[Justice12345] Ban appeal

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[Justice12345] Ban appeal

Post by GosparO » #758032

"BYOND account: Firatcinar (Old), GosparO (Current Account)

Ban/note type: [Justice12345] While I do not have full access to the details, I remember the ban involving ban evasion and griefing. I would like to clarify that I was not ban evading with my current account. I genuinely created a new account after losing access to my old one. After noticing that I wasn’t banned, I informed an admin about the situation. They encouraged me to submit this appeal and provided me with some additional information about my ban.

Ban/note duration: Permanent

Ban/note reason: Ban evading and griefing?

Time ban was placed: Not sure

Server you were playing on when banned: Not sure

Round ID in which ban was placed: Not sure

Why are you making this appeal?
() - The ban/note is factually incorrect
() - The ban/note is not against the rules
() - The ban/note needs modification
() - The ban was unjustifiably harsh
(x) - I was permabanned and I want another chance

Why should this appeal be accepted?
I apologize for my past actions involving ban evasion, and I understand why this led to my permanent ban. However, I want to clarify that I did not grief using my old account(Not Firatcinar, if I remember correctly, but it was the one I was playing when I got banned). It's possible that someone else gained access to it or that there was an error, but I have never griefed on any of the servers. Although I did attempt to ban evade after my previous appeal was denied, I acknowledge that this was wrong. I wouldn’t describe myself as a model player, but I truly enjoyed my time on this server. I would greatly appreciate the opportunity to return and demonstrate improved behavior moving forward.

I find it necessary to inform that I have a history of failed ban evasion attempts from Goon stations, which is why I have so many old accounts.(I am no longer banned from Goon)
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Re: [Justice12345] Ban appeal

Post by GosparO » #758035

I would also like to thank Guestify for helping find information about my past ban.
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Justice12354
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Re: [Justice12345] Ban appeal

Post by Justice12354 » #758047

Hello, Firatcinar!

The ban reason for Firatcinar's perma, applied on August 17th 2023, was: "Ban evasion of aseriyah, gdfgdfgderer, lafoil, banat, and pricasd. Multi-ckeying of carzan, cinarfirat, and ulmusf8670."
No griefing is mentioned.

Given that the GosparO ban (issued by Guestify) falls upon my previous evasion ban (on Firatcinar), I will start handling this appeal, though the GosparO ban ultimatelly is under Guestify's umbrella.
GosparO wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 6:08 pm Although I did attempt to ban evade after my previous appeal was denied
On which account(s) did you attempt to evade your ban, following the appeal? Were there any other instances of ban evasion on our servers?

Why did you attempt to evade your ban (again) instead of appealing your over-1-year-old ban?

Why should I believe that now you will stick to our rules and accept punishments issued by admins instead of evading them?
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yttriums wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:13 am borg players shouldn't be able to ahelp. you signed up to play as a piece of equipment. this is like a table ahelping you for wrenching it
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Re: [Justice12345] Ban appeal

Post by GosparO » #758056

"On which account(s) did you attempt to evade your ban, following the appeal? Were there any other instances of ban evasion on our servers?"
If I remember correctly, between Firatcinar and GosparO, there should be one or two more accounts that were auto-banned before I played. Sadly, I don’t remember their names.
There was also that one time where I encountered the same bug where I was unbanned. I tried to DM you about it, but you didn’t answer, so I informed Tengus instead. The next day, I was rebanned.

"Why did you attempt to evade your ban (again)?"
I would like to clarify that, even though you may not believe me, Firatcinar was my first permanently banned account, and it was the first account I attempted to ban evade with.

"Instead of appealing your over-1-year-old ban?"
I understand the confusion, but my ban wasn’t over 1 year old when I started evading it. It was still quite recent. If I remember correctly, I began evading the ban right after my first appeal was rejected. I was unreasonably angry, and that led me down the wrong path.

"Why should I believe that now you will stick to our rules and accept punishments issued by admins instead of evading them?"
Because I love this server, and being without it made me realize how much fun it was. So, I promise I will do my best not to get banned again. Even if I do and fail to appeal, I won’t ban evade and will handle things the proper way. That’s why I informed the admin jus after noticing I was unbanned.
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Re: [Justice12345] Ban appeal

Post by GosparO » #758059

"attempted to ban evade with in TG"
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Re: [Justice12345] Ban appeal

Post by Justice12354 » #758647

Well, I have talked internally with Guestify and they have granted me authority over their ban, so I'll handle the entirety of this appeal.

