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Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby scrubs2009 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:15 pm #259746

So I went on goon to check it out and I just wanted to put up some of my thoughts and see what you guys think.

TG pros/Goon cons
* TG has soooo much more options for traitors and ops. Goon doesn't have mechs, viscerator grenades, syndie borgs, etc. When you become an operative on TG you have a million ways you can go about doing things. On Goon it's either pure stealth or just boring guns.

* Mechs in general

* TG just looks better. It's interface is much better and the spriting is pretty good.

* Goons DWAINE terminals are a bit unwieldy. They can be fun to use if you're doing science or something because they make you feel like swordfish hackerman but having to enter commands just to call the shuttle is stupid

* More antags. TG has 2 cults, traitors, ops, blobs, changelings, abductors, morphs, ash walkers, and devils. Goon doesnt.

* More fleshed out wizards with more spells and abilities

* Ian


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* Pods. Flying around in a tricked out space tractor is fun and fun things are good.

* The Adventure Zone. It's actually pretty fun. Especially for someone on their first time through. It also gives a sense of adventure to the game. We could probably do this by just turning the gateway back on.

* Star stickers. There is nothing more liberating as captain than stripping naked and walking around the station coated from head to toe with gold star stickers glimmering like a fucking sun.

* The critter gauntlet. Combat is fun but if your not an antag it will be A. Consisting of shoving matches with assistants or B. A .5 second brawl with an antag who is 200x better equipped than you.

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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby PKPenguin321 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:19 pm #259748

Gateway is pretty much a no no unfortunately, won't go in depth in this post why. However, does goon have lavaland? I feel like there's potential in making lavaland more of an adventure zone. I could be totally wrong since I don't play goon but yeah.
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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby scrubs2009 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:23 pm #259751

PKPenguin321 wrote:Gateway is pretty much a no no unfortunately, won't go in depth in this post why. However, does goon have lavaland? I feel like there's potential in making lavaland more of an adventure zone. I could be totally wrong since I don't play goon but yeah.



No it doesnt. Goon mining is weird. You basically have a 20×20 square in which you can teleport asteroids to mine.

Where can I find about why portals were removed? I heard it had something to do with power gaming but I want to learn the details.
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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby TribeOfBeavers » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:28 pm #259755

scrubs2009 wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:~



No it doesnt. Goon mining is weird. You basically have a 20×20 square in which you can teleport asteroids to mine.

Where can I find about why portals were removed? I heard it had something to do with power gaming but I want to learn the details.


The gateway wasn't removed, but away missions were disabled on tg, other servers still have them enabled.

You can probably dig up an old PR or forum thread about it if you'd like, but I think the general idea was that the away missions were all basically "solved" in that people would just cheese them and grab the loot as fast as possible every round, and that they were just generally used to powergame instead of making the round any more interesting.

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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby scrubs2009 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:35 pm #259764

TribeOfBeavers wrote:
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No it doesnt. Goon mining is weird. You basically have a 20×20 square in which you can teleport asteroids to mine.

Where can I find about why portals were removed? I heard it had something to do with power gaming but I want to learn the details.


The gateway wasn't removed, but away missions were disabled on tg, other servers still have them enabled.

You can probably dig up an old PR or forum thread about it if you'd like, but I think the general idea was that the away missions were all basically "solved" in that people would just cheese them and grab the loot as fast as possible every round, and that they were just generally used to powergame instead of making the round any more interesting.



Well then it sounds like the solution is just making more and more difficult missions. I will now apply my mediocre mapping skills.
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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby calzilla1 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:37 pm #259765

If you want to port anything port their cargo, its breddy gud
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Postby Incoming » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:41 pm #259767

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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby PKPenguin321 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:41 pm #259768

TribeOfBeavers wrote:
scrubs2009 wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:~



No it doesnt. Goon mining is weird. You basically have a 20×20 square in which you can teleport asteroids to mine.

Where can I find about why portals were removed? I heard it had something to do with power gaming but I want to learn the details.


The gateway wasn't removed, but away missions were disabled on tg, other servers still have them enabled.

You can probably dig up an old PR or forum thread about it if you'd like, but I think the general idea was that the away missions were all basically "solved" in that people would just cheese them and grab the loot as fast as possible every round, and that they were just generally used to powergame instead of making the round any more interesting.

This plus the fact that half the crew would leave the station to get phat loot every round and many of them would just die, meaning station population was effectively permanently halved.
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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby Kel » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:43 pm #259769

calzilla1 wrote:If you want to port anything port their cargo, its breddy gud
Do you know what we shouln't port?
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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby MMMiracles » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:49 pm #259776

scrubs2009 wrote:Well then it sounds like the solution is just making more and more difficult missions. I will now apply my mediocre mapping skills.


Wasting your time, friend. Only way away missions making any comeback if they were kept secret and were remade to be less shitty/a loot-fest. The current selection is either boring, badly-designed, or an unbalanced shit-fest of death and excessive round-breaking loot.

