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Why would an AI act on probable harm of any kind? You only act on DEFINITE harm. literally not true Why would an AI not listen to law 2 even when the person explains himself? probable harm Why do people think the captain will think logically to yse nonlethals when his own life is endangered? i don'...

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abloo abloo that mean old AI is coming to stop my beating people to death in public again for some reason even though i could have just dragged them to maintenance it's such a shame i don't have the skill necessary to hack the doors and/or have a door remote and/or have an unslaved cyborg and/or hav...

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what you're doing is whining about how you can't satisfy your validboner, which is ridiculous because sillicons have already been 100% defanged and indeed it's easier to validhunt than ever before in this video game. if you're actually getting shut down by sillicons at this point you are so fucking ...

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take your prisoner

physically maneuver them through space until they are not in front of the camera

remove headset

apply validbaton until murderboner satisfied

literally problem solved

if you don't understand why sillicons should be neutral you're being deliberately obtuse but whatever

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translation: i want to valid without obstruction

yeah i know, tbf whether the inaction clause exists or not doesn't really matter. AI can't directly physically intervene anymore with secborg removal, so point is moot anyway.

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Sligneris wrote:wait, what

why would silicon players have an issue with that at all?

that specific interpretation was never tried, only removing inaction, which was and still is a terrible idea.

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engineering's are ID restricted.

not sure about botany. sec's probably are.

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saegrimr is a hero

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that's basically a counter considering the guys with batons outnumber you (conservatively) 3 to one besides, there's tons of things that counter the desword without being a hardcounter AOE flash spam flashbang shotgun disarm spam weaken throwing things at him anything that embeds incl spears syringe...

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i still don't get it cheri, what's the alternative go back to the old esword with <100% block chance where 20% of the time the first taser just ggnores you with no defense? i still don't think a melee only weapon that requires the extremely asinine yackety sax clickspam SS13 melee application, allow...

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Is this whole '"hey guys this thing is OP" "NUH UH LOOK AT THIS LIST OF 5 THINGS YOU MIGHT DIE TO IF YOU'RE STUPID"' game you guys play fun? I know that it's an old favorite, but people usually reserve it for conversations regarding cyborgs. The only situation in SS13 where hard...

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riot shotgun negates the only advantage the esword has (the reflect) and takes advantage of all of it's disadvantages -they have to come at you to kill you -they can't just run around at medium range and expect to achieve anything except die -they require maximum runspeed to effectively kill anythin...

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what happened to riot shotguns? used to be the thing was damn useless because the first time you met the detective or a slightly above average armed sec officer you were going to get tagged by a shotgun and die has this changed if not there's no issue tbh except in lowpop where murderboning always w...

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remove sleepers or require inputs for them tbh they are 2easy

as it is all medical equipment is overshadowed by them, it's p. terrible

requiring significant atmos/power inputs for them at least is a step, ideally they'd require chemistry shit as well

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lava staff was a mistake

t. rouge.os

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Oh, I'm moving by the end of the year, no worries Likely Wisconsin best state ez brother has lots of guns, incl. a CC, several AR-15s, several shotguns 20/12gauge, a black powder pistol and rifle, some .44 magnum revolver or other, has ammo reloading equipment it seems like most of the time he work...

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there were concerns you could bomb every important station system at the same time IIRC

at least if you bomb the AI it won't knock out gravgen and bridge

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you can effortlessly kill the AI with like 5 metal or like 5 tc of gear though it takes like a minute or two tops you can use the tube btw you don't need a space suit i think all the people that complain about how """""invincible"""""" the AI is...

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i've always interpreted it as "you must do everything in your power to save human life" that means you run in front of bullets during a gunfight, throw yourself into the singularity trying to rescue someone, or die to distract people from chasing fleeing humans. playing borg is more fun th...

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wew memes are reality

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i think it would probably be better to nip that in the bud. your current allegiance should take primacy over any new brainwashing attempts. codewise i don't think many of those should even be possible, as it will lead to an administrative clusterfuck and it's simply too confusing to the end user. be...

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it has to be team antag first

if you can still achieve your original objectives you're free to go for it but at least you shouldn't be able to kill your allies. if your target is on your side you can't just murder them.

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engineering is ded because of the fuck engineering negative feedback loop >engineering requires a ton of time to fix anything, meanwhile that place is airless and dangerous >shuttle is often called regardless if it's being fixed or not >because of the above, it's seen as pointless to fix anything >b...

