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Cargo will bitch and moan about shitsec if you stop them from owning infinity nuclear weapons. Then, when you come to take them, they'll murder you and the admins will call it an IC issue. Why bother? They usually don't kill anyone anyway.

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here's a great idea: players only get to open an ahelp ticket once every three days, better wait for something serious to happen! and for admemes, an inverse ban quota: they can only note/ban x number of times every y days, so make sure it's worth it (or get another admin to use their quota when yo...

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The only difference between a lawyer and an assistant is that the lawyer can spam WGW to the entire station easier.

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We get it, you want to shit up places without repercussion. It's not going to happen. Quite the contrary. I'm very much against shitters roaming free with no recourse. I just don't see how a visual gag/infinite food for flymen is equivalent to fireaxing every window you can see. Honestly, there's m...

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Roboticists are always willing to aug you. It's a boring job if nobody asks for surgery and nobody is signing up for posi brains.

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Surgery is pretty quick when you get used to it.

BTW when you have fully auged parts you can heal yourself with a welder. It's pretty great for miners.

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Delete catgirls and give us tramp stamps instead.

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Just be careful to balance these new additions. A lot of what other people have added re: medicine/cobbychem/surgery, mining tech, robotics, etc., are based on a high passive research point gain. Miners will riot if they can't get mining tech early, and medical is handicapped by not having good surg...

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No matter what your opinion on coderbus is, felinids belong in the brapp chamber.

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This is now a "how to mess with catgirl starics" thread.

Did you know they automatically run towards laser pointer dots? If you feed them chocolate, they will get organ damage and vomit everything in their stomachs.

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In the dark, all cats are gay.

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Adherence to a non-moderated wiki page hmmm... there's precedent for pages of this kind being used to defend a ban The security policy only came up because of the conversation they had about not executing people randomly, and asking for permission first if you really want to do it. The actual defen...

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Cobby wrote:what does being spread out over several files have to do with anything?

If you read the commentary from the person who removed it, it seemed like a lot of features and dependencies were hard to locate.

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i don't even understand half of the arguments here. CC was removed because it was unmaintained and hasn't been in the game for AT LEAST over half a year. I would sorta believe the argument of It's harder to readd a mode that's fully removed, but the elephant in the room is that no one wanted to do ...

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WarbossLincoln wrote:
HommandoSA wrote:AI, law 2, make maint emergency access.

Every round, every day.
This could be solved by forcing assistants to be non humans, the second class citizens they are.

All Assistants have to be lizards.
t. Lizard player

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I've tried my best to continue the tradition but was shut down hard by nervere last year I vow to overcome and deliver an april fools that makes you wish you'd never installed BYOND I'm gonna make you people have to explain what SS13 is to your fucking therapists All normal shoes behave like clown ...

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The largest problem for clock cult was that it was a conversion mode. If it was made into reverse nuke ops it would have been much better. Coderbase-wise the largest problem was whoever made it managed to secret away bits of the code in every fucking file in the entire game. It was basically imposs...

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I have no idea why we have such different experiences then.

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Crashing after an hour might not be related to this map. I've noticed rounds on Meta and Delta also crash if they get long.

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Nobody really kills talking mimes if you talk for a good reason Yes, and nobody kills the friendly wizard either. Do you even play the same game that the rest of us do? I've been forced to talk as a mime (tortured by security) and also tried to get people robusted as a traitor with a mime target, b...

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Nobody really kills talking mimes if you talk for a good reason, but realistically why play mime if you want to talk? It's not called "Assistant Clown" or "I want to tide but in a mask," it's a mime. BTW, if a mime fights back against the lynch mob they're in the wrong. If they a...

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Let's also not forget that appeals are reviewed by the banning admin, not a headmin. An admin can permanently close an appeal on the ban they made without much recourse even if it's malicious. Though I suppose the headmins might intervene if it looks extremely bad.

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OFQ wrote:Meta meta

1. Replace this text with the best possible rule set.

This is fantastic. It's like a more hilarious version of purged, because the AI actually has to think of a lawset for itself.

Next time I get a purge board I am so doing this.

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It would be cool to have a lawset where it's like a tournament or game show with the AI as host. Like maybe Battle Royale ruleset or some kind of less-deadly meme thing.

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Truly based. Hopefully this stops sec shitters from abandoning their posts to play gimmicks with their gamer gear.

