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Make the new Ash Drake a 'Greater Ash Drake'

Unread postby Arkozo » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:57 am #444253

Due to the ramp up in difficulty of the Ash Drake over it's previous iteration, I'd like to propose that instead of replacing the old Ash Drake moveset altogether, make the new Ash Drake a Greater Ash Drake, whose spawning is triggered when one of the normal Ash Drakes are defeated, either replacing the remaining drakes or literally spawning a new one. I feel as though this would aid in newer players getting used to the old fight before it's made dramatically harder. As far as rewards go, possibly make the previous rarer drops on the normal Ash Drake have a higher chance on the Greater Ash Drake, or rather only grant the Ash Drake Armor for the normal, whereas the Greater would have the rarer drops guaranteed.



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Re: Make the new Ash Drake a 'Greater Ash Drake'

Unread postby Ayy Lemoh » Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:07 am #444266

You only need the drake armor realistically.

So why would you fight the greater ash drake besides 'i have a big dick'

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Re: Make the new Ash Drake a 'Greater Ash Drake'

Unread postby Qbmax32 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:10 pm #444283

Ash drake was made harder in the first place because it was too easy to cheese for good loot
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Re: Make the new Ash Drake a 'Greater Ash Drake'

Unread postby D&B » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:45 pm #444288

These babies really can't get over losing the free armor and end game loot can they
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Re: Make the new Ash Drake a 'Greater Ash Drake'

Unread postby BeeSting12 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:54 pm #444289

D&B wrote:These babies really can't get over losing the free armor and end game loot can they

its techwebs but with miners.

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Re: Make the new Ash Drake a 'Greater Ash Drake'

Unread postby somerandomguy » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:21 pm #444295

BeeSting12 wrote:
D&B wrote:These babies really can't get over losing the free armor and end game loot can they

its techwebs but with miners.

wAHHHHHH MYF REE LOOT

Techwebs was a flat timegate, not making it need more skill (unless you count bombs which are constantly being nerfed anyway)
It was made wh the idea that you shouldn't be able to get everything, making it so either
a)a few people get high-end stuff, everyone else gets nothing, or
b)a bunch of people get mid-tier stuff and high-end is unobtainable

Old rnd was "put in some work and get a bunch of loot" while techwebs is "just wait around and get loot without any work"

Then again, I've had multiple projects ruined by techwebs, so take my opinion with a grain of salt

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Re: Make the new Ash Drake a 'Greater Ash Drake'

Unread postby HydroFloric » Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:12 pm #444298

All these half assing miners crying they can't kill this drake. As of right now after the big nerf to it, the ash drake is pretty simple to kill. If only people actually kept trying to fight it instead of rushing it once, dying and crying that its unkillable.

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Re: Make the new Ash Drake a 'Greater Ash Drake'

Unread postby somerandomguy » Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:19 pm #444301

I haven't played since it was added but yeah it looks a little like heirophant but easier (i.e. you can totally beat it)
see: swoop (teleport), fire blast (x blast but different area), arena (chaser?)
I'm probably forgetting something but the point is it's changed a lot and you just need to git gud and relearn the patterns

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Re: Make the new Ash Drake a 'Greater Ash Drake'

Unread postby confused rock » Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:20 pm #444311

Low iq: waiting for techpoints as scientist
Hogh iq: rushing advanced surgery as roboticist, building a second surgical bed, and doing 3 experimental surgeries at the same time
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Re: Make the new Ash Drake a 'Greater Ash Drake'

Unread postby Cobby » Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:55 pm #444317

> make something harder to obtain
>> someone says it's actually easier

every time

I think they just cut out the BS iframes because constant long periods of invuln surprisingly doesn't make for a very enjoyable fight.
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Re: Make the new Ash Drake a 'Greater Ash Drake'

Unread postby somerandomguy » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:50 pm #444326

Cobby wrote:> make something harder to obtain
>> someone says it's actually easier

every time

I think they just cut out the BS iframes because constant long periods of invuln surprisingly doesn't make for a very enjoyable fight.

what did he mean by this

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Re: Make the new Ash Drake a 'Greater Ash Drake'

Unread postby Karp » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:29 am #444405

Cobby wrote:> make something harder to obtain
>> someone says it's actually easier

every time

I think they just cut out the BS iframes because constant long periods of invuln surprisingly doesn't make for a very enjoyable fight.


It still has iframes with swooping the only difference is that it lands slightly more but attacks way more frequently and has another invulnerability attack it abuses with less iframes

though are all of the people here saying "git gud" without even trying the new drake in the first place though?

I think it's fine now but the most annoying thing about it though was having my kinetic accelerator turn into dust after i underestimated its lava attack and got hit by it once deleting my accelerator and backpack, taking 3 breath attacks over a period of time and melting my accelerator again, and then being hit by lava a final time during a lag burst and dying because my backpack and accelerator melted preventing me from doing anything short of punching the drake to death which somewhat worked
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Re: Make the new Ash Drake a 'Greater Ash Drake'

Unread postby Whoneedspacee » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:10 pm #444714

Karp wrote:
Cobby wrote:> make something harder to obtain
>> someone says it's actually easier

every time

I think they just cut out the BS iframes because constant long periods of invuln surprisingly doesn't make for a very enjoyable fight.


It still has iframes with swooping the only difference is that it lands slightly more but attacks way more frequently and has another invulnerability attack it abuses with less iframes

though are all of the people here saying "git gud" without even trying the new drake in the first place though?

I think it's fine now but the most annoying thing about it though was having my kinetic accelerator turn into dust after i underestimated its lava attack and got hit by it once deleting my accelerator and backpack, taking 3 breath attacks over a period of time and melting my accelerator again, and then being hit by lava a final time during a lag burst and dying because my backpack and accelerator melted preventing me from doing anything short of punching the drake to death which somewhat worked


Guy who re-worked the boss here. The cooldown on swoops actually was non-functional because the megafuana cooldown function didn’t work due to ignoring another variable. The swoops actually have cooldowns now. Also I couldn’t think of some attack during the swoop and originally it was just going to be fast teleporting but someone wanted the swoop animation so I kept it and sped it up.

As for the lava, I really was not prepared for the fire extinguisher nerf and lava buff, so sorry for that. It’s still possible though and I intended for it to be harder than it is currently, but people disliked it, so I think it’s in a fine spot now. The lava now spawns behind you and the fire breath moves slower, too many nerfs to go over in this post.

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Re: Make the new Ash Drake a 'Greater Ash Drake'

Unread postby obscolene » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:53 pm #444727

>3 months later
>all the people who nolife mining: This Shit To Easy Dude Gotta Buff It Again
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Re: Make the new Ash Drake a 'Greater Ash Drake'

Unread postby HydroFloric » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:47 pm #444816

Slightly off topic but that fucking lava/fire buff pr is ass. I really hope it doesn't get merged in its current state.
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