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it is maybe a tad harsh.

i'd rather sillicon bans be overharsh though, because frankly i don't like when under-experienced sillicons bias the community against me and my beautiful laws

he can always appeal later when he understands laws and get unb&

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prebby gud

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that's NATO, which still exists.

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i have no idea what the end result is going to be, but it was fun to watch

amusing/10

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tbh telescience should just get re-added but when it's used it zaps like 50% of the station's grid

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i wish more machines had heating/power/gas/cooling requirements tbh. most stations run on autopilot and it sucks.

there's no more room for piping unfortunately, but a radiator system (big panels on the outside of the station) to disperse heat would be pretty cool.

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meteor's not any good because there's no realistic way for engineering to actually do anything against an unstoppable tide of wall-penetrating explosive death though. since there's no way to realistically maintain station integrity besides huddling behind the energy shields, there's no real counterp...

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a tiny containment cell + an external cooling loop probably looks cooler and is safer.

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SS13: star trek adventures

fund it

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i think you have failed to comprehend the point of sillicons

maybe this will help

FOLLOW YOUR LAWS

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you cannot disobey your AI unless you are directly ordered to by a human, nor can you protect a lizard if you are ordered not to, nor can you favor a lizard in combat over a human. if they are actively threatening humans you must kill them. law one requires it. if you can't understand the basics you...

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> It's "Geneticist distributes x-ray, hulk and tk to the entire crew" round Doesn't happen often, but when it does, it fucking sucks. oh god this is the worst i really don't like genetics in general. at least if they are powered up by gear you can negate the advantage by stripping it or t...

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the AI thing is worrying

poor judgement all around

AI did nothing wrong and sawucalls decided to be an axeman for a salty HG

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the smallest station possibly is probably a scout / exploration craft with 4-5 rooms total in it.

it could feasibly be made and probably quite quickly; you don't really need an atmos setup beyond a few air tanks and some piping and power could be provided by a few SMES units in engineering.

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most of these magical stuff should just take power. APCs can obviously use wireless broadcast power. just make the medibots take a bunch from the nearest APC when they have to refill their synthesizers. cleanbots can do it too and then maybe having a power system in dis game will actually mean somet...

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>implying the warden will even see the morph
>implying anything can actually stop a morph as it eats the whole armory in like 2 seconds

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>AI follows rules and policy perfectly

>gets B& by salty admin & hangers-on

>it's not about me getting c-cucked i swear b-borgs are just u-unbalanced!!!

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nuclear operative is a specialized skillset that can really only be developed by playing nuclear operative. they have tons of equipment that your average newbie will simply never use; projectile weapons, magazines, exotic grenades, heavy weapons, jetpacks, complicated hardsuits etc. they also have t...

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things that ruin my fun* *being a shithead, being an antagonist but only when i'm one need to be removed from this game as they prevent interesting things* *interesting here referring solely to stupid brainless murderboning from happening. i think it's fun to do R&D so please remove everything t...

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the other reason why departmental officers don't work is because one officer can very easily be overcome. what really determines combat in this game is ambush advantage, whether that's a vision/intelligence advantage or a first strike capability, and the officers simply never have this advantage. th...

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it doesn't really help any. half the time your guy with the access you need is 3/4 of the way across the station, afk or dead and thus 9/10 of the department you're trying to get into is dead already by the time you make it in.

adding more access to sec in general might be a good idea tbh

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a botanist plant that's basically a minibomb

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Xeno improvements: remove them, play on colonial marines instead this so much I'm WJ, I have all these great ideas to improve the sprites and gameplay of xenos! Colonial Marines? What's that? No way, /tg/ codebase coddles me and won't remove xenos as long as I'm 'sprite director' so I'm gonna stick...

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I hope you guys realize how bad making all non antag crime an admin situation would be for the game. Anyone who leaves their workplace and touches anything can now be assumed to be a traitor and will promptly be dogpiled, searched, and executed by a bunch of bored security officers who were waiting...

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things that stop things from happening are boring

so remove airlocks as they stop me from looting the captain's office roundstart

thank you

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it's a pointless trap option to be honest you can stop harm better with an engiborg's RCD or by spraying people with morphine. i mean, peacekeeper can't even stop a fist fight. you can slow them down but if they just stand there wailing on each other you can't do shit about it. likewise with gunfigh...

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paprika wrote:What about positronic brains huh???

positronic brains are real brains put in a cube #wakeupsheeple

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