I would personally love to see something akin to adventure z-levels on goon come back to TG, but considering the only reason away missions aren't even gutted yet is due to downstream branches, I doubt that will ever happen.
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Postby Super Aggro Crag » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:09 pm #259791

Can you still fart and poop on goon
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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby Aloraydrel » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:11 pm #259793

MMMiracles wrote:
scrubs2009 wrote:Well then it sounds like the solution is just making more and more difficult missions. I will now apply my mediocre mapping skills.


Wasting your time, friend. Only way away missions making any comeback if they were kept secret and were remade to be less shitty/a loot-fest. The current selection is either boring, badly-designed, or an unbalanced shit-fest of death and excessive round-breaking loot.

I would personally love to see something akin to adventure z-levels on goon come back to TG, but considering the only reason away missions aren't even gutted yet is due to downstream branches, I doubt that will ever happen.


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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby InsaneHyena » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:13 pm #259794

Just like gangs, away missions were fun for some time. Then the meta formed.
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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby scrubs2009 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:29 pm #259804

calzilla1 wrote:If you want to port anything port their cargo, its breddy gud
Do you know what we shouln't port?
Their sprites


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Postby Armhulen » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:58 pm #259816

i've tried SO HARD TO ENJOY GOON

i've given it SO MANY CHANCES

and every time it's just like i'm BORED, i don't care at all what's happening. exploration was fun, though i'll stick to MEK BOYZ GUMSHOE N WOODWORTH
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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

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Armhulen wrote:i've tried SO HARD TO ENJOY GOON

i've given it SO MANY CHANCES

and every time it's just like i'm BORED, i don't care at all what's happening. exploration was fun, though i'll stick to MEK BOYZ GUMSHOE N WOODWORTH


OH SHIT SON. MET A MEK BOY IN THE FORUM. GET HYPE
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Postby AnonymousNow » Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:06 am #259941

Do they have our weird paper-thin racial politics? Like people whose primary gimmick is running around screaming "GAS THE LIGGERS"?
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Postby onleavedontatme » Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:09 am #259944

Lavaland is the only way an adventure zone can really work on /tg/.

Since nothing can be closed source, we need to rely on random generation. As much as I'd love some quality handcrafted dungeons, it just isn't feasible when there will be maps on the wiki before its even merged.

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Postby Cheridan » Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:13 am #259948

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Postby TribeOfBeavers » Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:25 am #259953

AnonymousNow wrote:Do they have our weird paper-thin racial politics? Like people whose primary gimmick is running around screaming "GAS THE LIGGERS"?


They have a rule against that, actually:

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Postby AnonymousNow » Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:49 am #259975

TribeOfBeavers wrote:~


Mm. Feels as though that's a little too far in the other direction. No reference to sexual organs? What if I want to call someone a dick, or a cockgargling thundercunt?
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Postby Ricotez » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:37 am #260033

TribeOfBeavers wrote:
AnonymousNow wrote:Do they have our weird paper-thin racial politics? Like people whose primary gimmick is running around screaming "GAS THE LIGGERS"?


They have a rule against that, actually:

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can we please port this rule? i am so tired of literal 12 year olds signing up as Adolf Shitler
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Ricotez wrote:
TribeOfBeavers wrote:
AnonymousNow wrote:Do they have our weird paper-thin racial politics? Like people whose primary gimmick is running around screaming "GAS THE LIGGERS"?


They have a rule against that, actually:

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can we please port this rule? i am so tired of literal 12 year olds signing up as Adolf Shitler


Would be a very controversial move

I'm personally not a fan of people who think it's funny to spam racial slurs or spawn with names like the one you mentioned, but I'm in the minority
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Qbopper wrote:but I'm in the minority
Get out. That SJW shit ruined goon.
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Super Aggro Crag wrote:Can you still fart and poop on goon


Yeah dude they even have like 5 unique fart styles you can choose from on the character screen.
I prefer the short and sweet booming default fart though, the rest are just wet and gross.
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Postby oranges » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:20 am #260044

Ricotez wrote:can we please port this rule? i am so tired of literal 12 year olds signing up as Adolf Shitler


that's why we have a name policy

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Ricotez wrote:
TribeOfBeavers wrote:
AnonymousNow wrote:Do they have our weird paper-thin racial politics? Like people whose primary gimmick is running around screaming "GAS THE LIGGERS"?


They have a rule against that, actually:

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can we please port this rule? i am so tired of literal 12 year olds signing up as Adolf Shitler

The moment I get bwoinked for saying a slur is the moment I start ddosing the server
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Postby Qbopper » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:41 am #260050

DrPillzRedux wrote:
Qbopper wrote:but I'm in the minority
Get out. That SJW shit ruined goon.


"I dislike people spamming racial slurs" makes me a SJW? Nice bait

EDIT: Before this goes nuclear: no, I will not bwoink you for using racial slurs

no I will not ban you for using racial slurs

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Qbopper wrote:
DrPillzRedux wrote:
Qbopper wrote:but I'm in the minority
Get out. That SJW shit ruined goon.


