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zxaber wrote:Though it's more a code issue, perhaps nerfing assistants isn't the smartest idea?
Dax Dupont wrote:go back to bay
iamgoofball wrote:this is not worth your time, stop pushing the point unless you want to add a skills system to go along with this
somerandomguy wrote:Power lasts like 30 minutes, more than enough for a round on bagil
None of the others actually have any consequences
Also as I've said before at this level of rp we'd start banning validhunters too
Denton wrote:IC issue
Stickymayhem wrote:you're right!
BeeSting12 wrote:Standards for heads and security already exist. Other than that, IC issue, call security on them or beat them up and do their job for them.
Yakumo_Chen wrote:if the shuttle is being called explicitly because there's no power despite living, active engineers and a functioning SM, there's a player problem.
somerandomguy wrote:Power lasts like 30 minutes, more than enough for a round on bagil
None of the others actually have any consequences
Also as I've said before at this level of rp we'd start banning validhunters too
PKpenguin321 wrote:player freedom when it comes to your job is one of the pillars that holds server. imagine if we banned atmos techs for building forts when technically they're supposed to just watch the pipes all round.
Yuki wrote:Job ban people who valid hunt instead of doing their job, like Yakumo here.
Yodeler wrote:While I don't think people who just wander off or are incompetent should be punished, I don't like it when someone treats a job as an upgraded assistant role. It doesn't bother me if people powergame or break into places, but if they don't do their job and just use the equipment to tide I think they should be told to stop. Ex. Sec robbing people, chemist making only thermite and meth and tiding, engineer breaking into places roundstart instead of getting power.
Phony_Name wrote:PKpenguin321 wrote:player freedom when it comes to your job is one of the pillars that holds server. imagine if we banned atmos techs for building forts when technically they're supposed to just watch the pipes all round.
Obviously the intent isn't to ban people from doing the things they find fun. The thing is, if you pick a job that has responsibility, you should be held to that responsibility. Jobs are jobs, not item access codes. I cannot tell you how many rounds I see a Roboticist make a Durand, 0 borgs, and sit in it waiting for VALIDS to find all round, or an Engineer use their roundstart access to a RCD and insulateds for advanced tiding and not even wrenching the canisters in. This causes everyone else's round to suck as power goes out or no borgs are around to respawn into.
Yodeler wrote:While I don't think people who just wander off or are incompetent should be punished, I don't like it when someone treats a job as an upgraded assistant role. It doesn't bother me if people powergame or break into places, but if they don't do their job and just use the equipment to tide I think they should be told to stop. Ex. Sec robbing people, chemist making only thermite and meth and tiding, engineer breaking into places roundstart instead of getting power.
Still, my support will always go towards the rightful Lord of Yurop, God-Emperor Donald Trump the Trumpst. Trumpingrad for life. He'll make an indiscriminate number of countries great again.
Grazyn wrote:You can already kill them if they greytide
It's not metagrudging if they greytide every round and you kill them every round
No, this is just an observation from a lot of play, especially as silicons and not getting any help with the engine despite full departments.Not-Dorsidarf wrote:Is this a veiled ban request for the guy who rolled captain 10 times in a row yesterday and didn't secure the disk even during nuke ops?
Yakumo_Chen wrote:The people opposing this I see are missing the key word "consistently", as in, every round. I don't care if an atmos tech fucks off in a round to build a fort somewhere. I do think if the atmos tech is fucking off from their job every single round to greytide until someone kills them, or are blatantly obviously only playing atmos tech for antag rolls to flood plasma, they should just be an Assistant and can just break into atmos on their antag rounds.
tinodrima7020 wrote:>beat people up for not doing their jobs
>get bwoinked, noted, and banned for bad escalation
Very cool
Ayy Lemoh wrote:tinodrima7020 wrote:>beat people up for not doing their jobs
>get bwoinked, noted, and banned for bad escalation
Very cool
and that's assuming you win.
If you lose then you get to be dead for the whole round since you did first blood. Security may also side with him instead of you depending on luck.
tinodrima7020 wrote:>beat people up for not doing their jobs
>get bwoinked, noted, and banned for bad escalation
Very cool
PKPenguin321 wrote:tinodrima7020 wrote:>beat people up for not doing their jobs
>get bwoinked, noted, and banned for bad escalation
Very cool
t. hasn't actually tried it
"beat them up" doesn't mean "wordlessly gank them with no warning, murder them, gib them, and bury the remains" btw
PKPenguin321 wrote:tinodrima7020 wrote:>beat people up for not doing their jobs
>get bwoinked, noted, and banned for bad escalation
Very cool
t. hasn't actually tried it
"beat them up" doesn't mean "wordlessly gank them with no warning, murder them, gib them, and bury the remains" btw
somerandomguy wrote:PKPenguin321 wrote:tinodrima7020 wrote:>beat people up for not doing their jobs
>get bwoinked, noted, and banned for bad escalation
Very cool
t. hasn't actually tried it
"beat them up" doesn't mean "wordlessly gank them with no warning, murder them, gib them, and bury the remains" btw
If you beat them up but don't kill them they have license to kill you, probably for good
somerandomguy wrote:PKPenguin321 wrote:tinodrima7020 wrote:>beat people up for not doing their jobs
>get bwoinked, noted, and banned for bad escalation
Very cool
t. hasn't actually tried it
"beat them up" doesn't mean "wordlessly gank them with no warning, murder them, gib them, and bury the remains" btw
If you beat them up but don't kill them they have license to kill you, probably for good
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