Given that you've been telling me for over a year that you've never evaded before Firatcinar, I'm inclined to believe you and ponder the possibility of a lapse in judgement from prior admins, which led me to an incorrect connection of accounts. If that is in fact what happened, I deeply apologize for the length and inconvenience of the ban.

Regardless, it's been a while and you have not been an active problem, so, given your perceived openness and honesty, I will be lifting your ban on GosparO.

Thank you for taking the time to fill in the appeal.

Welcome back on-board, crewmate.

Also, I'm Justice12354, not Justice12345
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yttriums wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:13 am borg players shouldn't be able to ahelp. you signed up to play as a piece of equipment. this is like a table ahelping you for wrenching it
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Re: [Justice12354]

Post by GosparO » #758659

Thank you very much!!!!! Though at the moment, I am still banned for some reason.
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Re: [Justice12354]

Post by GosparO » #758662

Ah "If you mark an appeal as resolved, leave it open for 24 hours before locking and moving to the resolved appeals forum for any final questions. Exceptions are made if the thread gets disruptive with peanut posting, or if the appealer is just rehashing the same points over and over etc."
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Re: [Justice12354]

Post by Justice12354 » #758668

GosparO wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 2:08 pm Thank you very much!!!!! Though at the moment, I am still banned for some reason.
What ban reason does the game tell you?
GosparO wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 2:15 pm Ah "If you mark an appeal as resolved, leave it open for 24 hours before locking and moving to the resolved appeals forum for any final questions. Exceptions are made if the thread gets disruptive with peanut posting, or if the appealer is just rehashing the same points over and over etc."
What do you mean with that? You just quoted a forum rule without any context
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yttriums wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:13 am borg players shouldn't be able to ahelp. you signed up to play as a piece of equipment. this is like a table ahelping you for wrenching it
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Re: [Justice12354] Ban appeal

Post by GosparO » #758671

"What ban reason does the game tell you?"
Access denied.

Banned by host: You, or another user of this computer or connection (Cinarfirat) is banned from playing here. The ban reason is: Ban evasion of aseriyah, gdfgdfgderer, lafoil, banat, and pricasd. Multi-ckeying of carzan, firatcinar, and ulmusf8670. This ban (BanID #67089) was applied by Justice12354 on 2023-08-17 19:13:35 during round ID 212761. This is a permanent ban.

"What do you mean with that? You just quoted a forum rule without any context"
I assumed I would be unbanned 24 hours after my ban was resolved.
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Re: [Justice12354] Ban appeal

Post by GosparO » #758674

I have dyslexia, so I may have misunderstood it.
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Re: [Justice12354] Ban appeal

Post by Justice12354 » #758704

GosparO wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:21 pm "What ban reason does the game tell you?"
Access denied.

Banned by host: You, or another user of this computer or connection (Cinarfirat) is banned from playing here. The ban reason is: Ban evasion of aseriyah, gdfgdfgderer, lafoil, banat, and pricasd. Multi-ckeying of carzan, firatcinar, and ulmusf8670. This ban (BanID #67089) was applied by Justice12354 on 2023-08-17 19:13:35 during round ID 212761. This is a permanent ban.

"What do you mean with that? You just quoted a forum rule without any context"
Ugh, I hate unbanning evasion bans because there's always an account that slips by. You should now be able to join the game servers.
GosparO wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:21 pm I assumed I would be unbanned 24 hours after my ban was resolved.
It was, but it was not moved or locked. We don't move the appeals to the Resolved Appeals Subforum until a while later exactly so you can come here and say "Hey, I'm not properly unbanned" just like you did.
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yttriums wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:13 am borg players shouldn't be able to ahelp. you signed up to play as a piece of equipment. this is like a table ahelping you for wrenching it
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Re: [Justice12354] Ban appeal

Post by GosparO » #758713

God dang it!
I got this now:

Access denied.
Banned by host: You, or another user of this computer or connection (Firatcinar) is banned from playing here. The ban reason is: Ban evasion of aseriyah, gdfgdfgderer, lafoil, banat, and pricasd. Multi-ckeying of carzan, cinarfirat, and ulmusf8670. This ban (BanID #67087) was applied by Justice12354 on 2023-08-17 19:01:40 during round ID 212761. This is a permanent ban.
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Re: [Justice12345] Ban appeal

Post by Justice12354 » #758743

Ugh. You should now be able to join.
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yttriums wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:13 am borg players shouldn't be able to ahelp. you signed up to play as a piece of equipment. this is like a table ahelping you for wrenching it
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Re: [Justice12354] Ban appeal

Post by GosparO » #758746

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