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question for the admins (old and new)

Unread postby Shadowflame909 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:52 am #468828

Is there any scenario where you'll undeadmin, because you were playing in the round, to deal with a major shitter.

Like George Melons tier shitter who's just murderboning everyone as a non antag

Like they've murdered all the antags, and all the non-antags. They don't discriminate and they're going for the Hijack

You're the only admin online, everyone else is sleep because europe times.

Would you? And if not, any scenario where you would?



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Re: question for the admins (old and new)

Unread postby Nervere » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:58 am #468829

Admins aren’t allowed to deal with any situation via tickets in which they were ICly involved, because that sort of involvement creates bias. Even if I was involved in a very, very minor way, I wouldn’t take the ticket, because it’s still involvement and it still leads to bias.

That being said, admins who are playing during the round are allowed to stay adminned so long as they aren’t an important role, such as heads of staff, security, antagonists, and AI. It’s also good form to deadmin if you aren’t these roles, but have through some other means become an important figure in the round. An admin would be allowed to intervene in this scenario if they didn’t have any IC involvement with the rulebreaker, but just to be safe I would call on another admin anyway.

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Re: question for the admins (old and new)

Unread postby Ayy Lemoh » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:05 am #468831

Nervere wrote:just to be safe I would call on another admin anyway.

Shadowflame909 wrote:You're the only admin online, everyone else is sleep because europe times.

Guess it's ban request time at that point

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Re: question for the admins (old and new)

Unread postby wubli » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:19 am #468833

yes i readmin ban them and then make myself a nuke op with 69 tc
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Re: question for the admins (old and new)

Unread postby CreationPro » Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:28 am #468846

Don't think it ever came to this, from experience.
I was the eurotime admin, too, but there was always at least one other person I could get a hold of.

Plus, I usually didn't play if I noticed no one's keeping an eye on the round.
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Re: question for the admins (old and new)

Unread postby MortoSasye » Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:36 am #468848

I wouldn't even be playing prob like i tend to do while adminning to prevent a situation like this without me getting involved.
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Re: question for the admins (old and new)

Unread postby obscolene » Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:51 am #468849

If you're the only admin on, and you're deadminned, if you see someone rampaging through the halls killing everyone I think you would just assume they're an antag and not even think twice about it?? Pretty sure you don't receive ahelps while deadminned, so there wouldn't be really any way of telling until after you died and readminned.
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Re: question for the admins (old and new)

Unread postby Nervere » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:15 am #468851

What obscolene said is true, you don’t get ahelps while deadminned. The only difference in permissions for a deadminned admin and a normal player is that the admin has a button called Readmin to give their powers back.

I think a more likely scenario would be an admin playing a nonessential role while adminned. Lots of people check in with admins to see if their death was valid, in case it was just a random non-antag murderboner or something. In all likelihood, the person would be ahelped and caught pretty quickly, so it wouldn’t be a big deal. I purposefully avoid other players if I’m playing while adminned so if such a situation does arise I’ll be able to aghost out of my character and deal with the situation without the risk of bias.

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Re: question for the admins (old and new)

Unread postby bandit » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:45 am #468857

I've done this but only for stuff like OOC in IC where it's impossible for anyone to be "involved" per se
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Re: question for the admins (old and new)

Unread postby bandit » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:46 am #468858

also why is this in the hut
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Re: question for the admins (old and new)

Unread postby Shadowflame909 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:19 am #468867

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Re: question for the admins (old and new)

Unread postby Cobby » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:36 pm #468885

No if I deadminned on an adminless server i don’t want to admin at the time.

They probably did the round a favor anyways
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Re: question for the admins (old and new)

Unread postby Shadowflame909 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:02 pm #468898

Good point.

In such a scenario George Melons would have the server wrapped around his finger anyways

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Re: question for the admins (old and new)

Unread postby Xhuis » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:27 pm #468937

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Re: question for the admins (old and new)

Unread postby Ayy Lemoh » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:03 pm #468941

Anyone who says "i wouldn't get into this situation at all" is a good lad however what if you were in this situation in the first place?
Is there any scenario where you'll undeadmin, because you were playing in the round, to deal with a major shitter.

What if there's another admin on, you play, he deadmins, then you get involved with said grief rampager? No other admins are online at all either.

The only move I can think of that won't have quite a few people go GET THAT MOTHERFUCKER AND TEAR HIS THROAT OUT would be to basically make a ban request however if you do that then you will be seen as a bad admin because of you letting the griefer grief. Maybe you'll be seen as one who is lawful however you won't be viewed as reliable if you have a crippling weakness of ahaha i disarm spammed the admin now i can erp whoever i want and whenever i want

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Re: question for the admins (old and new)

Unread postby imsxz » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:15 pm #468942

for shit that i wasnt involved in id admin to deal with it if it annoyed me enough (i.e. a blatant OOC in IC meme announecment from captain).

if a nonantag was griefing really hard (assumed nonantag due to it being announced extended or whatever, doesnt really matter) , no admins respond to @everyone in adminbus, no sign of hope, with me somehow directly griefed by the guy, i think there could be an exception made. anything short of a worse case scenario is a danger zone. give a whiny rule lawyer an inch, and they'll drag you for a mile.

(just my opinion im not a headmin or an admin, ive never had to deal with a worst case scenario while i was an admin so i wouldnt know if it would be a reasonable edge case or not)

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Re: question for the admins (old and new)

Unread postby somerandomguy » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:16 pm #468943

Ayy Lemoh wrote:Anyone who says "i wouldn't get into this situation at all" is a good lad however what if you were in this situation in the first place?
Is there any scenario where you'll undeadmin, because you were playing in the round, to deal with a major shitter.

What if there's another admin on, you play, he deadmins, then you get involved with said grief rampager? No other admins are online at all either.

The only move I can think of that won't have quite a few people go GET THAT MOTHERFUCKER AND TEAR HIS THROAT OUT would be to basically make a ban request however if you do that then you will be seen as a bad admin because of you letting the griefer grief. Maybe you'll be seen as one who is lawful however you won't be viewed as reliable if you have a crippling weakness of ahaha i disarm spammed the admin now i can erp whoever i want and whenever i want

@supportmin need an admin on [server]

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Re: question for the admins (old and new)

Unread postby Ayy Lemoh » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:29 pm #468947

somerandomguy wrote:@supportmin need an admin on [server]

You're the only admin online, everyone else is sleep because europe times.

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if you have a hard time imagining all the admins being offline at once then just imagine most of them are offline while some are online however they're unable to actually play the game currently.


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