"I dislike people spamming racial slurs" makes me a SJW? Nice bait


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Postby Alipheese » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:17 am #260071

TheNightingale wrote:
Qbopper wrote:
DrPillzRedux wrote:
Qbopper wrote:but I'm in the minority
Get out. That SJW shit ruined goon.


"I dislike people spamming racial slurs" makes me a SJW? Nice bait


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Postby confused rock » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:10 am #260083

The memes are all incredibly unfunny and dumb but you can actually deal with it in more than one way quit being a pussy
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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby Qbopper » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:18 am #260091

confused rock wrote:The memes are all incredibly unfunny and dumb but you can actually deal with it in more than one way quit being a pussy


Assuming this is directed at me, I'm not sure I follow

If you mean personally getting over it - I find it no more annoying than any other annoying player behaviour so there's no issue

If you mean dealing with it as an admin, we speak to people taking it too far, so there's no issue

"Quit being a pussy" about what, exactly

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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby Anonmare » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:25 am #260096

It's far easier to ignore it tbh. I don't want to have to quibble with every single person who uses slurs, plus I genuinely don't care and would rather use the time and energy to download high quality .ogg rips
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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby AnonymousNow » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:56 am #260100

We greytided a HoP named Adolf Shitler the other week. I rarely greytide, but with a name like that, you're sort of asking for it. Didn't hurt him, just repeatedly knocked him over, stole his stuff, then handed out all-access to the crew.

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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby Dr_bee » Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:00 am #260101

If there is anything I wanted ported over it is Goon's sound system. the ambience of a goonstation round is soothing, being able to hear the screams from across the station, the gunshots of the detective blindly firing his revolver into the clown, the chaplain farting on his bible and exploding.

That and it made using "Loud" weapons have a real disadvantage as the moment you fired a gun or opened an e-sword the entire station would know, it made silent weapons like goon's suppressed .22 pistol actually have a value.

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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby oranges » Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:55 am #260107

the sound engine from goon is about the only thing the open source codebases haven't replicated, which is a shame, because it is rather excellent.

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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby Saegrimr » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:17 am #260113

beerobot wrote:the sound engine from goon is about the only thing the open source codebases haven't replicated, which is a shame, because it is rather excellent.


Hearing a faint echoing fart from tcomms while also hearing distant bloody murder scream from robotics while in engineering is quite nice.
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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby Fiz Bump » Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:24 am #260127

I think space ruins are a good way to incorporate more exploration and adventure-y stuff. There's already a fair number of them and it seems like a fairly easy process to add new ones to the pool, provided they are already mapped.
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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby Ricotez » Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:01 am #260136

Their sound system is what I was most impressed by when we ran Gooncode for a few weeks. There is nothing that destroys immersion as fast as when you're all alone in a dark maintenance tunnel and suddenly hear the faint echo of a distant fart.
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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby Remie Richards » Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:44 pm #260164

There's nothing special about goon's sound system, it just uses the built in byond 3D sounds just like we do.
The difference comes in the fact we've capped it to SURROUND_CAP (7), so 3D sounds never leave a screen, all we have to do is change this value.
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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby XDTM » Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:11 pm #260166

The reason i've stopped playing on Goon in the first place is the unending screams and farts. Screams are nice for ambience, but there was always someone screaming somewhere, meaning that it was less a call for help and more of a very annoying background. Farts are even worse because they just break any pretense of immersion.
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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby Remie Richards » Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:14 pm #260169

XDTM wrote:The reason i've stopped playing on Goon in the first place is the unending screams and farts. Screams are nice for ambience, but there was always someone screaming somewhere, meaning that it was less a call for help and more of a very annoying background. Farts are even worse because they just break any pretense of immersion.


Well we have neither of those, so.
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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby Lumbermancer » Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:18 pm #260170

Remie Richards wrote:Well we have neither of those, so.


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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby imblyings » Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:23 pm #260171

>better waifus

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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby Qbopper » Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:42 pm #260175

Lumbermancer wrote:
Remie Richards wrote:Well we have neither of those, so.


The slippery slope begins with "buttbots".


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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby scrubs2009 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:44 pm #260177

TribeOfBeavers wrote:
AnonymousNow wrote:Do they have our weird paper-thin racial politics? Like people whose primary gimmick is running around screaming "GAS THE LIGGERS"?


They have a rule against that, actually:

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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby calzilla1 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:48 pm #260178

I'm in the goon hall of fame
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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby Qbopper » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:07 pm #260201

scrubs2009 wrote:
TribeOfBeavers wrote:
AnonymousNow wrote:Do they have our weird paper-thin racial politics? Like people whose primary gimmick is running around screaming "GAS THE LIGGERS"?


They have a rule against that, actually:

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Just yesterday I got a time out on goon for saying cuck.


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Re: Pros and cons of TG vs Goon

Postby PKPenguin321 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:55 pm #260238

Remie Richards wrote:There's nothing special about goon's sound system, it just uses the built in byond 3D sounds just like we do.
The difference comes in the fact we've capped it to SURROUND_CAP (7), so 3D sounds never leave a screen, all we have to do is change this value.

sounds like a pretty good thing to pr for april 1st
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