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Kryson wrote:https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/43108

Golem commander bundle

No maintainer wanted to look at it. Sad.

The fact that they openly said they wouldn't review it just to screw him is really lame.

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Just use CC assets for a Lavaland boss. Altrought having something resembling tower defense with crew having to leave the station and invade was refreshing and unlike any other mode. Too bad Invading CentCom ins't a thing. Every time we discover a new exploit to do it, it briefly becomes a thing ag...

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Fusion nerds got nae-naed, btw. Code solutions work, and they make shitters mad as fuck.

https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/47073

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I disagree with this rule extension, but I swear to fuck the next time Dornan murders the entire crew I'm going to maxcap him and you should too.

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Not only that but its incredibly visually displeasing, with damaged plates, blood stains, or oil stains every 2 tiles. I get that these are good for atmosphere and that maint isn't supposed to be a pretty or safe place, but I think to some degree it is supposed to be a fun place, which it is curren...

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My question is: If you're not going to fix it, then isn't it a feature?

The most basic ruling on whether something should or shouldn't be allowed ingame is whether or not it's going to be patched.

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Should we have specific rulings related to certain extreme sorts of bugs being used? Such as ones which result in a round crashing being done intentionally, or mass duplication in terms of items leading to a crash related to yield, or the bug directly impacting the round in an extreme which ruins t...

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What we really need is the ability for chems to actually "begome gaz xDDDD" and be filterable by atmos. Imagine being able to collect healing chem vapors to release stationwide, or make trapped oxygen tanks filled with chloral hydrate.

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IMO the rule should be that maintainers are required to comment on bug reports to decide whether they're exploits or not. Admins can rule based on that. Right now we have grey areas where major bugs exist without fixes for over a year, but are clearly not considered important enough to work on. Nobo...

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Now this is an idea that I haven't fleshed out yet, and certainly would not be able to code- What if clock cult was based off of building multi-tile clockwork machines in hidden parts of the station. The size and complexity of these machines would vary, and could function to produce constructs, con...

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wesoda25 wrote:The time jerry gave someone a water vapor miner and they froze the entire station (way after freon removal)

I remember hearing a story about a guy freezing the station by connecting distro to an array of heat exchange pipes in space. Maybe it was the same event?

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Nothing beats the old cigar dipped in plasma trick, you both kill and debrain your target if he is silly enough to smoke the cigar. sometimes i just offer cigars to people for absolutely no reason other than kindness to see how they react. usually i get stunbatonned. it's funny One time I started a...

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Cargo traitors ordering SM shards and dragging them around/wrenching them down in the halls.

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Thank fuck. Now that one Sybil admin will stop force-spawning a mode that almost nobody knows how to play.

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Good job they removed the one massive advantage sec used to have (tasers). People (as in sec players) are way too lenient with greytiders who steal sec gear. Source: I steal sec gear all the time. This led to the problem of antags just killing sec with a stolen taser and gaining a juicy loot pinata...

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It's to offset the fact that they have constant draining of blood and their unconventional way of healing. So the Vampire can either kill themselves a little bit more by the attack or not attack and stay alive longer. I have to meme myself again but I think the Vampire only drains 50ccs of blood pe...

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seiver? Simply not good enough to deal with the level of contamination we experience. This might be more an indictment of radiation as it currently stands, but Seiver will kill people with heart damage before curing them of even the average amount you'd get poisoned from approaching engineering on ...

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Will you be addressing radiation at all with these new chems?

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To my understanding, we're probably more lax now than we ever were in terms of how permissible it is to mess with other people. I can't tell if it's my rosetints or (yours) though. I think the complaint he has (and certainly the one I have) is that we're more lax on killing people but it's harder t...

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Timonk wrote:
oranges wrote:go play on bay then
Can you stop shitposting and give good feedback

You already know the answer to that question.

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Maybe when Kor was headmin and headcoder we're moving away from revival and healing being so easy though but we don't have a headmincoder to adjust the rules as fast as the code gets adjusted This. The fiction of ubiquitous cloners and sleepers to bring the dead back from the brink is vanishing pat...

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You rn:

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peoplearestrange wrote:Also make some of the roles now enjoyable and less about pot luck (shout out to genetics).

You should have seen it before Orange nerfed the genetics scanner. A competent geneticist with a pad of paper or a digital tool could sequence the whole crew's genomes by 20 minutes.

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oranges wrote:no

Based.

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