Should nervere rule on wilchens ban

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Re: Should nervere rule on wilchens ban

Postby tinodrima7020 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:07 pm #497988

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Re: Should nervere rule on wilchens ban

Postby Nabski » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:09 pm #497989

An uninterested party would require more effort, but there would be no doubt of neutrality.

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Re: Should nervere rule on wilchens ban

Postby wubli » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:02 pm #497998

Rustledjimm wrote:I reiterate that considering Shezza's past that this should not be about the singular ban but about their entire time at their community. That is how we deal with other players and so it is how shezza should be dealt with instead of being given special treatment by Nervere.

then the ban should be a new one
don't consider this my ruling on this but in general: why would i make a ban that could be lifted stick just because the player isn't good for the community? why wouldn't i, instead, ban them for that reason? using an unrelated ban to remove someone forever is cowardly

the ban will be discussed between the three of us but i beg of you that you think clearly before crying because someone was kept banned or was unbanned. what we will discuss about is the ban being appealed. if someone has to be removed from the community then it will be discussed separately.

and if it works for you: i am not wilchen's fan either. we are nowhere being friends and it is not someone i'm interested in developing a friendship with. if anything, you could say i am biased against them, but i definitely will not let that affect the way i handle this appeal. i'm not here to discuss whether or not they should be removed forever from the community because that's not the ban being appealed kthx

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Re: Should nervere rule on wilchens ban

Postby Rustledjimm » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:53 pm #498005

I understand your points wubli. Though by unbanning someone you are letting them back into the community and that aspect should be discussed, it is not an entirely separate discussion. If it's found the ban is unworthy but the person does not deserve to be let back into the community, or should not be let back for the betterment of the community, then I believe they should receive a ban reflecting so.

Also Shezza having sent Crag messages telling them to commit suicide is a very old, well known fact. Probably from before your time wubli.
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Re: Should nervere rule on wilchens ban

Postby wesoda25 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:37 pm #498007

Wubli part of shezzas ban reason talked about them being a shit member of the community. I don’t wanna get off topic, but you seem to be of the opinion that the only thing that should be discussed is the ERP, and yet:
More, you have an extensive history in this community of shittery, stupidity, creepiness, and I\'m putting it to an end. This is a rule 0 ban. Appeal this ban when you can be a part of our servers without being a pile of radioactive waste.
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Re: Should nervere rule on wilchens ban

Postby wubli » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:29 am #498019

wesoda25 wrote:Wubli part of shezzas ban reason talked about them being a shit member of the community. I don’t wanna get off topic, but you seem to be of the opinion that the only thing that should be discussed is the ERP, and yet:
More, you have an extensive history in this community of shittery, stupidity, creepiness, and I\'m putting it to an end. This is a rule 0 ban. Appeal this ban when you can be a part of our servers without being a pile of radioactive waste.

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Re: Should nervere rule on wilchens ban

Postby Super Aggro Crag » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:42 am #498024

Nabski wrote:An uninterested party would require more effort, but there would be no doubt of neutrality.

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Re: Should nervere rule on wilchens ban

Postby Hulkamania » Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:55 am #498038

I fully trust Nervere to rule on something impartially like this ban. My personal RECOMMENDATION is that he pass it off to one of the other headmins, just to keep things transparent and to ease doubts that people may have about it. However, this is a decision I mostly see as affecting him and his own reputation and I leave it in his hands as to what direction he wants to go with that decision as a whole.

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Re: Should nervere rule on wilchens ban

Postby Nabski » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:22 am #498039

Super Aggro Crag wrote:
Nabski wrote:An uninterested party would require more effort, but there would be no doubt of neutrality.

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Re: Should nervere rule on wilchens ban

Postby bobbahbrown » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:00 am #498075

make an in-game poll to unban shezza its the only fair option power to the proletariat

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Re: Should nervere rule on wilchens ban

Postby Nervere » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:34 pm #498140

I value the trust the community has in me far more than my pride so we’ll rule on this together as headmins.
Sorry for the drama, I was being dumb about this and needed to sleep on it to get a clear head.

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Re: Should nervere rule on wilchens ban

Postby imsxz » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:22 pm #498166

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Re: Should nervere rule on wilchens ban

Postby oranges » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:54 pm #498180

ok, thanks! I appreciate it
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Re: Should nervere rule on wilchens ban

Postby Nilons » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:38 pm #498326

also the irony in the fact that nervere casts doubt on a previous headmins ability to impartially post regarding a person they dislike while simultaneously asserting that he is capable of being impartial about a person he does like (without an actual argument for either side) is rich
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Re: Should nervere rule on wilchens ban

Postby Super Aggro Crag » Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:12 pm #498362

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Re: Should nervere rule on wilchens ban

Postby Nabski » Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:15 pm #498365

Nilons wrote:also the irony in the fact that nervere casts doubt on a previous headmins ability to impartially post regarding a person they dislike while simultaneously asserting that he is capable of being impartial about a person he does like (without an actual argument for either side) is rich

Obviously if you have any feelings towards a person, you shouldn't be involved in it, right?

I feel like he clearly stated this at some point.

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Re: Should nervere rule on wilchens ban

Postby PKPenguin321 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:38 am #498431

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To stay on topic with the thread, nervere should rule on this ban if and only if he intends to deny it immediately and preferably extend it indefinitely
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Re: Should nervere rule on wilchens ban

Postby Hulkamania » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:36 am #498823

This has been resolved, Nervere has agreed to allow the other headmins to weigh in on the appeal in question and I'll be locking this.

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