admit to the metacomming despite the damning evidence, or actually contest said damning evidence, there's really no point in trying to appeal in the first place because it's not going to get lifted. Even then it's not a guarantee.

Hope this clarifies our actual gripe.
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Re: (Ivanissaccs)adfdxd , permaban for metacom

Unread postby oranges » Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:40 pm #438625

now this belongs in the salt reserves
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